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Another rider gone.....RIP

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    Another rider gone.....RIP

    There was a brutal accident tonight on Route 9 in Spencer (MA). The kid was only 23 years old, so sad..... RIP

    Motorcyclist killed in Route 9 accident in Spencer - Worcester Telegram & Gazette - telegram.com

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    Sucks. So close too :/

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    Re: Another rider gone.....RIP

    Quote Originally Posted by tsorfas View Post
    Sucks. So close too :/
    Yeah, so close. I wouldn't be surprised at all if someone from NESR knew him. God, what a tragedy.

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    Re: Another rider gone.....RIP

    The media will be all over this. Another reckless motorcycle rider near a school. Tragic all the same.

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    Re: Another rider gone.....RIP

    Track days ftw.

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    Re: Another rider gone.....RIP

    And yet another left turner ...

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    Re: Another rider gone.....RIP

    Quote Originally Posted by South of Heaven View Post
    I wouldn't be surprised at all if someone from NESR knew him.
    I would be.

    There are 500,000+ registered motorcycles between NH and MA and maybe 200 consistently active members on the forum.


    As far as the left turning car comment, the article states the kid was passing cars in no passing zones. I'll go out on a limb and say the driver of the car wasn't expecting a motorcycle in their lane.

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    Re: Another rider gone.....RIP

    Ok the young man was passing cars in a no passing zone directly in front of a school. The driver turning left had NO reason to be looking for a bike coming their way. Clearly the road wasn't clear to pass. The rider was splitting lanes against oncoming traffic ( my opinion based on the picture and Google maps image). I do not put any blame on the motorist here. The rider rolled the dice and it cost him. Had he stayed in his lane we wouldn't be talking about him in the past tense. I am not from the area but looking at Google maps it's easy to see that this was not the place to pass any cars.

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    Re: Another rider gone.....RIP

    We gonna monday morning quarterback this all day?

    Articles like this usually do a shitty job of explaining what actually happened and typically gear it towards the "it was the motorcyclists fault he got killed". It doesn't specify whether or not he was in the act of passing in a no passing zone at the time of the crash or in the school zone. Maybe he was, maybe he wasn't... Maybe he was riding like a complete asshole 5 seconds before but slowed down, maybe he didn't.

    And this is why I don't like these kinds of threads.

    A life was lost. I wasn't there. Therefore I'm not gonna judge.

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    Re: Another rider gone.....RIP

    Quote Originally Posted by OreoGaborio View Post
    We gonna monday morning quarterback this all day?
    Nope.

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    Word. I hope not.

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    Re: Another rider gone.....RIP

    I wasn't going to do the Monday morning quarterback thing until someone blamed the motorist. You're right, we weren't there, we don't know for sure what happened. And the big issue here is that a life was cut short.

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    Re: Another rider gone.....RIP

    Quote Originally Posted by sedanman View Post
    I wasn't going to do the Monday morning quarterback thing until someone blamed the motorist. You're right, we weren't there, we don't know for sure what happened. And the big issue here is that a life was cut short.
    I know, don't sweat it. I'm not pointing fingers at any one person... I've just been on here long enough to know what these threads always turn into and I regret that I've been there to help turn them into it.

    Now it's just a pet peeve... strikes a nerve.

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    I apologize for my comments regarding the accident. I dont usually feed into news stories like that and I'm not sure why I decided to post anything in the first place

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    Re: Another rider gone.....RIP

    Man, I used to work in the building directly next to that school, it used to be Ragsdale chevy. I hated pulling out of there everyday. There was always lots of traffic and many speeders regularly. On average over the 3-4 years I worked there there was an accident about once a month along that half mile or so and a lot of them were pretty serious, life flight used prouty high school field on more then one occasion.

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    Re: Another rider gone.....RIP

    Quote Originally Posted by OreoGaborio View Post
    We gonna monday morning quarterback this all day?
    Maybe tomorrow morning.

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    Re: Another rider gone.....RIP

    My cousin's brother in law. My Mom just called me. My cousin's wife is taking it hard. Her younger brother.

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    Re: Another rider gone.....RIP

    Quote Originally Posted by Rambunctous View Post
    My cousin's brother in law. My Mom just called me. My cousin's wife is taking it hard. Her younger brother.
    I'm really sorry man.

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    Re: Another rider gone.....RIP

    Quote Originally Posted by Rambunctous View Post
    My cousin's brother in law. My Mom just called me. My cousin's wife is taking it hard. Her younger brother.
    Very sorry to hear.

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    Re: Another rider gone.....RIP

    I only met him at their wedding and at a recent cookout. Thanks for your concern though.

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    Re: Another rider gone.....RIP

    Well I'm no accident reconstruction engineer but the story and the scene don't really jibe.

    There is a single skid mark right up to the impact point, sure looks to be front wheel lockup. It is about 15 feet long. It is most definitely in the middle of the eastbound travel lane and not in the middle of the road where it would be if he was passing.

    From what I see, it was a classic left turn in front of bike crash. What he may have been doing in the short time before the crash is debatable. The MA State Police accident reconstruction team should be non-biased....but I sincerely doubt it. There is a legal passing zone just 2/10's of a mile west of where this happened, yet reports are he was passing in a no passing zone. I tend to question that. Those reports of him passing play into possibly tainting the outcome of the investigation.

    If the driver of the car that turned left on front of him is cited or not remains to be determined. If she is or isn't has no effect on that he is dead. And that really sucks.

    May he rest in peace.

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    RIP

    I was thinking about this yesterday while out with my 16 y/o son who has his learner's permit. He was driving and I always remind him at intersection and lights and other danger spots that we have the right of way AND he should be alert to the possibility that someone else will do something wrong and HE has to be ready to avoid them.

    I'm not Monday morning quarterbacking this, but the reality I'm teaching him is x100 on a motorcycle.

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    Re: Another rider gone.....RIP

    Scary and sad.
    This article is really skewed from the start. And I agree with Sprint, looks like this occurred in the middle of the MC's travel lane, why was the car there?? Excessive speed is the only reason I could see for MC at fault, but too many unanswered questions.
    Thoughts out to the rider's family. Sad....

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    Re: Another rider gone.....RIP

    Quote Originally Posted by sedanman View Post
    Ok the young man was passing cars in a no passing zone directly in front of a school. The driver turning left had NO reason to be looking for a bike coming their way. Clearly the road wasn't clear to pass. The rider was splitting lanes against oncoming traffic ( my opinion based on the picture and Google maps image). I do not put any blame on the motorist here. The rider rolled the dice and it cost him. Had he stayed in his lane we wouldn't be talking about him in the past tense. I am not from the area but looking at Google maps it's easy to see that this was not the place to pass any cars.
    Car drivers should always be looking out for bikes, pedestrians, animals, children etc. Whether they "should" be there at the time is not relevant.

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