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I might think differently I had a heavy bike. But I've towed the CRF a million times, the KTM a million times, and the Ducati once. All with cam buckles and it's nice.
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Ratchet!
Soft loop tie down, and straps are not so long (or too thick) that they bind up...lay them in advance, then cinch the smallest amount possible that they don’t go anywhere
I just do the front but the YZ back bounces around...may get the peg system or pit bull...
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Cam straps, ratchet straps, does not matter. What matters is the quality of the fabric and stitching, and how you set things up. With cam buckles, *always* tie a knot just in-front of the cam, so any failure will jam itself and not come apart. I have a bag full of both varieties and use them for different applications, some shared applications. They key to safe trailer-ing with straps is preparation, how you "finish" the job (w/ loose ends and cam buckles), and redundancy (multiple straps).
Not that uncommon : 11/2" x 61/2ft PowerTye Made in USA Ergonomic Locking Ratchet Soft-Tye Tie-Downs with Heavy-Duty Latch Hooks, Orange/Black (pair) - - Amazon.com
I'm pretty sure every combination and permutation is covered here.
Ratchets. Cams can loosen. Cams are SO much easier though, but I wouldn't trust anything super critical with them.
The issue I have with cam buckles is they are hard to get tight as you do not have much mechanical advantage with them. For a bike I've used them as you can compress the suspension and that will keep things snug. Other items, I like ratchet straps, especially if I can break shit.
I also keep a set of these in the truck and they actually work quite well for lighter usage. And they are really convenient for adding a tie down point to an existing line.
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Roll the bike into the wheel chock or whatever. Secure both straps to the handlebars/canyondancers/lower-triple/whatever lightly. Pull the motorcycle to one side, tighten strap. Repeat on other side. Repeat that over and over again until the bike is down fairly tight.
2 straps on the back of the motorcycle going backwards. Orient straps such that you are able to pull up on the loose end to tighten, not down. Sit or lean over the bike putting your weight on the rear suspension as you pull up on the strap ends.
Bike isn't going anywhere.
At least that's my experience.
No pic at the moment but I usually do a loop and pull the full slack through just past the cam buckle (it’s mouth end). You can test with a bike tied down and secured. Just press the cam to release it and watch what happens. I suppose you could try different knots even.
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Last edited by Garandman; 07-27-18 at 02:24 PM.
I use the 1" for the rear of the bike and the 2" ones for the front, where the majority of the strength is required.
I've been very happy with them. If they had locking hooks, they would be nearly perfect.
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I've always preferred ratchet straps. I know some people swear by cam straps because they take less time and are a little easier. I'd rather take an extra few minutes and put a ratchet strap on all 4 corners of the bike. Between being able to either tie a loop or use the s hooks I've never had much frustration with just regular old cheap ratchet straps. It's embarrassing but I've probably had the same set in the bed of my truck for 8 years. I've never had a bike tip over and hauled bikes and junk up and down the east coast. So for now I guess I'm just gonna keep doing what works for me.
Last edited by 01xj; 07-27-18 at 04:08 PM.
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Cam. I’m too stoopid to fix the ratchets when they come undone.
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Just discovered that one of my cam buckle tie-downs has basically torn in half
'02 Ducati 998, '08 Ducati HyperMotard 1100S, '14 Subaru XV Crosstrek
Have a thread about setting up the new trailer on Advrider. The owner of a Tiger 800 posted this picture. Rolled the bike on, set the ratchet straps in place, and did not notice one of the S hooks came off..... *
I’m using straps with Carabiners. Even if they come with S hooks you can slip a spring hook in as required.
* Being Advrider, his next action was not to pick up the bike, but take a picture....
Last edited by Garandman; 08-25-18 at 06:02 AM.
Cam buckle... because anyone that says otherwise is just plain wrong.
(because they secure with friction, not a click and pawl tooth system that is prone to failure)
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