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How to move spare wheels safely?

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    How to move spare wheels safely?

    I feel a little embarassed for not being able to find the answer to this myself - seems like a fairly basic challenge that should have been solved enough times for google to help. But I can't find anything (surprisingly) so I am asking NESR.

    Challenge: Like many of you, I have to move my rain wheels back and forth each time I go to the track. The front wheel has expensive rotors on it, so I can't just strap them to the trailer floor by the side of the bike. I don't want to scuff up the wheels needlessly anyway, so strapping them naked to something doesn't work.

    Idea in my head (what I googled for unsuccessfully): A foam lined, hard shell case - either for both wheels together, or for one for each wheel. Pretty well insulated so that I can put my wheels in the cases and then not worry about where I put the cases themselves (roof basket, floor of open trailer etc.). Only option I came up with was Pelican cases and custom foam pads I have to cut to size. That just sounds like a thousand dollar project I don't want to take on.

    Anyone got any solutions to this very vexing first world problem? Solutions other than "leave them on the front seat, or stash them in the cabin, etc."

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    Re: How to move spare wheels safely?

    Probably a good idea to figure out how to do this. I have read that you can warp rotors by storing them rotors down. I put mine on the carpet in the back of the GTI, rear sprocket carrier side down first, then a bunch of packing paper over/around the rotor, then front wheel down on top of that. After finally getting to use them, I can confirm that a season of transporting them this way has not warped the front rotors.

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    Re: How to move spare wheels safely?

    Quote Originally Posted by Petorius View Post
    Probably a good idea to figure out how to do this. I have read that you can warp rotors by storing them rotors down. I put mine on the carpet in the back of the GTI, rear sprocket carrier side down first, then a bunch of packing paper over/around the rotor, then front wheel down on top of that. After finally getting to use them, I can confirm that a season of transporting them this way has not warped the front rotors.
    Glad someone else also thinks this is worth solving I currently have them going in the cabin (on the seat, carpet, standing up etc. etc.) but interior space is precious and used up very quickly by tools, large dog, sleeping gear, laptop etc.

    So I need an outdoor solution!

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    Re: How to move spare wheels safely?

    Blankets. No joke.

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    Re: How to move spare wheels safely?

    Isn't a common method to install extra tire chalks and strap spares in? Spindle-type mount hung like a cloths line, or building a small rack to keep them in.

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    Re: How to move spare wheels safely?

    I have take offs I put down, then I put the spare wheel on the take off. That keeps the rotors/sprockets/etc off the deck. If I need to save space, stack another take off on the spare, put another spare on top of the stack.

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    Re: How to move spare wheels safely?

    Cut some sonotube rings that fit over the rotors. Thinking 12" would fit the front really nicely, maybe 10" for the rear. You could even cut bayonet-mount-style slots in the rings that allow you to twist and lock the tubes into place over the spokes so that one tube can protect both front rotors.

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    Re: How to move spare wheels safely?

    I feel like a spode... I just put them in the back of the truck.......

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    Re: How to move spare wheels safely?

    Not the best pics, but I mounted mine to the vertical rails in the trailer. Saves floor space, no chance of damage. Big threaded nuts mean they come off in seconds when needed (no tools needed).


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    Thanks for the ideas guys. Maybe I wasn't clear in my request, looking for outdoor transport ideas - I have an open trailer and a roof basket on the truck.

    I need to look up what sonotube is, and the spare take offs sound like a nifty idea.

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    Re: How to move spare wheels safely?

    Does the open trailer have any sides at all?

    Do you have the floor space to put them down flat?

    The rear tire is generally easy as the rotor side can lay flat on the floor or wall. The simple way to protect the rotors of the front is two, 2x4's laid across the tire - building up an area for the rotors to sit safely.

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    Re: How to move spare wheels safely?

    Jim needs to post a pic of his trailer. thats the way I'd go with an open trailer.

    in my truck bed the rear wheel goes against the wheel well with the rotor facing in then the front wheels behind it at angle angle so its only touching the rear wheel and side of the bed with the tire keeping the rotors from touching anything. then I gotta get creative with the strap to keep them in place..

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    Re: How to move spare wheels safely?

    Quote Originally Posted by TTD View Post
    Does the open trailer have any sides at all?

    Do you have the floor space to put them down flat?

    The rear tire is generally easy as the rotor side can lay flat on the floor or wall. The simple way to protect the rotors of the front is two, 2x4's laid across the tire - building up an area for the rotors to sit safely.
    No sides Tony, but open floor space, yes - on either side of the front wheel of the bike. I like the idea of the 2x4s - maybe I just have to find a big enough box/case at home depot, put some blankets down in the bottom for the rear wheel, 2x4s, and load the front wheel on top of it and strap them to each other?

