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    When are you joining an MC and getting your vest?
    I'm thinking wunna those faux armored looking vests. Maybe SCUTTLEBUTTIN' on the back? No, HOPPYCOCK? Wait, CHEEKIE FELLOW?

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    I donít think the brakes are that bad! The components definitely donít suck.

    Suspension I can agree with. Although I think the biggest problem is the chassis. Were they to roll out an alloy chassis with a more modern design I bet they could work in more than 3Ē of rear travel and slash some weight at the same time.

    I have always romanticized air cooled motors. It wasnít until I was trapped in heavy traffic on 128 that I remembered why I do not miss the bandit 1200 I once had.
    Even my single rotor brakes aren't nearly as bad as I thought they'd be. I wouldn't say I was impressed, but they definitely exceeded my expectations.

    Quote Originally Posted by BSR6 View Post
    I went through the same experience in looking for my next bike last year and landed with a Harley for similar reasons.

    Not only are sport bikes uncomfortable, but I am constantly plagued with an urge to ride them like I'm on the track. That's what the bike is made for, that's what it wants. As I drifted into the standard segment I found the same to be true only to a lesser degree. Sport Tourers and Adventure bikes are too boring. While they are very comfortable and do everything well, that's kind of my issue with them. I wanted something interesting that has character.

    I ended up with a '99 FXDX (a Super Glide with a tach and dual front discs). It's a great mix of character and comfort. The worst part about owning a Harley is the demographic along side you. The general culture around these bikes is pathetic.

    The biggest issue I have with the bike after owning it for a year is the suspension. It should be a crime for a manufacturer to charge so much for a motorcycle and put such terrible suspension on it. I will be fixing this next summer.
    Ah yes...the "culture". I love how so many run out and get a Harley, then immediately replace every casual piece of clothing they get with black Harley branded EVERYTHING. And of course, the "we're better than you crowd".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoneman View Post
    I'm thinking wunna those faux armored looking vests. Maybe SCUTTLEBUTTIN' on the back? No, HOPPYCOCK? Wait, CHEEKIE FELLOW?
    https://giphy.com/gifs/7mI0mLnprQCOs

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    Re: Ya'll Ain't Never Gonna Believe It

    If you buy from a dealer-even used-the experience comes with an obligatory "tour". Focus is spent on service, apparel and the "chrome specialist". When we got to the apparel department she asked if I had any questions. I asked if they had any gear with armor in it...

    I felt like an idiot when she pointed out that all of the jackets they sell are set up to accept armor. She then showed me the armor packs. It was quality stuff. Sure looked like the latest rage D3 stuff. Had a "CE rated" sticker on it. Definitely wasn't the horseshit I expected. And wasn't even priced that absurdly.

    I thanked her and decided I'd stop being a smug smart-ass for at least a minute or two.

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    Re: Ya'll Ain't Never Gonna Believe It

    Quote Originally Posted by Stoneman View Post
    I'm thinking wunna those faux armored looking vests. Maybe SCUTTLEBUTTIN' on the back? No, HOPPYCOCK? Wait, CHEEKIE FELLOW?
    Bucket of Dildo?

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    FWIW I have been told many times over the years that State Farm is one of the better insurance companies out there. All companies have issues from time to time so you have to keep that in mind. Progressive is generally viewed as more of your average company. After hearing stories about better insurance companies (Amica and Hartford) sometimes I consider paying a little more and going with a more reputable option.

    My understanding is that things really come to the surface when you need your insurance (filing a claim etc.). A few years back my dad (who uses Amica) had a small run in with a moose that left some damage to his passenger side headlight. He barely hit it as he was almost at a complete stop when he made contact, which left a dent on the corner of his hood and knocked his headlight out of position. The adjuster came to assess it and noticed the driver side light wasn't quite right. It had nothing to do with the moose collision as it was nowhere near where the moose made contact. He only noticed it because he popped the hood to compare some of the damage on the inside to the "good" side for reference. Apparently the driver side had been fixed before (before my dad owned the vehicle) but the work was sloppy. Not only did they fix the damage from the moose collision, they also went in to the other side of the front end and fixed everything that was done wrong there too (the shop found more issues on that side when they dug into it). This was work that Amica pointed out and offered to fix. My dad had no idea, and wouldn't have known had they not brought it to his attention.

