Poll: Keyless ignition or keys

[e30addict]

Love the keyless on the Chevy truck we have. The push button to lock/unlock on the handle is mint when you're doing the 1 trip grocery haul.

My one bitch about that is that my older Toyota recognizes the key and unlocks as I pull the handle. No pushing a separate button.

[BSR6]

I am completely blown away at how poorly thought out some keyless systems are. You would think they would have measures in place to mitigate such issues as a dead battery or leaving the fob behind. Based on how many stories I've heard about people being stranded, it seems many manufacturers didn't think it through.

We just bought an Acura MDX for the wife, and it seems ok but there are some issues. The second time she drove it she left the key fob in the kitchen. The dash lit up yellow when she was about halfway down the driveway, so they have that covered pretty well. Overall, her fob works great. The car locks automatically when you walk away, but not when it's in the garage (not sure how that works). When it locks you just pull the handle to unlock it. My fob is the complete opposite. When the car is in the garage, it locks as I walk away. When I'm in a parking lot, it NEVER locks so I have to push the button. I'm assuming there is a way you can set it and that mine is set backwards but I haven't looked into it yet.

For a bike, I'd rather just have a traditional key.

[Kurlon]

Love the keyless on the Chevy truck we have. The push button to lock/unlock on the handle is mint when you're doing the 1 trip grocery haul.

Yup, same on my Jeep, I didn't have it on my 2019 that I bought off the lot, made damn sure to order proximity entry when I built my 2021. Grab handle, unlocked, SWEET. On my Pan America it hasn't been an issue yet, but they are known to kill the FOB batteries if you leave them too close to the bike when not riding. I can enter a code and get running if it happens, so am not in a panic about it yet.

[Stoneman]

On my Pan America it hasn't been an issue yet, but they are known to kill the FOB batteries if you leave them too close to the bike when not riding. I can enter a code and get running if it happens, so am not in a panic about it yet.

I forgot to mention "the code" on newer HD's. If I somehow forget/lose the fob(s) or the battery in the fob dies I can enter the code via a super-secret-sequence to get the bike up & running. If you don't carry your owner's manual, you best be memorizing said super-secret-sequence...

[Stoneman]

I forgot to mention "the code" on newer HD's. If I somehow forget/lose the fob(s) or the battery in the fob dies I can enter the code via a super-secret-sequence to get the bike up & running. If you don't carry your owner's manual, you best be memorizing said super-secret-sequence...

Which actually reminds me: I HAD to learn how to enter the code last summer as the batteries on both fobs just flat out died. Mine seemed to last only a few years before I noticed something funky every once & a while when starting the bike. Keep an eye on your HD fobs, they DO like batteries...

[RandyO]

I gotta say, I like keys for vehicles ignition, I don't mind a fob to remotely lock and unlock doors

I read an article recently, NTSB is working on mandatory impairment (alcohol) devices on all new cars

https://www.npr.org/2022/09/20/11241...ol-system-ntsb

[Point37]

I gotta say, I like keys for vehicles ignition, I don't mind a fob to remotely lock and unlock doors

I read an article recently, NTSB is working on mandatory impairment (alcohol) devices on all new cars

https://www.npr.org/2022/09/20/11241...ol-system-ntsb

so you need to blow into a breathalyzer every time you want to drive/move your car?...screw that!

[Stoneman]

I gotta say, I like keys for vehicles ignition, I don't mind a fob to remotely lock and unlock doors

I read an article recently, NTSB is working on mandatory impairment (alcohol) devices on all new cars

https://www.npr.org/2022/09/20/11241...ol-system-ntsb

so you need to blow into a breathalyzer every time you want to drive/move your car?...screw that!

Have they worked out the monthly maintenance costs and who's responsible for said costs? Those have to be calibrated every like, 3 months or some shit and from what I've been told it ain't cheap!

[PinHead]

Which actually reminds me: I HAD to learn how to enter the code last summer as the batteries on both fobs just flat out died. Mine seemed to last only a few years before I noticed something funky every once & a while when starting the bike. Keep an eye on your HD fobs, they DO like batteries...

Yup! Went to go for a ride earlier this year and the damn battery in my fob was dead. Lucky I had a spare in the house and I was ash to swap out. But I really need to change the pin # on the bike, it's still set to what the factory had it at.

[RandyO]

Yup! Went to go for a ride earlier this year and the damn battery in my fob was dead. Lucky I had a spare in the house and I was ash to swap out. But I really need to change the pin # on the bike, it's still set to what the factory had it at.

hmmm, maybe not a bad idea to have a spare fob battery stashed away somewhere on the bike

[Kurlon]

hmmm, maybe not a bad idea to have a spare fob battery stashed away somewhere on the bike

Problem with these small coin cells is they self discharge pretty rapidly, so even on the shelf they can be half dead.

[Stoneman]

Problem with these small coin cells is they self discharge pretty rapidly, so even on the shelf they can be half dead.

Yup. About 3-4 years for both of mine to need new juice cells. One of them basically just hangs on the key hook in the house, but they both discharged about the same time.

[PinHead]

Yup. About 3-4 years for both of mine to need new juice cells. One of them basically just hangs on the key hook in the house, but they both discharged about the same time.

That reminds me, I better change my spare key battery too!

[ducatirdr]

The comment on the spare fob.... Harley - Kawi and BMW only gave me one fob per bike. If I wanted a spare I had to order it myself. The Harley was $$$ and the Kawi and BMW were insanely expensive. Still only one fob/key.

[feralchimp]

Fobs have no upsides and a bunch of additional downsides ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Stoneman]

The comment on the spare fob.... Harley - Kawi and BMW only gave me one fob per bike. If I wanted a spare I had to order it myself. The Harley was $$$ and the Kawi and BMW were insanely expensive. Still only one fob/key.

One fob for a brand new bike???

[RandyO]

The comment on the spare fob.... Harley - Kawi and BMW only gave me one fob per bike. If I wanted a spare I had to order it myself. The Harley was $$$ and the Kawi and BMW were insanely expensive. Still only one fob/key.

I got 2 with my Kymco

[Kurlon]

One fob for a brand new bike???

HD started doing that last year, possibly in 2021?

[Stoneman]

One fob for a brand new bike???

HD started doing that last year, possibly in 2021?

No shit? The fuck is THAT all about?

[Kurlon]

No shit? The fuck is THAT all about?

"Supply chain issues" aka "We're cheaping out without saying we are."

[ducatirdr]

My BMW 1250RT one fob. My Kawi H2 SX/SE 1 fob. It's looking like its the new order of things.

[OneCheekRider]

I have never used the 2nd fob that I got with my Jeep. It does, however, give me great peace of mind knowing it's there.

[Stoneman]

I wouldn't buy a vehicle that didn't come with two sets of fobs/keys. Well, until it's the norm across the board I guess...