A serious question for the board members

**naked-daytrader** · 10-21-07, 05:10 PM

This evening I was on a ride with a fellow board member who shall remain nameless. We were cruising down a fairly busy street with a 35 - 40 speed limit following 2 cars. Towards the end of the street I look into my shitty rearview mirrors and saw the blue lights flashing (the other board member was in back of me). He pulled over, I pulled over and the car in front of me pulled over, however the car in front of me and myself didn't completely stop and when we realized the police officer was stopping the other board member the car kept going as did I (I figured the cop would want me to pull over as well but I didn't). The cop asked the other member if I was with him and he said no.

Now, my question is this. What would be the correct thing to do? I always assumed it was an unspoken rule that when the popo lights up a group of riders, or just 2, the others should keep on going. This is the way I've always thought and I would hope if I was the one being pulled over everyone else would keep going (why let the cop issue 2 tickets or 4 or 8 or whatever when, if everyone else leaves, he's stuck issuing just 1 ??? Correct?). My only problem with the thinking above is this: After I left I felt like shit! Like I was leaving my buddy behind. I did call him on the cell and text him from down the street asking if he was ok and if he needed me to come back. (I ended up waiting for him a few miles down the road because he told me to leave the area) Am I correct in feeling this way or is it just the Marine in me who doesn't like to leave a buddy behind??

I'd like to know everyone else's thoughts on this because I honestly feel like a piece of shit right now. Even though we weren't driving like maniacs and the ticket was only 100 bucks, it's the principal of leaving a friend.

**Pittenger5** · 10-21-07, 05:20 PM

Personally if it was a group, I would be gone.
If it was me and a single friend or two, Id probably take the beating with them. But theyd have to be good friends.

**LuvDog** · 10-21-07, 05:32 PM

If it was me and just one or two other riders then I would stop.

Unless... that other rider was riding like a total douche.

**brendanp** · 10-21-07, 05:32 PM

If I were in your shoes (and I'm not saying this to make you feel like you did wrong or more shitty) I would have stayed with him. I'm pretty confident that if you had not done anything wrong, the cop is NOT going to cite you, or he is just an asshole! What was it that he got pulled over for?

**wookie** · 10-21-07, 05:36 PM

You could always split the $100 bucks if it makes you feel better.

No way to really tell, but do you think leaving increased his odds of a ticket over a warning? Otherwise, there was no point in you stopping except for moral support. If it was me and a buddy and I got pulled over, I would be okay with him leaving as long as he did it casually (so as not to infuriate the cop).

edit to note: I'm a little uncomforatable with this post. I don't want to suggest that anyone should expect others in a group to split the cost of tickets. For example, If I'm out front of a group and get bagged and others have a chance to slow down. Well that is just shit luck for me, I would have no expectations of anyone pitching in on the ticket. However, since it was just you and a good friend I thought I would just throw it out there.

**union** · 10-21-07, 05:38 PM

Its hard to say. Personally Id probably stop if it was just two of us. However if I stopped and my friend didnt I dont think id be mad. I wouldnt rat him out either as this unnamed member did. Neither did wrong. However if it were some jackass that just joined our group that usually rides and he took off depending on how I felt about him I might sell him out. Mark you know how I am with new people to the group. Im the asshole that takes them aside if I dont like their riding and I let them know. I think if I didnt stop and my buddy got a ticket I would offer to help pay it if he doesnt get off. I understand you feel like shit for not stopping but I know both of you pretty well and I cant imagine that he would be too mad. I know I wouldnt be too mad and that I would get over it pretty fast because we have way more fun then what one ticket will ruin.

**mycirus** · 10-21-07, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by wookie

how about you split the $100 bucks with him if it makes you feel better.

That sounds fair.

Bruce

**BigShel** · 10-21-07, 05:47 PM

What was the 100.00 ticket for?

Originally Posted by mycirus

That sounds fair.

Bruce

**Nate Dawg** · 10-21-07, 06:02 PM

if it was dennis I'd leave, and let him take a pounding. As I'm sure we all know hes always game for a good ass pounding

**Wishbone** · 10-21-07, 06:12 PM

If you made the attempt to slow down and pull to the side and the cop stopped with him and didn't tell him to ride up to you so he could bag you both then by all means casually leave. If the cop wanted the two of you he would have taken the both of you period.

I was riding on the highway last year with 2 knuckleheads and one good guy. A cop pulled out and lit ME up. I pulled over and was grilled about the other guys and I GAVE HIM NOTHING! I don't care how you feel about someone DON'T GIVE THEM UP. Thats my own feelings and is a whole other can of worms. But I was NOT mad that they kept going.

This year I was riding with Wookie and we got lit up for 5 over (

)
I was in back and purposely pulled over quikly to try and make a gap so either he would pass me and get Kevin or he would bust me and Kevin could skate. BUT he shot over the loud speaker for me to catch up to the next guy to talk to both of us.

The fact that you slowed down and pulled over was first responsible.When the cop stayed with the guy on the r6 and you slowly pulled away shows the cop that you felt you did nothing wrong and were just carrying on with your life.

If the cop lit you guys up and you dropped gear and pinned it then yeah your a douche.

Now I'm getting my popcorn because this is going to get LONG

**naked-daytrader** · 10-21-07, 06:27 PM

No I didn't pin it and the ticket was for 10 over speeding (45 in a 35). I really did pull over and was waiting for the cop to pull up to me but it didn't happen so I casually drove off.

Why do you think the cop pulled over an r-6?????????

**union** · 10-21-07, 06:34 PM

Originally Posted by naked-daytrader

Why do you think the cop pulled over an r-6?????????

Because he liked the ass that was on it and wanted a piece?

