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This could be my first new sport tourer in a long time.

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    This could be my first new sport tourer in a long time.

    Currently rocking a 2004 Honda ST1300, a segment Honda has abandoned.

    This could be my first new sport tourer in a long time.-2884656e-6d0b-4ff0-b5df-0e987b35a097

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    Re: This could be my first new sport tourer in a long time.

    If this tickles your nuts, and at the risk of not being “first,” have a look at the Multistrada 950.

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    Re: This could be my first new sport tourer in a long time.

    Not having IMU with features such as lean sensitive ABS/TC is a surprise in this day and age. Especially when the direct competitor Ninja 1000SX that was released couple years has it.

    I like power, and even the lowered powered Yamaha Tracer 9 seems more enticing than this new Suzuki.

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    Re: This could be my first new sport tourer in a long time.

    Price will matter, side bags and center stand are a must. Right now no mention of center stand, which is nuts.

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    Re: This could be my first new sport tourer in a long time.

    Quote Originally Posted by SteveM View Post
    Price will matter, side bags and center stand are a must. Right now no mention of center stand, which is nuts.
    Ninja 1000SX is similarly priced to this Suzuki. Yamaha more money. actually a few grand more. Just cant get over the omission of IMU on the Suzuki.

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    Re: This could be my first new sport tourer in a long time.

    Quote Originally Posted by loudbeard View Post
    If this tickles your nuts, and at the risk of not being “first,” have a look at the Multistrada 950.
    I don’t see a similarity there. This isn’t an ADV at all?


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    Re: This could be my first new sport tourer in a long time.

    I've got a Ninja 1k and love it. Not sure why bikes like this aren't more popular and available from all the big manufacturers. I would love one with an MT10 based power plant.

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    Re: This could be my first new sport tourer in a long time.

    No ADV interest, I’m looking at this as a long distance mile eater that can be fun on the 2 lanes as well.

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    Re: This could be my first new sport tourer in a long time.

    Quote Originally Posted by scottieducati View Post
    I don’t see a similarity there. This isn’t an ADV at all?


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    The Multi isn't an ADV either....

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    Re: This could be my first new sport tourer in a long time.

    Quote Originally Posted by DirtDawg21892 View Post
    I've got a Ninja 1k and love it. Not sure why bikes like this aren't more popular and available from all the big manufacturers. I would love one with an MT10 based power plant.
    Bought my 2008 Tiger 1050 in 2012. It was a detained sport engine with 17” wheels, chain drive, ABS, relatively light weight, good fuel capacity, relaxed riding position, and some weather protection. Upgraded suspension from the OEM Showa bits. The Ninja 1000 had been introduced, the GSX1000, etc.

    That formula is still very valid. The modern additions are lean-sensitive ABS, traction control, electronic cruise control, and better lighting.

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    Re: This could be my first new sport tourer in a long time.

    They look like ADVs but are meant for tarmac.

    For the pricing of roughly $13k I'd take a hard look at previous gen S1000XR, multistrada etc. They have modern electronics, more power and you just get more overall.

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    Re: This could be my first new sport tourer in a long time.

    Quote Originally Posted by DirtDawg21892 View Post
    I've got a Ninja 1k and love it. Not sure why bikes like this aren't more popular and available from all the big manufacturers. I would love one with an MT10 based power plant.
    With the way Yamaha is hitting home runs, it wouldn't be too surprising that it becomes reality. However with the Tracer 9 GT being $15k plus destination charges, I'd would guess a MT10 based sport touring bike would be in the $18ks. There's a lot of competition in that price range.

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    Re: This could be my first new sport tourer in a long time.

    This thread is wall-to-wall good points. Ditto on the "this is a Suzuki version of the Ninja 1k just inexplicably uncompetitive on features" and "look at a used 1000XR" in particular.

    For me personally, I'd need to *really* prefer the fit/finish and riding experience of a 1000XR to even remotely consider opting into the BMW maintenance experience vs. a Kawi 1000.

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    Re: This could be my first new sport tourer in a long time.

    I'm looking at, for similar reasons, a sport-tourer next. Top contenders for me are the Ducati 950SS, and the perhaps the new Moto Guzzi V100 Mandello. The KTM 1290GT is a possibility, but I don't have enough knowledge/faith in its longevity and durability. A Kawasaki H2 SX SE needs to be tested. The Motus MST was a very strong contender until they went out of business.