    I forgot to mention - One unintended advantage of a single sided swingarm is that the front wheel fits perfectly inside the large cavity of the rear wheel without that rotor making contact with anything - rear wheel has no rotor or sprocket on it. Its the top side of the front wheel I have to insulate and between 2x4s and sonotubes, there might be a few solutions! Thanks guys!

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    Re: How to move spare wheels safely?

    I carry mine stacked in the back of the wagon. Bit of cardboard between the wheels to protect the disks.

    Oxx has a pretty fly setup. He built a lockable utility box on the front of his open trailer that is sized to fit wheels and tires upright. I think he had dividers to keep the wheels from clanking around. I've been meaning to build something similar. He had tie down hooks on the backside of the box. Way mo' easier to load than my setup.

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    Re: How to move spare wheels safely?

    On an open trailer, you could use Tricky's setup but horizontal, use PVC tubing as spacers to make sure the rotors don't touch anything else...

    in my mind, a bolted vertical beam (of your choosing) with a horizontal "axle" onto which you place the wheels a la Tricky, for transport and storage may be the best solution...

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    Re: How to move spare wheels safely?

    Quote Originally Posted by CBR929RE View Post
    Jim needs to post a pic of his trailer. thats the way I'd go with an open trailer.

    link to build thread

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    Re: How to move spare wheels safely?

    Took me a second to identify the green thing. Nice

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    Re: How to move spare wheels safely?

    that's where i put my spare wheels

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    Re: How to move spare wheels safely?

    Quote Originally Posted by breakdirt916 View Post


    This is freaking brilliant!!

    I have two of those pingel chocks laying around and can easily set them up on the front of my open trailer on either side of my bike, and then just tie the wheels down. In fact, if I wanted to make it more buttoned up, I could pickup two of those $40 a piece locking front chocks from harbor freight and that way, both wheels will ride along locked on (I'd still tie them down)

    Thanks for sharing this!! Pics to follow soon

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    Re: How to move spare wheels safely?

    it was completely unnecessary, but it kept the rotors off the ground and allowed me to absolutely bomb around exit ramps without them being thrown around...but the bike was at home, so I thought - why not?

    the only issue is cranking down ratchet straps on your rims - may scratch paint...but hopefully you're not tying them down to withstand a tornado

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    Re: How to move spare wheels safely?

    like bubba said, i built a storage box on the front of my (5x10) trailer. i stand mine up inside with a take off front in between them. after i pile in chairs, stands, and tool box everything pretty much stays in place.
    you could try making a mount similar to turkey mikes but just on the side of the trailer.
    personally id need to see your trailer set up to form a more logical opinion

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    Re: How to move spare wheels safely?

    Quote Originally Posted by SVRACER01 View Post
    like bubba said, i built a storage box on the front of my (5x10) trailer. i stand mine up inside with a take off front in between them. after i pile in chairs, stands, and tool box everything pretty much stays in place.
    you could try making a mount similar to turkey mikes but just on the side of the trailer.
    personally id need to see your trailer set up to form a more logical opinion
    Due to living conditions in the city, I can only afford to store a "minimalist" trailer, that still needs to fold down and stand upright in a tight garage. Otherwise, I wouldn't have sold the nice two bike trailer that Degsy then resold. Anyway, you can see in the photo below that the left side of my current trailer has been modified to transport my bursig stand, right side to hold my Kolpin fuel pack. I did get "floors" welded on to the front, which is where I plan on doing what breakdirt posted a photo of. Only, I'll be mounting two harborfreight locking chocks and "chocking" my spare wheels to them with some soft loops/ratchet straps to secure. Although that would necessitate relocating/adding/welding new tie down points on the side of the trailer, which I can do.

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    Re: How to move spare wheels safely?

    ok. i see now.
    i could see something like this working pretty well. obviously not 2 high but basically a rod through the hub where the axle goes, and washer over the end with a hitch pin. you could weld or bolt it onto the tongue or just in front of the bike.
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    Re: How to move spare wheels safely?

    if you do the chocks, remember there a few different kinds:

    1.) permanent:



    2.) removable:



    3.) 3.5" for small street bikes, or dirt bikes:



    4.) 6-1/2" for bigger street bikes and cruisers:



    since you have a collapsing trailer, I recommend the 6-1/2" removable chocks. When I'm moving someone around, it's nice to be able to pull the chocks out in pinch, so I'd imagine the same convenience is applicable to help you with your storage situation

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