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    Race prep.


    Hey guys.
    Me and my buddy are getting into racing. He is looking for a guy that can do the safety wire on the bolts local to the Springfield area. Dose anyone know of a place that dose a good job?

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    Re: Race prep.

    It's a rite of passage to wire your own machine.

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    Buy one of these: Amazon.com: Allstar ALL10122 Safety Wire Drill Fixture: Automotive

    Makes the drilling a bit easier.

    Or if you have $$ to throw at it, go to probolt and buy pre-drilled Ti bolts and be done with it.

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    Re: Race prep.

    Get plenty of drill bits. 10 or so is a good place to start. Personally I did it all by hand on a few bikes with a corded drill and a spring punch. What type of bike is it?

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    Re: Race prep.

    You mentioned "racing" in your other thread too... since you said you were looking to "advance your skills and get on track", I'm assuming/hoping you mean "track days" not "racing". In this case, then safety wiring your bike is not necessary, just properly torque/loctite fasteners where needed.

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    Re: Race prep.

    he has a 2014 daytona 675

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    Re: Race prep.

    Quote Originally Posted by MattR302 View Post
    You mentioned "racing" in your other thread too... since you said you were looking to "advance your skills and get on track", I'm assuming/hoping you mean "track days" not "racing". In this case, then safety wiring your bike is not necessary, just properly torque/loctite fasteners where needed.
    no i mean racing. i wish to get into racing.

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    Re: Race prep.

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnpewpew View Post
    no i mean racing. i wish to get into racing.
    While it's not a requirement to do so, it's generally a very, very, very smart idea to do at least track day or three first to learn the ropes and work on technique without the pressure of competition tempting you to ride over your head (not that track day enthusiasts aren't competitive in their own right...)

    Just a word to the wise... Your choice, though.

    But I digress... You didn't start this thread to talk about that.

    I'm with Paul... it's a right of passage. Buy a couple dozen drill bits & get to work.

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    Re: Race prep.

    Quote Originally Posted by OreoGaborio View Post
    I'm with Paul... it's a right of passage. Buy a couple dozen drill bits & get to work.
    And plenty of lube :

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    Drilling your own bolts and lock wiring is a pain but well worth the time to do it yourself. take your time and go slow use oil and back the bits out a few times when drilling to clear the hole and see how your doing, Bits tend to break if you push to fast.. buy good quality bits and at least a dozen or so I always mark the bolts before I take them out to get the holes in the right spot. Sometimes you can drill the bolts on the bike but that's the advanced class.. good luck

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    Re: Race prep.

    Quote Originally Posted by OreoGaborio View Post
    While it's not a requirement to do so, it's generally a very, very, very smart idea to do at least track day or three first to learn the ropes and work on technique without the pressure of competition tempting you to ride over your head (not that track day enthusiasts aren't competitive in their own right...)

    Just a word to the wise... Your choice, though.

    But I digress... You didn't start this thread to talk about that.

    I'm with Paul... it's a right of passage. Buy a couple dozen drill bits & get to work.
    you are right. i plan to go penguin to get the license and go from there. i well mot than confident in my own ability to drill the bolt. i used to have to do this at my last job. my buddy who has the 675 dose not want to drill the holes.

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    Okay. Just so your expectations are in line w/ what they offer, the Penguin School Basic License Certification class gets you that license, but primarily teaches you the rules, regs and procedures of racing... it's for those that already have the ability to participate in racer practice days, not so much a riding technique and racing line class. They do have track days where they go over that (Track Experience and the Advanced Course), but the Basic License class isn't the same thing.

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    Re: Race prep.

    Get some safety wire pliers and wire. Buy pre-drilled bolts from pro-bolt ( I'm pretty sure kurveygirl.com also has them) and save time on drilling bolts. Easy as pie.

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    Re: Race prep.

    Quote Originally Posted by OreoGaborio View Post
    Okay. Just so your expectations are in line w/ what they offer, the Penguin School Basic License Certification class gets you that license, but primarily teaches you the rules, regs and procedures of racing... it's for those that already have the ability to participate in racer practice days, not so much a riding technique and racing line class. They do have track days where they go over that (Track Experience and the Advanced Course), but the Basic License class isn't the same thing.
    ya i plan to take the class and go from there. im also not new to riding. iv been ridding for the past 10 years. me and my buddy have always talked about racing and after watching the LRRS
    this weekend we want to race.

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    Well it ain't a bad time

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    Re: Race prep.

    definitely cheaper to buy bolts drilled than to pay someone to do it. It takes hours.

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    Re: Race prep.

    Quote Originally Posted by OreoGaborio View Post
    Okay. Just so your expectations are in line w/ what they offer, the Penguin School Basic License Certification class gets you that license, but primarily teaches you the rules, regs and procedures of racing... it's for those that already have the ability to participate in racer practice days, not so much a riding technique and racing line class. They do have track days where they go over that (Track Experience and the Advanced Course), but the Basic License class isn't the same thing.
    Listen to this man. He knows his way around nhms.

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    Drilling your own bolts is 100% a right of passage into racing and i agree its something you should do yourself. If anything it will give you appreciation for working on your own bike, which if you race you will be doing alot of. You should know your bike inside and out. If anything your putting you life out there and you should know what your riding. That being said i very very much implore you to do afew track days. I was just talking to someone that doesnt race last weekend at round 4 and was trying to explain how when your out there how truly different it is to what you are watching. You have experience and that is good but you dont have track experience and thats a totally different animal. You may jump out there and be lightening but you most likely will go out there and come back in alittle more humbled by what you just experianced. And then you find out how fast you were just going and if you were like many of us you will have a new respect for what the fast guys are doing out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnpewpew View Post
    ya i plan to take the class and go from there. im also not new to riding. iv been ridding for the past 10 years. me and my buddy have always talked about racing and after watching the LRRS
    this weekend we want to race.
    homeslice, I know you are not new to "ridding" but racing is a whole another thing brah. I am a world trackday champion and have done about 75 track days. Yet even I will tell you that racing is a whole another thing. No amount of track days will teach you how to pass, or how not to freak out when you get buzzed by experts with high closing speeds. Street riding experience is almost completely irrelevant to racing.

    You are not asking for advice but I will give it to you anyway. Do a few track days, work your way up to the expert group, then go into racing if you are still into it.

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    Meh. I never did track days before I raced. To each their own.

    I also crashed...a lot... So keep that in mind too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by csmutty View Post
    Meh. I never did track days before I raced. To each their own.

    I also crashed...a lot...
    No shit. Hopefully you didn't take out others while you were crashing at race pace.

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    I assumed you had already done trackdays. Some people can jump right into racing, and power to them, or you, who have that ability. I went quick from the beginning when I started riding on the track, I also crashed, a lot. If I took it more easy then, I don't think I would be any worse off now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xxaarraa View Post
    No shit. Hopefully you didn't take out others while you were crashing at race pace.
    Just took your mom out after I crashed at her place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by csmutty View Post
    Just took your mom out after I crashed at her place.
    geez take it easy bro.

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    Re: Race prep.

    You're going to get LOTS of advice on when it's time to race vs not. Short answer, you're the only one who can decide that. Racing vs track days involves a big step up in aggression as well as close quarters riding and adjusting your crash avoidance toolset to contain more than just a panic brake stab. Track days get you seat time on the track, working the line, but really only racing will prep you for the times on the track where you're not just on your own with no traffic or anyone contesting your spot. If you've raced other formats this will all be familiar; if not, if your confident in your riding skill set when under pressure, jump into the pool when ready.

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