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    Re: Wicked SuperMoto riding

    That track looks fun! Gotta love backing it in while dragging elbow.

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    that's how Denno rides at NHMS

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    Shee-it, DB could do that stuff on my Concours. *I* couldn't but..

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    How the hell do they back it in so severely? Early on the throttle?

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    That track looks simply amazing

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    Quote Originally Posted by 07BladeRider View Post
    How the hell do they back it in so severely? Early on the throttle?
    You don't use the throttle to make the bike slide when backing it in. You use the rear brake and downshifts (and of course front brake).


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    Quote Originally Posted by a13x View Post
    You don't use the throttle to make the bike slide when backing it in. You use the rear brake and downshifts (and of course front brake).
    Damn, does this mean that if I want to race, I need to learn to use my rear brake? I rarely ever use it on the track.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 07BladeRider View Post
    Damn, does this mean that if I want to race, I need to learn to use my rear brake? I rarely ever use it on the track.
    Only if you want to drift the SV sideways into T3...back it in like Rossi!

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    Re: Wicked SuperMoto riding

    Love me some good backen it in skills especially with foot on technique, which is said to be much easier than foot out.

    Quote Originally Posted by a13x View Post
    You don't use the throttle to make the bike slide when backing it in. You use the rear brake and downshifts (and of course front brake).
    Actually, using the back brake to initiate the slide is a big NO NO!
    It's the same principal for any bike, lock the wheel and you're heading for trouble.


    The key ingredients are, slipper clutch, front brake and tip in.

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    Re: Wicked SuperMoto riding

    Quote Originally Posted by 07BladeRider View Post
    Damn, does this mean that if I want to race, I need to learn to use my rear brake? I rarely ever use it on the track.
    some of the top pros still don't use it. others do. really depends on your comfort level with it.

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    Re: Wicked SuperMoto riding

    Quote Originally Posted by Pestilence View Post
    Actually, using the back brake to initiate the slide is a big NO NO!

    It's the same principal for any bike, lock the wheel and you're heading for trouble.


    The key ingredients are, slipper clutch, front brake and tip in.
    Who said anything about locking the rear wheel? The fact is you DO use the rear brake when backing a motard in. Backing it in is achieved when the rear wheel is rotating at a slower rate of speed than the front causing the rear to 'come around' or 'back in' to the corner. Using the rear brake to lower the rear wheels rate of spin even more, in turn producing a bigger slide, is a key part in epic slides into the turn. It is 100% possible to back a bike in without the rear brake, however the big nasty awesome slides you see are not possible 99.9% of the time without it as the rear wheel just doesn't slow down enough to get it out that far.

    Obviously locking up the rear wheel is not 'backing it in'. That's just doing a skid, which we all did when we were 6 years old.

    Also the theory that you need a slipper clutch to back it in is completely false. A slipper clutch merely makes it easier to 'back it in' as the rear wheel isn't as prone to hop and skip as the bike slides in, making the slide 10x's easier. When you don't have a slipper clutch you have to use the clutch lever to manually manipulate the transmission/rear wheel and keep the hopping under control. Ask me how I know this....

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    That video is great !

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    Re: Wicked SuperMoto riding

    How are you able to spin the back tire with a slipper clutch.? I was under the impression they were supposed to prevent the rear tire from breaking loose during a hard downshift.

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    Quote Originally Posted by obsolete View Post
    How are you able to spin the back tire with a slipper clutch.? I was under the impression they were supposed to prevent the rear tire from breaking loose during a hard downshift.
    just how it sounds, it lets it slip. Rather than a regular basket that if I dump my clutch the rear wheel wants to lock up/hop.

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    Re: Wicked SuperMoto riding

    The tire isn't hopping, but it is spinning as it slows down. You bang down to 1st gear approaching the turn. With a slipper clutch, the clutch itself will control the rate at which the wheel slows down (it's always spinning, otherwise it'd be locked up and skidding), whereas without a slipper you must modulate all of this with the clutch lever.... either way, picture the rear wheel (as controlled by being linked to the engine / gearbox) is all of the sudden trying to spin with 1st gear, as your entering the turn at 4th gear speeds and slowly slowing down. Instead of going 1 gear at a time as you may see as normal, you bang down all the gears and let the clutch out, modulating it (letting it slip) as the bike slows down to approach the 1st gear speed the corner dictates.

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