    Some food for thought. It's easy to take good insurance for granted. Those who've learned the lesson will tell you it's worth paying the extra money. I have progressive at the moment and they have been fine, but I've also not had to file any claims.

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    Re: Ya'll Ain't Never Gonna Believe It

    Is the plural for Dildo, well, uh, Dildus?

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    How tall is too tall for a sportster?

    My soul will die if I buy a Harley but...

    That deal that whatever u spend on a sporty they give you toward another bike in a year is tempting...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gixxer View Post
    How tall is too tall for a sportster?

    My soul will die if I buy a Harley but...

    That deal that whatever u spend on a sporty they give you toward another bike in a year is tempting...
    It's a full sized bike. Just because the "old skool" bikers call it a girls doesn't mean it's small or is lacking in fun. It just happens to be lighter then the "big" harleys. If I had room an money I could see one in my garage. If you feel you're a giant then go to a harley dealer and sit on one. If the end goal is a new softail or touring bike then I don't see what a year on a sporty can hurt. Sadly though the dyna is gone

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    Quote Originally Posted by union View Post
    It's a full sized bike. Just because the "old skool" bikers call it a girls doesn't mean it's small or is lacking in fun. It just happens to be lighter then the "big" harleys. If I had room an money I could see one in my garage. If you feel you're a giant then go to a harley dealer and sit on one. If the end goal is a new softail or touring bike then I don't see what a year on a sporty can hurt. Sadly though the dyna is gone
    I have a soft spot for the Forty Eight.

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    I actually like the 1200 Customs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gixxer View Post
    I have a soft spot for the Forty Eight.
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    I actually like the 1200 Customs!
    I liked the 72 when they made it. It had the old look to it kind of what I remember my dad having when I was little.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gixxer View Post
    How tall is too tall for a sportster?///..
    They are not small bikes: 550 lbs, 90Ē long. Riding position varies a lot, as some have forward controls, and lots have higher handlebars.

    Iím 6í1 now. Had the seat built up and used some lower bars. It was comfortable enough.



    The wide engine cases limit handling clearance (despite full-length shocks on the Roadster: the lowered bikes are even worse). Fuel range was frustratingly low, very little cargo capacity (I added a tail rack), stock suspension is low-Spec, minimal passenger seat. Found myself riding other bikes more often and sold it after a few months. IIRC averaged 44mpg and had no maintenance issues.

    The guy I sold it to took no notice that the Roadster had a tach, dual front disks, and full-length suspension, he just wanted a Harley.

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    NESR vests! This is going to be great, I have waited many years for this.

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    Nice one Jay
    I love my 97 dyna.
    Does nothing well
    slow as molasses
    Shakes the shit outta itself
    but I love it, puts a grin on my face every time I ride it.
    But I really really like my road glide

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    Re: Ya'll Ain't Never Gonna Believe It

    So what's everyone using for lifts/stands to service these pigs? Will the $170 Harbor Freight jobbie work? Only thing I don't see on those are tie-down points. Any other reasonably priced lifts out there that'll fit the bill for occasional use?

    Set-up a total redneck lift & strap system last night to change the front tire. Definitely need to step that up! On that note, I watched a guy stand literally in front of his Snap On tire changer and swap that skinny-ass tire by hand on his work bench. The whole time I offered to slap it on the tire changer and take care of it, but he insisted on doing it his way. Cost me a bottle of Tito's, some of Big Shirl's lasagna & a Boston Cream pie (don't ask).

    Oh...and what the fuck is with standard and metric on these things?!? Because of our redneck lift & strap system, I had to remove the caliper. Everything is standard except for the 12pt. caliper bolts. Unless those are some weird Harley only bolts that they try to make you buy a special tool for?

    So...what are we using for lifts?

    EDIT: Sample from Harbor Freight: https://www.harborfreight.com/1500-l...BoCoikQAvD_BwE

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    I assume you mean this HF jack?
    Yeah, that'll work. I have an older, shittier steel jack of that same style that I've used to lift my Road King.
    It is okay. I got it for free (NESR pickup, actually) and that's about what I think its worth.
    You don't need tie downs, really. The Harleys with their double cradle steel frames are pretty stable on that kind of jack. Take your time getting it positioned right and you'll be fine.

