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    track prep for a Husky 701?

    Thinking about putting motard wheels/tires on my Husky 701 Enduro, and bringing it to some track days. What else would you do to it? 4.25" vs. 5" rear? Steering damper?

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    Re: track prep for a Husky 701?

    Rick Breen raced one, he'd be a good place to start for some suggestions?

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    Re: track prep for a Husky 701?

    I would do nothing to it. Show up and rip it. Seriously.

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    Re: track prep for a Husky 701?

    Turbo or big bore kit.

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    Re: track prep for a Husky 701?

    I didn't think there was another bookend beyond "full race prep" and "nothing," but somehow Clayton managed to find it.

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    Re: track prep for a Husky 701?

    "Sportsman" style?

    If it helps, I now own 4.25 and 5" rears for my WR450F conversion. I can't tell the difference when riding, only when trying to fit that 5" rear doing swaps. The 5" is a huge pain in the ass and required I disassemble the chain guide, swear profusely, sacrafice a virgin, and break out the BFH. Done over again I'd have two 4.25" wheels.

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    Re: track prep for a Husky 701?

    Quote Originally Posted by nhbubba View Post
    "Sportsman" style?

    If it helps, I now own 4.25 and 5" rears for my WR450F conversion. I can't tell the difference when riding, only when trying to fit that 5" rear doing swaps. The 5" is a huge pain in the ass and required I disassemble the chain guide, swear profusely, sacrafice a virgin, and break out the BFH. Done over again I'd have two 4.25" wheels.
    I got chain slap with the 4.25 but didn't with the 5. That's why I went with the 5 as well as being able to use the whole tire.

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    Re: track prep for a Husky 701?

    I think he's talking 17s"? On a 701 the 5 in should fit fine. This isn't an MX bike we are talking about. You guys are comparing apples to oranges here.

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    Re: track prep for a Husky 701?

    The 17" rear wheel on the factory 701SM is a 5.00" width so that shouldn't be any cause for concern.

    Like Paul said nothing is not a bad option.

    If you're going with 17" wheels you could see if there is a spacer available for the front caliper to allow you to run a larger diameter front rotor. Maybe some different brake pads. Other than that it should be a fun ride as it sits. If it ever becomes a track dedicated toy then the suspension and brakes would come into play but to get out there and have fun, grip it and rip it.

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    Re: track prep for a Husky 701?

    As I said, if it helps.

    I assumed we were talking about enduro -> SM conversion with 17's at both ends.

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    Re: track prep for a Husky 701?

    Yep, enduro->SM conversion with 17's on both ends. The stock front rotor on the Enduro is 300mm, and feels *very* effective on the street with the 21" front knobby. Obviously no idea how it'll feel with a sticky 17 hauling down from 100mph, but my gut says the front fork will cause more puckering / confidence-loss than the brakes.

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    Re: track prep for a Husky 701?

    I was able to overpower the ~260mm front on my WR easily. It was susceptible to fade in a way I hadn't experienced on a motorcycle. 300mm is likely better. Probably worth a shot before throwing money at it.

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    Re: track prep for a Husky 701?

    Aside from hoops and rubber, hi temp brake fluid up front would be my only other want for the first out.

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    Re: track prep for a Husky 701?

    Quote Originally Posted by feralchimp View Post
    Yep, enduro->SM conversion with 17's on both ends. The stock front rotor on the Enduro is 300mm, and feels *very* effective on the street with the 21" front knobby. Obviously no idea how it'll feel with a sticky 17 hauling down from 100mph, but my gut says the front fork will cause more puckering / confidence-loss than the brakes.
    I would bet that the 300mm rotor will be ok for track days. Was merely a suggestion.

    I am used to motards with bigger rotors and bigger calipers. Have a couple '06 Husqvarna SM510R and a '17 Husqvarna 701 SM in the stable that all have big Brembo calipers and big rotors. I like brakes.

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    Re: track prep for a Husky 701?

    Quote Originally Posted by tls25rs View Post
    I would bet that the 300mm rotor will be ok for track days. Was merely a suggestion.

    I am used to motards with bigger rotors and bigger calipers. Have a couple '06 Husqvarna SM510R and a '17 Husqvarna 701 SM in the stable that all have big Brembo calipers and big rotors. I like brakes.
    You need big brakes. Lol As do I. P=MV

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    Re: track prep for a Husky 701?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rada View Post
    You need big brakes. Lol As do I. P=MV
    Touche' fellow big man

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    Re: track prep for a Husky 701?

    Gas just Gas. I'm not trying to be funny, show up and ride it. That's the best part of a motard. If the chain rubs who cares anyway it makes 0% difference, you can't get a tard that low where it would hurt. Smaller tires are better on those bikes anyway. It has less mass and turns quicker. It's all torque not HP.

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    Re: track prep for a Husky 701?

    On the flip side, I raced at NHMS one weekend on my WR265ZD on a bone stock, 240mm fixed rotor with a stock caliper setup. Damn thing survived and did OK without noticeable fade but the rotor turned into a salad bowl when I took it off the wheel.

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    Re: track prep for a Husky 701?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kurlon View Post
    On the flip side, I raced at NHMS one weekend on my WR265ZD on a bone stock, 240mm fixed rotor with a stock caliper setup. Damn thing survived and did OK without noticeable fade but the rotor turned into a salad bowl when I took it off the wheel.
    Again... P=MV haha

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    Re: track prep for a Husky 701?

    Like others have said just ride it. You may have desire for a stronger front brake at some point but I bet it is super fun as is. Scope creep will become a problem if you are OCD enough.

    When I first got my motard I figured it would function off road well enough. It does and fire roads are a blast but in any real rough conditions it is simply way too stiff. Enduro and track suspensions are two different animals. Mine shines on the street/track but suffers off road. I wouldn't be surprised if yours was the opposite.

    None of that should stop you from having fun though.

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    Re: track prep for a Husky 701?

    I somehow managed to thread the needle with my old DRZ. I had it sprung stiff enough to hold up to a pretty decent pace on pavement, yet not suck in the woods. I even took it out on an MX course and found I could jump it without dying. I was pretty impressed. Somehow felt a little more confident running around my little backyard practice track on that thing than I did my KTM 200 "woods" bike. And I like to think I ran it pretty hard at track days and the like.

    The most annoying thing for me switching genres was gearing. Geared for a track day was clutch city in the woods. Geared for the woods was dangerously slow on pavement. Easy swaps were thwarted by chain length. I finally found a combination that let me use the same chain and front sprocket, but was a compromise for both kinds of riding.

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    Re: track prep for a Husky 701?

    Quote Originally Posted by nhbubba View Post
    Easy swaps were thwarted by chain length.
    I bet the Husky has that fancy reversible chain block thingy to account for gearing changes.

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    Re: track prep for a Husky 701?

    Quote Originally Posted by klp View Post
    I bet the Husky has that fancy reversible chain block thingy to account for gearing changes.
    That block is good for a tooth in the front, it’s not really going to cover the gap between dual sport and motard gearing, much less woods or motard gearing.

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    Re: track prep for a Husky 701?

    Quote Originally Posted by klp View Post
    I bet the Husky has that fancy reversible chain block thingy to account for gearing changes.
    Ooooh?!

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    Re: track prep for a Husky 701?

    Thanks guys. Any suggestions for gearing appropriate for Loudon / Canaan?

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