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    Re: Track toy for ol' bubs..


    Quote Originally Posted by Tunertype View Post
    What kinds of stuff can u take off an SV to drop 100lbs off the wet weight?
    According to the web, early SVs start with a wet weight under 420lbs. So it isn't really -100lbs to get to 350.

    Honestly, 350 seems pretty plausible.

    That said, I'd love to hear more about how that's done.

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    Re: Track toy for ol' bubs..

    Quote Originally Posted by nhbubba View Post
    According to the web, early SVs start with a wet weight under 420lbs. So it isn't really -100lbs to get to 350.

    Honestly, 350 seems pretty plausible.

    That said, I'd love to hear more about how that's done.
    Maybe the ninja 650 is around 450-460lbs. I thought they were around that but looked it up and the wiki seems to say they are the same weight as a 600 at 420-430 wet. Thought with a steel frame they were heavier. Still 70lbs is a lot. That's like the weight of an engine.

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    Re: Track toy for ol' bubs..

    The SV650 (and my DL650) has an aluminum frame. This is part of what makes it so cool. The early SV was a welded tube frame. The later frames are stamped.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzuki_SV650

    And smutty says I can't google shit!

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    Re: Track toy for ol' bubs..

    Quote Originally Posted by Tunertype View Post
    /From a noob perspective I did look at the SV. And may end up getting one, but you have to consider the overall cost to make it truely (sic) comparable. You will need to update the suspension at the very least. Cheap would be new springs and oil in the front and a zx10 or zx14 shock in the rear($75 springs, $10 oil, $150 rear shock, $235). But if you want brakes and real front suspension a GSXR front end swap is what your (sic) after and that will be about $350 off a wrecked GIXXAH! if your (sic) lucky and a Penske rear shock will set you back $500-$700. So if you pay $2500 for the SV and put $1,050 in suspension mods (nothing to the engine or body work yet) then your (sic) at $3,550 for a bike that is narrower than any I4 and has more torque throughout the entire rpm range and thus appeals to non-squids.
    FFY

    I put Racetech inserts, springs, aftermarket pads, and a Penske on my SV for something over $1,000. Like everyone else.

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    Re: Track toy for ol' bubs..

    Quote Originally Posted by nhbubba View Post
    The later frames are stamped.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzuki_SV650

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    Pressure cast frame.

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    SV guys. How many track days/races/whatever do you get out of a set of tires?

    Guy I work with insists that his buddy's wife's cousin's mechanic races an SV and spends $300/weekend on tires. "Oh yeah man, when you get fast enough, that's what happens."
    There's another guy in the office that used to track a Duc super-sport and he was right there agreeing with him.

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    Re: Track toy for ol' bubs..

    Quote Originally Posted by carsick View Post
    Pressure cast frame.
    My bad. But they were all aluminum, no steel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhbubba View Post
    SV guys. How many track days/races/whatever do you get out of a set of tires?

    Guy I work with insists that his buddy's wife's cousin's mechanic races an SV and spends $300/weekend on tires. "Oh yeah man, when you get fast enough, that's what happens."
    There's another guy in the office that used to track a Duc super-sport and he was right there agreeing with him.
    It depends on how fast you go. But I bet you know that. A set of tires per race weekend seems high to me but I'm not a fast expert. On the Hawk (similar hp to my stock SV) doing about 1:22's for a race season I'm going through 2-3 rears and a front or so per year. On the SV doing red/yellow group track days a set of new tires will probably last a year or more.

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    A year or more => how many days roughly?

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    12? Something like that I think is about where I'm at. Might be more.

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    Re: Track toy for ol' bubs..

    Bubs, get that SV. I have a set of race tires you can have for cheap that should last you a few days.

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    Re: Track toy for ol' bubs..

    Quote Originally Posted by TheIglu View Post
    Bubs, get that SV. I have a set of race tires you can have for cheap that should last you a few days.
    As we discussed, do this ^

    It's already been covered, but a set of race tires, soft front, med rear, should last a season or more of td's. once you start moving, then rears start going. I could confidently race on the front I have, and it's 2 seasons old. (Stored properly)

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    Re: Track toy for ol' bubs..

    Bonus if you can get it registered by Deals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chippertheripper View Post
    As we discussed, do this ^
    Yes dear.

    I think I've been sold on going track only. The 'strom will be my street legal rig. That's what I will be riding in NC.

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    Yes dear, I'll skip north cakalacka this year for a new bike.

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    Re: Track toy for ol' bubs..

    "Whisper on the breeze". 95 zx6r ... ;p

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheIglu View Post
    Bonus if you can get it registered by Deals.
    Are those race tires on rims and can I borrow them in a couple weeks? Also...can I borrow suspension? I can't bring myself to drop a grand or more on suspension for a bike that cost me just over two.

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    Re: Track toy for ol' bubs..

    Quote Originally Posted by Awesome View Post
    Are those race tires on rims and can I borrow them in a couple weeks? Also...can I borrow suspension? I can't bring myself to drop a grand or more on suspension for a bike that cost me just over two.
    They aren't michelins, Conti Race Attacks, just checked. They aren't on rims, but I have a tire changer....

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheIglu View Post
    They aren't michelins, Conti Race Attacks, just checked. They aren't on rims, but I have a tire changer....
    Was just checking if it was simple. If I have to keep the SV, suspension is the bigger concern, tires are an easy enough investment to justify. Know anyone that wants out of a 6/750/1000 and into a sweet SV and some cash and guns?

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    Quote Originally Posted by burnham View Post
    Man, that's pretty! I'd have to kick it off the stand at least once before riding it in 'anger'.

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    Re: Track toy for ol' bubs..

    That is a lot of bike lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by csmutty View Post
    Hey dude...feel free to borrow my gps doodad next time. Just say the word
    Saying the word. I will be there Thursday. Any chance I can borrow a doodad?

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    Re: Track toy for ol' bubs..

    It is done.



    It isn't just a track bike, nor just a sport bike, it is a fuckin' race bike. I have no fuggin' idea what I've gotten myself into. But my pants are tight!

    Big thanks to.. well, to all you clowns. But especially to Jason, Clayton, and Chipper for the side bars.

    The bike needs some work, and unfortunately I am going up north for some motorcycle camping for the rest of the weekend. But I really hope to have this cleaned up and ready to ride by the Thursday Penguin track day.

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    Re: Track toy for ol' bubs..

    That certainly qualifies as a track toy

    It has some rough bits, but some nice bits as well.

    The spensive items are basically covered. The bike. The suspension. You've even got rearsets and an exhaust. Even clip-ons and spares.

    Plastics (which look like fiberglass) can be repaired / bought in small pieces.
    Things like rubber, brakes, cables grips need some attention, but are relatively short money. There's lots of SV bits available in the used market as well.

    'Grats dood! LMK if you need help. I don't know shit about SV's but can run a wrench.

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