Before this gets out of control
Dave (Karaya1) was not addressing you (Roso) or Bigred. He was replying to RICHW. Then red jumped all over his case and Dave shut the heck up as he's bigger and better than arguing like schoolgirls.
I have known Dave for years, so have many many people here and in the New England motorcycling community. He has the respect of many of us and represents Michelin in a professional manner.
Quite frankly, I don't blame Dave one bit. I haven't seen a picture yet of the alleged tire damage, but I would bet my life it isn't manufacturing defect and if it isn't manufacturing defect then Michelin do have the right and obligation to tell you to go piss up a rope.
Because a dealer's tech tells you a groove in a tire is deep is no reason to believe that is true. Most dealer techs are hacks at the best of times.
Let's see some pics and then Dave will be able to tell you if it's right/wrong or what the cause of it is.
By the way, Dave doesn't work for Michelin, he works for their distributer.
derek
Re: Before this gets out of control
derek just like i am quoting you right now so that red or anyone else thinks i am talking them he could have done
like you said this bickering like schoolgirls shit is dumb i am done i am not working with michelin and have no plans to at this point.
i am gonna get my bike back eventually and go for a ride this aint worth it.
"Quite frankly, I don't blame Dave one bit. I haven't seen a picture yet of the alleged tire damage, but I would bet my life it isn't manufacturing defect and if it isn't manufacturing defect then Michelin do have the right and obligation to tell you to go piss up a rope." is this biased or do you work for them too.
when i posted the first thread i did not intend for it to start a mini war i just wanted to know if anyone ran into this. and i should have used the term split and not cracks these are not cracks.
"Because a dealer's tech tells you a groove in a tire is deep is no reason to believe that is true. Most dealer techs are hacks at the best of times." I dont need dealer techs to tell me anything, like any of us who have seen tires or know anything about mechanics and chemistry the rubber should not do this i hope to christ i can get the tire back to show you and maybe even michelin will get a chance to see it and determine what it could be.
"Let's see some pics and then Dave will be able to tell you if it's right/wrong or what the cause of it is." I dont need to show Dave anything, he is not making the decision on whether to give me a tire, at this point the dealership has the bike and that includes the tire so i cant take a pic and i cant show you.
To All,
Sorry if I have lost my composure, but in a time when a fellow rider just bought his first new bike and it is in the shop in the first few weeks of ownership, and feels like he needs to prove something is like a big kick in the balls when you are already down.
gino
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Originally posted by Degsy
Dave (Karaya1) was not addressing you (Roso) or Bigred. He was replying to RICHW. Then red jumped all over his case and Dave shut the heck up as he's bigger and better than arguing like schoolgirls.
I have known Dave for years, so have many many people here and in the New England motorcycling community. He has the respect of many of us and represents Michelin in a professional manner.
Quite frankly, I don't blame Dave one bit. I haven't seen a picture yet of the alleged tire damage, but I would bet my life it isn't manufacturing defect and if it isn't manufacturing defect then Michelin do have the right and obligation to tell you to go piss up a rope.
Because a dealer's tech tells you a groove in a tire is deep is no reason to believe that is true. Most dealer techs are hacks at the best of times.
Let's see some pics and then Dave will be able to tell you if it's right/wrong or what the cause of it is.
By the way, Dave doesn't work for Michelin, he works for their distributer.
derek
Re: Re: Before this gets out of control
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Originally posted by roso
derek just like i am quoting you right now so that red or anyone else thinks i am talking them he could have done
like you said this bickering like schoolgirls shit is dumb i am done i am not working with michelin and have no plans to at this point.
i am gonna get my bike back eventually and go for a ride this aint worth it.
"Quite frankly, I don't blame Dave one bit. I haven't seen a picture yet of the alleged tire damage, but I would bet my life it isn't manufacturing defect and if it isn't manufacturing defect then Michelin do have the right and obligation to tell you to go piss up a rope." is this biased or do you work for them too.
when i posted the first thread i did not intend for it to start a mini war i just wanted to know if anyone ran into this. and i should have used the term split and not cracks these are not cracks.
"Because a dealer's tech tells you a groove in a tire is deep is no reason to believe that is true. Most dealer techs are hacks at the best of times." I dont need dealer techs to tell me anything, like any of us who have seen tires or know anything about mechanics and chemistry the rubber should not do this i hope to christ i can get the tire back to show you and maybe even michelin will get a chance to see it and determine what it could be.
"Let's see some pics and then Dave will be able to tell you if it's right/wrong or what the cause of it is." I dont need to show Dave anything, he is not making the decision on whether to give me a tire, at this point the dealership has the bike and that includes the tire so i cant take a pic and i cant show you.
To All,
Sorry if I have lost my composure, but in a time when a fellow rider just bought his first new bike and it is in the shop in the first few weeks of ownership, and feels like he needs to prove something is like a big kick in the balls when you are already down.
gino
Buddah bing-buddah-boom. There's the problem. The mysterious dealership who's name you won't mention is holding onto your bike indefinitely until they make a decision whether they will replace a defective tire that they supplied on a bike that they sold to you. What great customer service.
I would have been out of there in 1 hour with a new tire.
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Originally posted by Degsy
Buddah bing-buddah-boom. There's the problem. The mysterious dealership who's name you won't mention is holding onto your bike indefinitely until they make a decision whether they will replace a defective tire that they supplied on a bike that they sold to you. What great customer service.
I would have been out of there in 1 hour with a new tire.
degsy have you read any of the previous posts, i said the dealer was gonna take care of it but they wanted to see if suzuki would cover it first and no it has not been forever, i dropped it off yesterday afternoon. today its raining and tomorrow too so i dont care if it sits there for now.
actually i went to this dealership because when i was making the purchase the seemed like the least dirt bags, they were very nice and still are trying to keep me happy, they could have easily said screw its a tire perishable item
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Originally posted by roso
degsy have you read any of the previous posts
Degsy can't read, stop teasing him :axe: