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    Re: Quick experiment...

    I have some friends that went to Gary Bailey MX school in the 80s. He would stand in a corner with a stick held at an angle. You had to go by the stick at the correct angle. Right or Left if you got it wrong he hit you with it. I guess they find no difference turning right or left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SRTie4k View Post
    Are you seriously attributing leaning a motorcycle over to the Coriolis Effect?
    Practically everyone in the world is naturally more comfortable spinning one direction over the other. I think, more than anything else, that has to do with one's spatial orientation and equilibrium, which is largely driven by FLUID in the inner ear... Now although there are plenty of exceptions, from what I've seen/heard, most people around here are more often than not more comfortable turning/spinning to the left than to the right.

    I don't live in the S. hemisphere... I don't know anyone FROM the S. hemisphere... so a small part of me wonders if it would be reversed in the S. hemisphere. To completely scoff at the possibility and turn your nose up at it without even asking the question would be ignorant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scootertrash View Post
    Confirmed. I am more comfortable left in both cases.

    Aye. I'm a lefty too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OreoGaborio View Post
    Practically everyone in the world is naturally more comfortable spinning one direction over the other. I think, more than anything else, that has to do with one's spatial orientation and equilibrium, which is largely driven by FLUID in the inner ear... Now although there are plenty of exceptions, from what I've seen/heard, most people around here are more often than not more comfortable turning/spinning to the left than to the right.

    I don't live in the S. hemisphere... I don't know anyone FROM the S. hemisphere... so a small part of me wonders if it would be reversed in the S. hemisphere. To completely scoff at the possibility and turn your nose up at it without even asking the question would be ignorant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OreoGaborio View Post
    Practically everyone in the world is naturally more comfortable spinning one direction over the other. I think, more than anything else, that has to do with one's spatial orientation and equilibrium, which is largely driven by FLUID in the inner ear... Now although there are plenty of exceptions, from what I've seen/heard, most people around here are more often than not more comfortable turning/spinning to the left than to the right.

    I don't live in the S. hemisphere... I don't know anyone FROM the S. hemisphere... so a small part of me wonders if it would be reversed in the S. hemisphere. To completely scoff at the possibility and turn your nose up at it without even asking the question would be ignorant.
    http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/1...3#.UtiTshCwJSQ

    Incredibly someone actually did a study on exactly this. Unfortunately your hypothesis was ruled out.

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    Really interesting thread. My first reaction was that I'm equally comfortable turning in either direction on a motorcycle. But then I started thinking about snowboarding, and how when I was learning to ride I initially found turning left (heelside turns) easier. But over the years, as I realized I didn't give a shit about getting air but loved going fast and carving turns, I switched to an alpine setup -- hardboots and long, skinny race board with high stance angles, and therefore a very different riding technique from a freeride board (hips and shoulders always facing the nose of the board). By this point I was equally comfortable with both heelside and toeside turns, and the race stance reinforced this. I wouldn't be at all surprised if that's what made me equally comfortable turning a motorcycle in either direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SRTie4k View Post
    http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/1...3#.UtiTshCwJSQ
    Incredibly someone actually did a study on exactly this. Unfortunately your hypothesis was ruled out.
    So then I guess it's not such a stupid fuckin question to ask then, is it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OreoGaborio View Post
    So then I guess it's not such a stupid fuckin question to ask then, is it?
    Well if you're going to act like a douche about it, then yes it was a stupid fuckin question. You're welcome for the answer, jackass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SRTie4k View Post
    Are you seriously attributing leaning a motorcycle over to the Coriolis Effect?
    said the man who doesnt believe in dinosaurs.


    I can jump either way just as badly, pete.
    Left turns are better for me than right.

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    I'm offended that this test limits me to two choices...

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    Re: Quick experiment...

    Left And I'm left handed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Degsy View Post
    said the man who doesnt believe in dinosaurs.
    That's news to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DucDave View Post
    I'm offended that this test limits me to two choices...
    Backflip?

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    Beet is naked...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SRTie4k View Post
    Well if you're going to act like a douche about it, then yes it was a stupid fuckin question. You're welcome for the answer, jackass.
    Really?

    Quote Originally Posted by SRTie4k View Post
    Are you seriously attributing leaning a motorcycle over to the Coriolis Effect?
    In this post you deliberately misinterpreted what I was saying and repeated them back to me in the most retarded way you could in a lame attempt to make fun of it. I kept my cool and clarified, then you post up someone who researched what I was curious about. I point out the irony & the fact that maybe it isn't such a stupid question as you insinuated and you call ME the douche?

    Well on the bright side, if I'm a douche then I guess you & I should get along great since you're the one with sandy panties crammed all up in your vagina.

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    Maybe left vs right turning has to do with SVS (Sandy Vag Syndrome).

