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School me: Triumph Tiger Explorer, and comp

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    Re: School me: Triumph Tiger Explorer, and comp


    Weird I just assumed the Honda was an I4, didn’t realize it was a parallel twin

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    Re: School me: Triumph Tiger Explorer, and comp

    School me: Triumph Tiger Explorer, and comp-8684ebb1-4f46-4393-8825-d3124c16aeb2

    Just 84 hp at a sky high 8500rpm

    A weak 60 ft lbs at another high 6500rpm, which almost makes it seem like anti-torque numbers (torque typically is low end, no?

    So, 20 hp shy and 20 ‘ lbs more than a 15yo gixxer sixxer..

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    Re: School me: Triumph Tiger Explorer, and comp

    The original Africa Twin was a v-twin, modeled after a dakar race bike. The newest versions are a parallel twin.
    Parallel twins are quite ubiquitous in this class now as they can be made compact, light and cheap.

    To my knowledge the only I4 "adventure" styled bikes are the Kawi Versys 1k and the BMW S1000XR. Although those are both much more on the sport-touring end of the spectrum.

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    Re: School me: Triumph Tiger Explorer, and comp

    I haven't ridden an 850 triple. But I rented a Tiger 800 for a week out in California not long after they came out. The engine has a flat as a frying pan torque curve. It doesn't have the mountain of torque off the line nor the turbo-boost when you ring it out. It is just always ready to go. It is a lot like the GL1800 in that respect.

    Also the motor noise is distinctive. It has a whir like something out of the jetsons. I found it pretty soulless.

    I expected to fall utterly in love with the Tiger 800 "roadie" when I rented it in CA. I didn't. I can't tell you exactly why, but was just disappointed in it given the price tag. I think I just don't like triples much. YMMV, obviously.
    I never had the opportunity, but I think I'd like a XC version with the 21" front more.

    None of these bikes are very lightweight.

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    Re: School me: Triumph Tiger Explorer, and comp

    I am so confused by adventure bikes with side cases.

    It looks like either the passenger can’t ride, or the passenger can barely get their heel on their pegs, which would make their toes interfere with your legs and your pegs?!?

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    Re: School me: Triumph Tiger Explorer, and comp

    You could probably set up some bags to interfere like that if you tried. But it would be unusually forward. Most setups don’t have a problem. I wonder. You may run into cornering clearance issues if that far forward too.

    It is no different than a bagger really similar geometry.

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    Re: School me: Triumph Tiger Explorer, and comp

    No complaints on a 2-up trip into Mexico with side cases. We also took the Tiger on our last wine tasting adventure because she wanted to ride but also wanted to bring a case of wine back.

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    Re: School me: Triumph Tiger Explorer, and comp

    Anyone have any time on a Guzzi?

    The stelvio... that sideways mounted V twin, is that extra heat right in front of your knees?

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    Re: School me: Triumph Tiger Explorer, and comp

    There is a well-equipped 2012 Tiger 1050 for sale on Advrider for $4,000. The sad thing is it will sell for less.

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    Re: School me: Triumph Tiger Explorer, and comp

    Quote Originally Posted by Garandman View Post
    There is a well-equipped 2012 Tiger 1050 for sale on Advrider for $4,000. The sad thing is it will sell for less.
    https://advrider.com/f/threads/2012-...4-000.1507921/
    That is a really good deal. The 3 main weak points have been addressed: the suspension, headlights, and windscreen. I’m pretty sure that’s the Triumph comfort seat too.
    Unless you’re under like 5’5, you won’t be disappointed if you buy this.

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    Re: School me: Triumph Tiger Explorer, and comp

    wow that's a deal. I bet the mileage and fact it's due for service soon will deter quite a few potential buyers. I'm tempted to pick it up just to keep on the East coast for the few times a year I'm out there.

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    Re: School me: Triumph Tiger Explorer, and comp

    That Tiger 1050 just had a price drop to $3600…

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    Re: School me: Triumph Tiger Explorer, and comp

    At that price no reason to ever sell mine, which only has 14,000 miles.

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    I'm confident someone will buy that soon. So much bike for the money. I wish I was closer and/or had more time to spare to grab it.

    I really don't understand why it doesn't have more of a following.

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    Re: School me: Triumph Tiger Explorer, and comp

    Triumph orphaned the model in the U.S. The 1050 Sport is still popular and sold in Europe.480 lbs dry.

    https://www.triumphmotorcycles.co.uk...rt/tiger-sport

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    Re: School me: Triumph Tiger Explorer, and comp

    Quote Originally Posted by Garandman View Post
    Triumph orphaned the model in the U.S. The 1050 Sport is still popular and sold in Europe.480 lbs dry.

    https://www.triumphmotorcycles.co.uk...rt/tiger-sport
    I went to the site...I'm really digging the color schemes AND they have cruise control! A big push for me to get my Tiger was for the CC. Not sure I can live without that feature in a mile-muncher now.

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    Re: School me: Triumph Tiger Explorer, and comp

    It’s strange to me as 1,000cc chain drive bikes have never gone away.

    Their schizophrenic marketing is to blame: followed the Tiger 955, had a detuned 1050 that still moves out, but had a 17” front wheel so it wasn’t “adventurey” enough for the StarBucks grown.

    I test rode the smaller Tiger at the now defunct Seacoast NH dealership (who quoted me $400 or $800 over list) and was underwhelmed in comparison to the DL650 ABS I was riding. The Explorer was coming out but another heavy and expensive shaft drive 1200 didn’t work for me.

    The 1050 ABS and Ninja 1000 ABS were just right, the 1050 fit me better.

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    Re: School me: Triumph Tiger Explorer, and comp

    So.....what'd you buy? Seriously considering a '17 Explorer so this thread was semi-useful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nick5446 View Post
    So.....what'd you buy? Seriously considering a '17 Explorer so this thread was semi-useful.
    Kept my harley

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gixxer View Post
    Kept my harley
    booooooooring

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    Quote Originally Posted by nick5446 View Post
    So.....what'd you buy? Seriously considering a '17 Explorer so this thread was semi-useful.
    Unless it's a crazy good deal, I'd try to go for an '18+

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneCheekRider View Post
    Unless it's a crazy good deal, I'd try to go for an '18+
    What's the difference? I haven't been able to find much on these things to be honest.

    And yeah, I do consider it a crazy good deal, and it only has about 6k miles on it.

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    Re: School me: Triumph Tiger Explorer, and comp

    2018 is the start of Gen 3. 2016-17 is Gen 2. They're not terribly different but Gen 3 saw TFT dash, LED headlights with cornering lights, small engine upgrades, small semi-active suspension updates, available quickshifter, and other small appearance changes to switchgear and such.

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    As long as I get my heated seat I am stoked.

    Semi-kidding, but appreciate that advice. Sounds like a lot of nice to have features as opposed to a wholesale redesign to address a serious problem. I have never been a guy to ride expensive bikes, and though I've been lusting over a smaller Tiger since 2012, I can't bring myself to shell out the $20k for the 900 RP I really want (or even the $13k for the used 2020 kicking around). I think I'm instead going to drop $7k on this 2017 XCa, which, if I'm being honest with myself, is the more appropriate bike for my riding. I'm lucky if I hit a fire road twice a year, but I do do a lot of commuting a few road trips every year.

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    That seems like a great deal on a low mileage 2017, esp in this market. I used to lane-split on mine 50+ miles a day. Now it seems I use it almost exclusively for multi-day trips but I'm up to 6 bikes now so each bike has seen more focused use. Will be doing almost 2k miles next month on the Tiger. She's a big girl but I still enjoy my Gen 1.

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