    Honestly I'm probably done using that jack unless it's something quick. I've decided I'd much rather load the thing up on my lift table for any real service work. It's the best thing since they started slicing bread and takes the RK just fine. All the usual advice applies; the wheel chock works, but is shitty. But having the bike and work surface elevated is so money. I highly recommend picking one up, if you have the means.

    Also may I recommend a low-profile oil pan. I cannot over-emphasize how amazingly low to the ground that frame is and how hard it can be to get a pan under it for draining oil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhbubba View Post
    I assume you mean this HF jack?
    Yeah, that'll work. I have an older, shittier steel jack of that same style that I've used to lift my Road King.
    It is okay. I got it for free (NESR pickup, actually) and that's about what I think its worth.
    You don't need tie downs, really. The Harleys with their double cradle steel frames are pretty stable on that kind of jack. Take your time getting it positioned right and you'll be fine.

    Honestly I'm probably done using that jack unless it's something quick. I've decided I'd much rather load the thing up on my lift table for any real service work. It's the best thing since they started slicing bread and takes the RK just fine. All the usual advice applies; the wheel chock works, but is shitty. But having the bike and work surface elevated is so money. I highly recommend picking one up, if you have the means.

    Also may I recommend a low-profile oil pan. I cannot over-emphasize how amazingly low to the ground that frame is and how hard it can be to get a pan under it for draining oil.
    I simply don't have room for the lift table. I'd love to have one, just limited by space. Those don't seem very helpful in removing tires though.

    I have more oil drain pans than I can count. Using a jack lift, I'm sure one of them will easily slide under it.

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    I have several too, but it was a struggle. The jack is where you want to put the pan. The pan won't fit without the bike jacked.
    I'm a giant baffoon. I can manage to put oil on the floor no matter what. Maybe not as much an issue for everyone else.

    This jack makes tire swaps on a lift table cake. There is a drop out plate under the rear tire for extra hard to deal with bikes like my RK. Although I believe I will still have to remove the exhaust to get access to the axle. We will see.

    It's dreamy to be able to pull a wheel from a bike at torso height, rather than bending over and swearing. The scissor jack lets you fine tune the height of the bike so the axle lines right up without even lifting the wheel. As I say, dreamy. Next best thing to having all the spacers and such captive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhbubba View Post
    I have several too, but it was a struggle. The jack is where you want to put the pan. The pan won't fit without the bike jacked.
    I'm a giant baffoon. I can manage to put oil on the floor no matter what. Maybe not as much an issue for everyone else.

    This jack makes tire swaps on a lift table cake. There is a drop out plate under the rear tire for extra hard to deal with bikes like my RK. Although I believe I will still have to remove the exhaust to get access to the axle. We will see.

    It's dreamy to be able to pull a wheel from a bike at torso height, rather than bending over and swearing. The scissor jack lets you fine tune the height of the bike so the axle lines right up without even lifting the wheel. As I say, dreamy. Next best thing to having all the spacers and such captive.
    Okay, the lift table is out. So let's scratch that conversation. At least until after we build the new house.

    I'll probably grab that HF jack and devise yet another ingenious system for a drain pan. I know as it sits, I only have about 5" clearance under there.

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    Re: Ya'll Ain't Never Gonna Believe It

    Maybe savabuck with a steel one?
    Or scope the FB/CL for a 2nd hand one? Seems there are always a few out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhbubba View Post
    Maybe savabuck with a steel one?
    Or scope the FB/CL for a 2nd hand one? Seems there are always a few out there.
    Nah...for the money, I'll just grab a new HF one. We'll figure it out from there, it's how I roll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheIglu View Post
    Is the plural for Dildo, well, uh, Dildus?
    Dildi?

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    Re: Ya'll Ain't Never Gonna Believe It

    I use the craftsman motorcycle/atv red jack its for sale for 117 right now at sears. They also make a light weight aluminum version for 180. I've been happy with it. Combined with the Harley frame protectors which helps level the bike on the lift. They are part #94675-99. I may have enough of my set left for you if you want some.


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