**noudidnt** · 10-21-07, 06:39 PM

I think that it being an unwritten rule.........everyone should agree before the ride starts. If a rider gets pulled then they will understand that they will take one for the team, and not give the cop anything, except respect.
I would be perfectly happy with chipping in for the ticket.

As for feeling bad about it, if they pulled me over and the group slid away, then I would be cool with it....better to take 1 ticket and be done. You just have to be careful and not make it look like you are speeding off, cause you still cant outrun a radio.

That being said any rider who rats on the group, I simply would not ride with.

**stevecbr900rr** · 10-21-07, 06:44 PM

Come on Mark don't even question it...I can understand your loyalty but if the cop didn't pull you over too...oh well.
When we were in VT the cop pulled over the first 6 of us. He gave 6 of us tickets. Deserving of one I must say...The rest of the pack cruised on by. I was Happy for them. At least we all didn't get Tickets. If he only pulled over the last in line, thats his call. He could have pulled you over too but he didn't.
Don't sweat it if Dennis has to DJ one more Party to pay the Ticket...oh well. For him it's just one more under aged teen to look at while he earns his money.

.

Honestly, If I were that person and I knew anyone in front of me got away without a Ticket... I would be Happy for them. I'm sure the person you were with would think the same way.

I have to say I feel good about your loyalty and the fact that you questioned it at all. Stand up guy in my book...

The rest of you can Kiss my Royal Ass!....

**Wishbone** · 10-21-07, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by naked-daytrader

No I didn't pin it and the ticket was for 10 over speeding (45 in a 35). I really did pull over and was waiting for the cop to pull up to me but it didn't happen so I casually drove off.

Why do you think the cop pulled over an r-6?????????

No harm no foul then

AND you Denno are soooo gay for each other I'm just doing the math. I mean I don't gamble but I do like to look at the odds

Oh and just another example

at around 10:30 last night Im almost home from a 600 mile day following a tomato in the left lane doin about 80ish

I notice a car on me like glue so as soon as I get a chance I pull over to the middle and sure enough its an undercover piggy

There was no way to inform the guy who just put 600 miles on wit me so I fall back like it was my job

and watch from a distance the cop follow the guy for about 5 miles until he realizes and THEN pulls over

So am I a jerk for saving my skin?

I don't think so, there was nothing I could do

**Wishbone** · 10-21-07, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by stevecbr900rr

When we were in VT the cop pulled over the first 6 of us. He gave 6 of us tickets. Deserving of one I must say...The rest of the pack cruised on by. I was Happy for them.

That was probably the most nerve racking miles (seemed liked 100 or so) it took to finally pass by you guys

and FYI I believe that we all told you all but we were torn on weather to proceed past you guys or to find another ride all together

**Doc** · 10-21-07, 06:51 PM

You might split the ticket but you can't split the points...

I woulda stopped with my buddy... Soldier code.

Marines are individuals.

**JohnnyV** · 10-21-07, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by fasterthanu

I was riding on the highway last year with 2 knuckleheads and one good guy. A cop pulled out and lit ME up. I pulled over and was grilled about the other guys and I GAVE HIM NOTHING! I don't care how you feel about someone DON'T GIVE THEM UP. Thats my own feelings and is a whole other can of worms. But I was NOT mad that they kept going.

This sounds familiar...

KB · 10-21-07, 06:52 PM

You got off he didn't. Shame on him.

don't feel bad that's the way it works. What you gonna do hang round and get ass fucked like he did. NOT!!!

KB

**Wishbone** · 10-21-07, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by 02Telefonica

This sounds familiar...

Yeah 3 gixxers and me on my SPORT TOURING bike

Guess which one of the other 3 I included you as

**wookie** · 10-21-07, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by fasterthanu

This year I was riding with Wookie and we got lit up for 5 over (

)
I was in back and purposely pulled over quikly to try and make a gap so either he would pass me and get Kevin or he would bust me and Kevin could skate. BUT he shot over the loud speaker for me to catch up to the next guy to talk to both of us.

but,

That still boggles the mind. The cop pulled us over, strutted up and while pointing menacingly at John said "I had you at 6 over"...then turned to me "I had you at 5 over." And then, no joke, said "where is the emergency." If guys with cameras jumped out of the pushes yelling "you've been punked" I would have been less surprised.

As cool as it was for John to hold back so I could have gotten away, I even more appreciated him not laughing.

BTW - were in the middle of no where (i.e., not in a town).

**The Crashing Tomato** · 10-21-07, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by fasterthanu

At around 10:30 last night Im almost home from a 600 mile day following a tomato in the left lane doin about 80ish

I notice a car on me like glue so as soon as I get a chance I pull over to the middle and sure enough its an undercover piggy

There was no way to inform the guy (

see

below) who just put 600 miles on wit me so I fall back like it was my job

and watch from a distance the cop follow the guy for about 5 miles until he realizes and THEN pulls over

I'm a JERK for saving my skin!

I think I could have done something,

BEEEEEEEP BEEEEP

There fixed it for ya

**Wishbone** · 10-21-07, 09:11 PM

Yeah like you would have been able to here the little beep beep on the highway

Plus I think it would have been a bit suspicious

**highsider** · 10-21-07, 09:14 PM

Basically, if I'm the last guy in line (which I usually am because I'm slow), and I get pulled over, I'd encourage everyone else to keep going unless the police chase you. Why should we all get tickets?

Also if the cop asks me who I was riding with, it was some random group of douchebags I happened upon while riding by myself. Dont believe me, fucking prove it.

Thats just my opinion.

**capt1014** · 10-22-07, 07:24 AM

Would have stopped with my friend. Group I probably would have gone.

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