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    Re: This could be my first new sport tourer in a long time.

    Quote Originally Posted by SwiftTone View Post
    Just cant get over the omission of IMU on the Suzuki.
    Not everyone is love with tech.

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    Re: This could be my first new sport tourer in a long time.

    Quote Originally Posted by DirtDawg21892 View Post
    I've got a Ninja 1k and love it. Not sure why bikes like this aren't more popular and available from all the big manufacturers. I would love one with an MT10 based power plant.
    I strongly considered a Ninja 1000 before I got my ADV. The biggest appeal to go ADV at the time was electronic cruise control. Now that (sport touring) bikes are finally coming with this and other electronics as standard equipment, I can see myself going back to the sport touring segment... although the payload, ground clearance, and gadgets on ADVs has proven to be very versatile for me.

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    Re: This could be my first new sport tourer in a long time.

    For me,

    500lbs is 200 less than my ST1300.
    Cruise is nice
    ABS is nice

    The rest is more than I need.
    A single, predictable power delivery mode and suspension are all I need.

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    Re: This could be my first new sport tourer in a long time.

    My case for the Multistrada 950 is this:

    Wrapping up my first season of ownership of a 1st gen Multi, I’m in love with the bike. 1000 cc air cooled L twin, makes about 100 hp and 50 ft lbs, has more than enough for anything I want to do on the street. It weighs 475 wet and handles on rails. Has ample (removable) luggage capacity for me to go as far as I want. This bike is a test case for me to dip my toes into sport touring, if I still have this same loving feeling after next season, I’m going to buy a new bike. I want the electronics suite that’s available on modern motorcycles; +/- quick shifter, IMU, ABS, TCS, ride by wire, cruise, etc.

    The Multistrada 950 is the first bike Ducati has made since the 1st gen Multi that is (on paper) everything I love about the old bike, just more. 950 cc L twin with about 115 hp and 70 ft lbs. Weighs the same 475 lbs. Has the electronics I’m looking for in my next bike. I’ll be looking and testing basically everything in this segment (Tracer 9 is on the list) but the 950 Multi is at the top.

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    Re: This could be my first new sport tourer in a long time.

    interesting one steve.

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    Re: This could be my first new sport tourer in a long time.

    Quote Originally Posted by nt650hawk View Post
    interesting one steve.
    Gino,

    I'm always solo, so the pillion support doesn't matter to me. On the ST1300, there's ample pillion room and the rack out back.

    This looks more like a VFR in that I'd strap a dry bag to the pillion to augment the hard side bags.

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    Re: This could be my first new sport tourer in a long time.

    Quote Originally Posted by loudbeard View Post
    My case for the Multistrada 950 is this:

    Wrapping up my first season of ownership of a 1st gen Multi, I’m in love with the bike. 1000 cc air cooled L twin, makes about 100 hp and 50 ft lbs, has more than enough for anything I want to do on the street. It weighs 475 wet and handles on rails. Has ample (removable) luggage capacity for me to go as far as I want. This bike is a test case for me to dip my toes into sport touring, if I still have this same loving feeling after next season, I’m going to buy a new bike. I want the electronics suite that’s available on modern motorcycles; +/- quick shifter, IMU, ABS, TCS, ride by wire, cruise, etc.

    The Multistrada 950 is the first bike Ducati has made since the 1st gen Multi that is (on paper) everything I love about the old bike, just more. 950 cc L twin with about 115 hp and 70 ft lbs. Weighs the same 475 lbs. Has the electronics I’m looking for in my next bike. I’ll be looking and testing basically everything in this segment (Tracer 9 is on the list) but the 950 Multi is at the top.
    Here yah go fanboi!

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    Re: This could be my first new sport tourer in a long time.

    If only Zook had carried on with and developed the RF line. This is what the RF's should have ended up evolving into to.

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    Re: This could be my first new sport tourer in a long time.

    Quote Originally Posted by scottieducati View Post
    Here yah go fanboi!

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    Re: This could be my first new sport tourer in a long time.

    Quote Originally Posted by FriskyDingo View Post
    Bellissimo! I can finally order that pair of Ducati banana hammocks that have been in my Amazon shopping cart for years!

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