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    Re: Street/commuter/ADV ride

    Quote Originally Posted by whynot View Post
    That’s an 800. You can find pretty nice 1050’s for $4-$6k

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    Re: Street/commuter/ADV ride

    Ignore the bike, that purple Mercedes Metris has WTF were you thinking all over it.

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    Re: Street/commuter/ADV ride

    A sweet smt for sale relatively local within budget

    https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...2152346663495/

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    Re: Street/commuter/ADV ride

    https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...30127377695272
    2013 Tiger Explorer XC - 10k miles - $9k
    A little beat, maybe still worth it?

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    Re: Street/commuter/ADV ride

    Hmmm...
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    2016 F800GS - 3k miles - $9900

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    Re: Street/commuter/ADV ride

    Another BMW -- at NPS -- F800GT (faired) 21K miles $8400

    https://www.nationalpowersports.net/...l?itemid=53902

    Kind of appeals to me --

    "This 2015 BMW F800GT with 20,994 miles passes NH state inspection and runs and rides well. From the factory, it comes equipped with heated grips, an electronic suspension system, and TPMS. It's been upgraded with a Leo Vince slip on muffler and we have also replaced the front tire as well.

    Designed with performance and comfort in mind, the F800 is a capable and dynamic sport bike with responsive acceleration and tight handling. It's powered by a 798cc parallel twin engine with a 6-speed transmission, that produces 90 horsepower at 8,000 rpm and 62 foot-pounds of torque at 5,800 rpm. It has a seat height of 31.5" and a dry weight of 470 lbs.

    This bike has received our Premium service and detail and comes covered under a 90 day, 3,000 mile nationwide warranty."

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    Re: Street/commuter/ADV ride

    There are a TON of used 1290 ADV's out there right now. Freedom cycle in Concord has several used ones including a nice 1290 ADV-R.
    I think National had three in a row. (Just checked, they have 5 on the website; 2 2015/16 'T' models, 3 2018's 2 of which are -R's.)

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    Re: Street/commuter/ADV ride

    The 1290's historically have not sold well. It's a bit surprising given how phenomenal they are, but from some perspectives I can see why. The seat height alone is daunting (on the 15-20's), and the weight is tough to wave off when you gotta pick it up.

    It seems to me that most people that want a KTM adventure bike are looking for that unicorn, and the 890R just stomped all over the 1x90's for that crown.

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    Re: Street/commuter/ADV ride

    Saw a 2015 Explorer for sale for $7500, with hard bags, 25k miles locally. Then looked up the nightmares people are having with the valve train on that thing.

    Perhaps an extended warranty would change things? (lol, kidding)

    Still on the R1200GS/A or 1290SA wagon.... though I really don't think I'd need the Adventure / R model for my purposes.

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    Re: Street/commuter/ADV ride

    Quote Originally Posted by TheIglu View Post
    Saw a 2015 Explorer for sale for $7500, with hard bags, 25k miles locally. Then looked up the nightmares people are having with the valve train on that thing.

    Perhaps an extended warranty would change things? (lol, kidding)

    Still on the R1200GS/A or 1290SA wagon.... though I really don't think I'd need the Adventure / R model for my purposes.
    My bike is basically everything you're looking for. 2015-2016 Super Adventures were all the "T" (touring) variant, and was subsequently renamed the Super Adventure T in 2017 with the introduction of the newer and fancier R and S models.

    The only thing to be leery of on this model is the semi-active suspension. Some love it, some hate it. If the rear shock goes out it can get expensive, although you can order one from overseas for $450 (KTM distributors are smoking crack; they ask $1100 in the US). And the preload motor has been finicky for some people (mine was fine for 5 years until I broke it myself by trying to remove it).

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    Re: Street/commuter/ADV ride

    Quote Originally Posted by TheIglu View Post
    Saw a 2015 Explorer for sale for $7500, with hard bags, 25k miles locally. Then looked up the nightmares people are having with the valve train on that thing.

    Perhaps an extended warranty would change things? (lol, kidding)

    Still on the R1200GS/A or 1290SA wagon.... though I really don't think I'd need the Adventure / R model for my purposes.

    I hope my experience isn't ruining it for the Tigers. It's been a solid bike with a shitty aftermarket warranty I should have never bought. The kink in the timing chain is not common and not that big of a deal to replace.

    I think the 1290 is more sporty but the GS (or even the Tiger) has the benefit of the shaft drive. Commuting everyday and even long tours I've grown to enjoy the maintenance-free final drive.

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    Re: Street/commuter/ADV ride

    Quote Originally Posted by OneCheekRider View Post

    I hope my experience isn't ruining it for the Tigers. It's been a solid bike with a shitty aftermarket warranty I should have never bought. The kink in the timing chain is not common and not that big of a deal to replace.

