I have Vanson vent max and it has a CE rated back pad. I'm pretty sure the shoulder and elbow are too. I have one for sale if anyone is interested.
http://www.nestreetriders.com/forum/...es-jacket.html
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I have Vanson vent max and it has a CE rated back pad. I'm pretty sure the shoulder and elbow are too. I have one for sale if anyone is interested.
http://www.nestreetriders.com/forum/...es-jacket.html
I wear an Alpinestars T-GP-R Air Jacket. Great airflow and great protection after upgrading to the A*Stars Bionic chest and back protectors. I also like that it comes in white. Not sure why you would want an all black summer jacket.
Why black? Because that's 98% of what they sell. Especially on clearance and closeout.
I have that same jacket. I rode today for about an hour home from work. My bike read 97-98 most of the way home. I was also wearing Vanson riding jeans and a black helmet and black gloves. I really regret my helmet color choice. That aside I was hot, but not unbearable. I got caught in a little bit of traffic in Providence as well. I should add that I work outdoors all day so I am a little more comfortable outside than an office person.
On a side note: The high only hit 82 at my house in Fairhaven. I love the Ocean!
i went out for a bit this evening.
-helmet
-shorty gloves
-dickies shorts
-t shirt
-sneakers
it was nice as long as you werent stopped :D
I was riding all day in my 15 lbs of thick Vanson Cowhide. It was "warm" in waiting pit lane!
Seriously though, ANY mesh jacket is an AMAZING upgrade from regular ventilated gear. I have an alpinestars that does the job, but quality is a little lacking IMO. A buddy of mine got a really nice Frank Thomas mesh jacket. Much better quality. Get a silver/grey jacket. Reflects the heat a bit while stopped.
At some point, it's so hot that mesh stops working.
I felt like I was riding behind the worlds biggest hair dryer yesterday and I wonder if i would have been better off with a wind-barrier layer.
those both look nice
years ago when I was looking for a mesh jacket all the stuff I found looked incredibly flimsy. most notably the JR stuff. felt like I had as much protection as a t-shirt. Alpine Stars had just come out with T-Stunt Air which is the first version of this T=GP Air. much sturdier and its what I have. haven't worn it in years though.
In some cases, yes, a wind barrier is significantly better. Check out http://www.ldcomfort.com/productuse.htm
I have a Revvit! Ignition jacket. The front where your abs (or my gut) is full mesh. The shoulders and elbows are leather with CE armor. It's a great compromise for me. However I do reach a certain point where I would just rather drive than go change into under armor drawers, socks, jeans, then put the helmet jacket gloves and boots on.
wet t shirt
In the interest of safety and comfort I subjected myself to the last two days of commuting during peak heat times- 3-11P so that I can test a theory that relates to this thread.
Bike- 2006 BMW R1200RT, windshield highest position.
Wed-Temp to work, rte 495-100degrees! I wore Astars textile suit similar to this one but an older discontinued model with no venting- http://stores.sportbiketrackgear.com/Detail.bok?no=2819. Underneath I wore a long sleeve Pantagonia breathable lightweight base layer shirt, and Heavy cotton shorts. Of course riding boots and excellent Lee Parks deerskin summer gloves.
Thurs- Temp, 99 degrees. I wore a Firstgear Mesh jacket, Klim lightweight (I think they are actually for dirt riding) overpants with some venting in the thighs and crotch area, light armour. Nike Drytech (or whatever they call it) T shirt. Same shirts and gloves.
Results: I defineatly felt hotter today (Thurs) while riding. Toward the end of the ride I could really feel myself starting to sweat and feel really uncomfortable. I couldn't wait to get some water and get into the AC!!
Yesterday I was hot (hell it's hot out!!!) but the fact that the hot air wasn't getting to my core helped to keep me more comfortable.
I've always read that the professionals keep their skin covered when riding in temps HIGHER than their body temp, some even swear by leather even when it's super hot!! And by trying this little experiment, I've realised that they are correct. If the outside air temp is higher than your body temp it only makes sense that that air is going to raise your temp. If the air is slightly cooler (but I would guess that it would be best to be at least 10 degrees cooler) than yes vented/mesh gear would def. help to keep one cooler. I know that when I wear the mesh jacket in temps below 80 I really feel the cooling effects.
So, what have I learned? Well the dudes going the other way in tank tops and shorts were doing nothing constructive in trying to keep cooler (I won't even get into the safety part here)..........If you want to keep your core temp at it's absolute minimum---keep the HOT air off of it!
I've got all kinds of gear (I'm a gear junkie) so I might as well use it!
The biggest PITA of dressing this way when its 100 degrees---answering the same old "Hell, ain't you hot in all that shit?" when I get to work.
Oh well, live and learn.
Carry on......
Anyone have experience with this jacket? I found it on closeout but cant find a single review of it online. Very rare to see...
http://www.amazon.com/Scorpion-Urban.../dp/B003INIU2G
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I actually read a professional study about this recently. I'll try to find it so I can link you guys.
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Do they wear shorts and tank tops in the desert?
NO!!!
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If it's really hot sometimes I put a Cryopack under my jacket. Makes quite a difference. There's also a "freezable" vest you can buy, and some desert coolers that hold water and cool by evaporation.
Veskimo. I haven't used one but have heard good things about them. http://www.veskimo.com/
ya, well after riding in phoenix 365 days a year for 8 years in shorts and a t shirt im not all that concerned about riding here. ive paid my pavement dues and learned how to be a very good defensive rider.
i was out for cruise. if i plan on doing any "spirited" riding i dress accordingly.