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    Re: V-strom build


    You are doing all this for under a grand?

    Well then, carry on.

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    Re: V-strom build

    I *think* you've answered this elsewhere Randy, but who are you using for a machine shop?

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    Re: V-strom build

    Quote Originally Posted by jasnmar View Post
    I *think* you've answered this elsewhere Randy, but who are you using for a machine shop?
    custom fab stuff has been done at B&B Fabricating here in Farmington and dealer installation at Rochester Motorsports

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    Re: V-strom build

    Quote Originally Posted by jasnmar View Post
    I *think* you've answered this elsewhere Randy, but who are you using for a machine shop?
    I dropped my stator side cover off at KJE Automotive in Rochester a few days ago to drill the stator bolt holes and tap them all the way thru




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    Re: V-strom build

    Significant progress, the external auxiliary alternator is mechanically installed, still have to fabricate an auxiliary battery box and do the wiring

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    Re: V-strom build

    Alternator is a Powermaster 8182 75 amp rated for up to 20,000 rpm, between the stock alternator and the auxiliary alternator, I will have 108 amps on tap

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    Re: V-strom build

    What ratio are you driving this at (since it doesn't come with a pulley...)? I see most ratings at 6K RPM as the industry standard. I notice the part #8182 has 7A at "idle" and 75 A at max rpm, vs. the 8162 at 30 A idle and 55A max respectively. If they're rating it at 13.5V, you're looking at 1458 watts at peak speed? This seems odd since you're into insulation, not heated gear.

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    Re: V-strom build

    Quote Originally Posted by carsick View Post
    What ratio are you driving this at (since it doesn't come with a pulley...)? I see most ratings at 6K RPM as the industry standard. I notice the part #8182 has 7A at "idle" and 75 A at max rpm, vs. the 8162 at 30 A idle and 55A max respectively. If they're rating it at 13.5V, you're looking at 1458 watts at peak speed? This seems odd since you're into insulation, not heated gear.
    I use insulation for the coldest weather where I only ride solo (25f and colder), electricity for above and maybe 2up


    pulley ratio is 1.5:1, the guy I bought it from did a lot of experimentation with pulley ratio and load testing at various rpm, initially he was using a different alternator but it couldn't handle the high rpm of a bike, hence the reason for the 8182, his testing showed that it puts out over 50 amps at V-strom 1k cruising rpms.he ran this setup for nearly 2 years until he returned his Vee to stock and sold the bike. then offered me the setup for $200

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    Re: V-strom build

    Looks like my auxiliary battery will be a DS42B24R (Prius) , I will have to notch my inner fender for clearance

    leaning toward a yellow top optima, designed for both starting and deep cycle, 450CCA, with the extra power, I will easily have enuf for 2up heat,100watt eurobeam driving lamp, 55watt fog lamp (both Hella 4000s) a set of low mounted leds, heated seat (rider and pillion) and a 200 watt inverter, as well as gps,radar & autocom

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    Re: V-strom build

    Awesome project. Looks super clean too. So in the summer you can power a railgun which will be nice.

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    Re: V-strom build

    Randy... missed you at the peeps all the usual suspects were there

    Take a look at a marine battery if they are small enough, they take lots of physical and electrical abuse

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    Re: V-strom build

    Quote Originally Posted by Stromper View Post
    Randy... missed you at the peeps all the usual suspects were there

    Take a look at a marine battery if they are small enough, they take lots of physical and electrical abuse
    marine batteries are not rated for cold starts, I considered them, not many people go boating when it's -30

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    Re: V-strom build

    Quote Originally Posted by RandyO View Post
    Looks like my auxiliary battery will be a DS42B24R (Prius) , I will have to notch my inner fender for clearance

    leaning toward a yellow top optima, designed for both starting and deep cycle, 450CCA, with the extra power, I will easily have enuf for 2up heat,100watt eurobeam driving lamp, 55watt fog lamp (both Hella 4000s) a set of low mounted leds, heated seat (rider and pillion) and a 200 watt inverter, as well as gps,radar & autocom
    just ordered the battery, found it for $123.74, over $100 off list price of $225.99

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    Re: V-strom build

    now I get to work on the box, I will make a cardboard mock-up to give to my local fab shop, end result will be tight fitting box about 5" higher than in the photo
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    Re: V-strom build

    ready to make progress again, but am rethinking my battery location

    it would be much easier to mount the battery and all the components in a NEMA 4 box on my luggage rack, it would be more easily accessible, and the Optima battery is an AGM so it don't need to be mounted vertical, the downside is higher center of gravity, the 23 lb battery will be nearly a foot higher, and behind the rear axle

    a custom battery box would be much more complicated, and cut into the underside of the tail with barely any clearance between the chain guard at full compression of the suspension

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    Re: V-strom build

    Brave enough for lithium

    search ebay for the box also Nema 12 would be fine too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stromper View Post
    Brave enough for lithium

    search ebay for the box also Nema 12 would be fine too
    lithium was not even a consideration, cold weather reliability was my #1 consideration when choosing a battery, and Li is not there yet

    NEMA 12 is primarily an indoor enclosure, not rated for water tightness that the NEMA 4 is

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    Re: V-strom build

    been looking at this enclosure

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    Re: V-strom build

    4 years later......... the build was put on hold while I was getting my seizure disorder under control. haven't even registered the bike in 2 years. Today, it went off to my dealer for service & inspection, I will get it registered tomorrow, so they can put a sticker on it.

    Then I'm back to the build, first thing is the battery box, then an auxiliary wire harness, and hook it all up.

    after that, next on list is a Russell Day Long Saddle

    and somewhere in future is an expanded fuel tank

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    Re: V-strom build

    Quote Originally Posted by RandyO View Post
    4 years later......... the build was put on hold while I was getting my seizure disorder under control. haven't even registered the bike in 2 years. Today, it went off to my dealer for service & inspection, I will get it registered tomorrow, so they can put a sticker on it.

    Then I'm back to the build, first thing is the battery box, then an auxiliary wire harness, and hook it all up.

    after that, next on list is a Russell Day Long Saddle

    and somewhere in future is an expanded fuel tank
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    I learned today, I may have a rusty fuel tank issue

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    Let me know if/when you want a hand with that so we can make sure the entire tank gets coated proper!

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    Randy Strommer are have an intimate Peep show up at Cupsuptic/Rangely

    Poorly attended all the Canucks are some where else in Northern Quebec

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stromper View Post
    Randy Strommer are have an intimate Peep show up at Cupsuptic/Rangely

    Poorly attended all the Canucks are some where else in Northern Quebec
    As beet would say: "ta fuck?"

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