    I think the 1290 is more sporty but the GS (or even the Tiger) has the benefit of the shaft drive. Commuting everyday and even long tours I've grown to enjoy the maintenance-free final drive.
    I thought the early Explorers dropped a few valves like Kenns.

    I find it amusing that someone would rule out that bike because of that and still look at BMW and KTM as more reliable though.

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    Re: Street/commuter/ADV ride

    The very early ones had a bulletin for head replacement which could get replaced under warranty. I'm not sure if that contributed to Kenn's valve issue or not but either way I think he was covered under manufacturer warranty. I will say after the first year or two I haven't seen many issues posted in the owner's group. 2014 and later didn't have any known issues that needed to be addressed.

    Definitely agree the other brands have their own issues.

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    Re: Street/commuter/ADV ride

    It really comes down to experience. I'd imagine Triumph, KTM and BMW are all on a pretty level playing field wrt reliability. But the fact that my KTM has 51k miles on it while my buddy's Tiger 800 started eating a quart of oil every 500 miles at 30k and left him stranded twice in that time, has pretty much put me off ever buying a Triumph as an adventure bike.

    But as always YMMV.

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    Re: Street/commuter/ADV ride

    Quote Originally Posted by SRTie4k View Post
    It really comes down to experience. I'd imagine Triumph, KTM and BMW are all on a pretty level playing field wrt reliability. But the fact that my KTM has 51k miles on it while my buddy's Tiger 800 started eating a quart of oil every 500 miles at 30k and left him stranded twice in that time, has pretty much put me off ever buying a Triumph as an adventure bike.

    But as always YMMV.
    I suspect they're all about the same, as you said. Pick your poison kind of thing.

    My 800 has over 50k and doesn't drink oil like a drunken sailor. MarkBVTs has over 100k on it at this point as well.

    I took mine across Labrador without worry.

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    Re: Street/commuter/ADV ride

    It's one thing to need to change a drive shaft for $900 after *only* 75k miles on a GS.

    Or need to replace a rear wheel bearing on one for $400 after 50k.


    It's another thing to need a new engine due to cam chain guides eating shit after 30k.

    Of course, it's all anecdotal and you likely hear only the complaints online vs the "been fine for 100k" users.

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    Re: Street/commuter/ADV ride

    Quote Originally Posted by TheIglu View Post
    It's one thing to need to change a drive shaft for $900 after *only* 75k miles on a GS.

    Or need to replace a rear wheel bearing on one for $400 after 50k.


    It's another thing to need a new engine due to cam chain guides eating shit after 30k.

    Of course, it's all anecdotal and you likely hear only the complaints online vs the "been fine for 100k" users.
    Wonder how much of that was because of poor maintenance? No idea what the interval is on checking valves on those motors, but I would think a problem would be noticeable on one of those checks.

    OneCheekRider caught the issue with his by paying attention

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    Re: Street/commuter/ADV ride

    not sure if Ducs are OFF your list, but this seems like a deal:
    2017 Ducati Multistrada 950 - $7,500
    https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/mc...459046113.html

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    Re: Street/commuter/ADV ride

    Quote Originally Posted by SRTie4k View Post
    It really comes down to experience. I'd imagine Triumph, KTM and BMW are all on a pretty level playing field wrt reliability. But the fact that my KTM has 51k miles on it while my buddy's Tiger 800 started eating a quart of oil every 500 miles at 30k and left him stranded twice in that time, has pretty much put me off ever buying a Triumph as an adventure bike.

    But as always YMMV.
    On the Baja trip last year we had to leave behind a KTM. IIRC he paid someone with a pickup $100 USD to take him and the bike to the border where he had to push it across and we were able to pick him up. It made for a good story since it all worked out but I remember being thankful to ride back over the border at the time.

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    Re: Street/commuter/ADV ride

    Quote Originally Posted by TheIglu View Post
    Saw a 2015 Explorer for sale for $7500, with hard bags, 25k miles locally. Then looked up the nightmares people are having with the valve train on that thing.

    Perhaps an extended warranty would change things? (lol, kidding)

    Still on the R1200GS/A or 1290SA wagon.... though I really don't think I'd need the Adventure / R model for my purposes.
    Are hard bags and wind protection big selling points?

    What are your thoughts on the triumph scrambler 1200xe?





    How is triumphs resale values?

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    Re: Street/commuter/ADV ride

    Quote Originally Posted by FriskyDingo View Post
    not sure if Ducs are OFF your list, but this seems like a deal:
    2017 Ducati Multistrada 950 - $7,500
    https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/mc...459046113.html
    Saw that one... hmmmmm.

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    Re: Street/commuter/ADV ride

    Quote Originally Posted by Gixxer View Post
    Are hard bags and wind protection big selling points?

    What are your thoughts on the triumph scrambler 1200xe?





    How is triumphs resale values?
    Hard bags and wind protection IS a selling point. I spend an hour each way on highway for my commute.

    And so is a shaft drive for the increased maintenance intervals.

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