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    power commander (used)

    Is it ok to buy a PC3 used that has already been on someone elses bike? i know the programmer for my truck it logs the VIN and once you plug it in, its "locked" to that vehical, and unless you restore the stock tune to the truck it wont work on another vehical. Is it the same for the PC3?

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    Re: power commander (used)

    I've been shopping on eBay for a used PC3 for my GSX-R. Good question.

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    Re: power commander (used)

    no, the PC3 doesn't care if it goes from one bike to the next ... but they are built bike specific (mostly wiring harness I believe)

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    Re: power commander (used)

    alright, cool. Also does the PC3 need to be stock tune first before it can be installed? Ex. PC3 has custom map on it, can i just install it and be fine? reason i ask is, the guy is selling his exhaust and has a PC3 with a custom tune for that exhaust so i want to buy it as a package deal.

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    Re: power commander (used)

    Quote Originally Posted by catch2otwo View Post
    alright, cool. Also does the PC3 need to be stock tune first before it can be installed? Ex. PC3 has custom map on it, can i just install it and be fine? reason i ask is, the guy is selling his exhaust and has a PC3 with a custom tune for that exhaust so i want to buy it as a package deal.
    Yep, the tune 'should' stay with it. You should always keep a backup of the tune file on CD anyway. The power commander can be reset sometimes (voltage spike etc). Ask him for a copy of the tune file on CD or at least back it up as soon as you get the PC3

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    Re: power commander (used)

    most maps are free downloads on dynojet's website, unless you need a custom map

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    Re: power commander (used)

    Sax is right... you should check about the harness.
    You could waste alot of time trying to jury rig it
    when it might be better to spend the extra money to get the right one.

    About the maps...
    What you do is have the unit zero-ed out before you
    start it up the first time.

    The zero map is essentially the bike with stock settings.
    You will need a Windoze PC with Power Commander Software and
    the USB cable that comes with the unit.
    From there you can download various maps and
    upload them to your PC3. Or get it custom mapped.

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    Re: power commander (used)

    Quote Originally Posted by DBConz View Post
    most maps are free downloads on dynojet's website, unless you need a custom map
    Yes, but the free ones are written for the average motor for that bike in the average conditions and take no account of altitude, average air temperature, fuel etc etc. You are always best getting a custom tune.

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    Re: power commander (used)

    thanks for the info. His bike and my bike are the same in terms of year, make model, and motor mods. ill hit him up when he posts stuff for sale. one more thing, when i buy his PC3, it should come with software and the usb cable? is that all i need to work this (software, PC3 itself, and usb cable?)

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    Re: power commander (used)

    software is a free download, and it's a standard mini USB cable. i had to map my friend's bike over the summer. it's pretty easy

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    Re: power commander (used)

    cool. im glad its that easy

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    Re: power commander (used)

    It's best if you have a laptop you can bring over to the bike. There is a way to run the software from a palm though I believe.

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    Re: power commander (used)

    Quote Originally Posted by Degsy View Post
    It's best if you have a laptop you can bring over to the bike
    that's how i mapped by friend's 03 CBR RR

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    Re: power commander (used)

    i think my laptop would explode if i tried to get it to do anything other then internet and solitaire

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    Re: power commander (used)

    you'd be surprised. i used my PIII 600MHz laptop, and it ran fine. maps are like 200kb i think. the DynoJet app is around 40MB to download, but you could download it to a USB stick then install on your laptop.

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    Re: power commander (used)

    ill have to give it a shot. do you need the lap top or can the stuff be done on a reg pc desktop?

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    Re: power commander (used)

    the app and the map need to be on the laptop to send the map to the PC3.

    now just look for a PC3 USB for a 02 GSX-R 600 :

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    Re: power commander (used)

    Quote Originally Posted by catch2otwo View Post
    ill have to give it a shot. do you need the lap top or can the stuff be done on a reg pc desktop?
    It can be done with a PC but you'll have to lug the hard drive out to the PCIII to load the maps, hence the laptop.

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    Re: power commander (used)

    i see, guess ill try the laptop first

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    if you want i have a old laptop you can use for this only thing it does not have is a cd port drive

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    Re: power commander (used)

    thanks weman, but i got a laptop. just not in the best of shape but will probably work.

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    Re: power commander (used)

    Talk to TLRman. He's got a computer in his brother's garage that he uses to tune people's PC's for them. And with rte 128 RIGHT THERE, he's got a nice little "drag strip" to test it on, too

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    Re: power commander (used)

    thanks for the tip, ill hit him up if i end up buying this stuff

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    Re: power commander (used)

    Quote Originally Posted by OreoGitorio View Post
    Talk to TLRman. He's got a computer in his brother's garage that he uses to tune people's PC's for them. And with rte 128 RIGHT THERE, he's got a nice little "drag strip" to test it on, too
    hmmm, i've been shopping for a PC3, and i will definitely need a custom map since my exhaust wasnt made for my bike. thanks pete

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