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    Quote Originally Posted by OreoGaborio View Post
    In this post you deliberately twisted what I was saying and repeated them back to me in the most retarded way you could in a lame attempt to make fun of it. I kept my cool and clarified, then you post up someone who researched the exact scenario that I was curious about. I point out the irony & the fact that maybe it isn't such a stupid question as you insinuated and you call ME the douche?

    Alrighty then, well if I'm a douche then I guess you & I should get along great since you're the one with sandy panties crammed all up in your vagina.
    First of all, I wasn't twisting anything. You were trying to associate leaning on a bike to which way one prefer's to rotate, then go on to speculate that it might have to do with which hemisphere one is in. Which means you are questioning whether leaning on a motorycle is affected by the coriolis effect, which is exactly what I asked.

    Second, I thought that maybe you were joking. It seems like a huge leap to attribute a person's preference for turning to the rotation of the Earth. Thus I asked if you were serious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OreoGaborio View Post
    get off your ass and walk to the middle of the room... now jump up in the air and spin around. Now do it again but spin the other way.
    I didn't read the first step. My attorney will be contacting you.
    I spun to the left, am left handed, and kinda froze up when I tried the right spin. It was reminiscent of when you first ride a motorcycle and don't know countersteering, everything's cool until you get frightened and revert to turning the bars the same direction you want to go. They're stuck! I had to think about it before getting the right spin done. Rights on the track were more difficult at first. Seems all the same now. Is this a political question?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SRTie4k View Post
    First of all, I wasn't twisting anything. You were trying to associate leaning on a bike to which way one prefer's to rotate, then go on to speculate that it might have to do with which hemisphere one is in. Which means you are questioning whether leaning on a motorycle is affected by the coriolis effect, which is exactly what I asked.

    Second, I thought that maybe you were joking. It seems like a huge leap to attribute a person's preference for turning to the rotation of the Earth. Thus I asked if you were serious.
    And I'm just saying that maybe it's not such a stupid fuckin question.

    If you don't ask questions you may never get the answers.

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    This can also be applied to skateboarding. Some feel more comfortable pushing with their left foot, some with their right. Some feel more comfortable with the non-pushing foot at the front of the board, some at the back.

    There's a also a technique known as skogging, for those who feel comfortable pushing equally with both feet.

    BTW, I'm left-handed, feel more comfortable making left-handed turns (both street and track) and feel more comfortable riding a track counter-clockwise, rather than clockwise. For the jumping scenario, I feel more comfortable twisting left than right.

    For other sports, I ride a snowboard regular (left-foot forward) and a longboard the same left-foot forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DucDave View Post
    I'm offended that this test limits me to two choices...
    It's all about Degrees of Freedom.

    Look up "Cross Dominance." If you lean forward until you put one leg out to support yourself, that leg is your dominant leg. If you make a small hole in a piece of paper, focus on a distant object and move the paper closer to your face until you can see the object that eye is your dominant eye. Most people write with their dominant hand.

    Some people are "cross dominant." Because the right side of your brain controls the left side of your body and vice versa, there are some interesting differences. Many left-handed people are cross dominant, making us even more awesome and interesting.

    People who are cross dominant are not regulated to just favoring sides in their hands. Cross dominant individuals can also prefer to use their opposite eyes, feet and ears for certain things. For example, a right-handed person can prefer to kick with his or her left foot.

    Problems can be experienced when a cross dominant person feels that he or she is stronger on the non-dominant side of his or her body. This can lead to perception challenges, clumsiness and maybe even problems balancing. Aiming abilities can also suffer.

    Despite the potentiality for problems caused by cross dominance, it is a relatively normal phenomenon. Some sources say that cross dominance can occur in about one-fifth of the population. To be sure, if individuals find their cross dominance to be frustrating, they can train themselves to become comfortable with the use of their non-dominant side by doing special exercises.

    These types of exercises might do more than just make some people comfortable using both sides of their body. Some research has suggested that people with ear-hand cross dominance can have trouble with math and even have problems with their long-term memory. Learning how to use both sides of the body might improve performance in these areas, which can be a welcome benefit of trying to balance out cross dominance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garandman View Post
    Some people are "cross dominant." Because the right side of your brain controls the left side of your body and vice versa, there are some interesting differences. Many left-handed people are cross dominant, making us even more awesome and interesting.
    I am not left-handed, but I am cross-dominant (I learned as a kid in soccer and gymnastics that I am "left-footed") - I wonder if that contributes to the jumping and spinning thing.

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    Are there more left-handed cross-dominant people than right-handed?

    I'm cross-dominant in some respects. All of the swinging sports (golf, hockey, baseball) I swing the club, stick, or bat right-handed, but I throw left-handed.

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    Is it not an eye dominance left brain right brain thing. When you are a righty your right hand right foot are doing most of the work in a turn, yes?

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