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    really wish the ex500 had some simple bolt ons to convert it into an adv bike

    was out last night zinging it on the freeways and was able to go just fast enough to pass almost any car....went to a stunt spot thursday and was carrying some 1st gear clutch ups, and raced a Civic Si and beat him

    hmm...after re-reading my post, the T7 is definitely not for me

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    Re: Yamaha FZ-07 based mini-Tenere

    I took the Duke 790 out for a ride last week. The bike was a trade in at Wagner. The engine left me feeling meh. It didn't have the low end toque of a single. I felt it was more like a Ducati 800 twin than a KTM pump. Made me go put a deposit on the Yamaha for next year. I think the 44Teeth review was spot on for what I am looking for. A softer more comfortable cheaper 790 ADV.

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    Re: Yamaha FZ-07 based mini-Tenere

    Quote Originally Posted by ducatirdr View Post
    It didn't have the low end toque of a single. I felt it was more like a Ducati 800 twin than a KTM pump.
    What do you mean a "KTM pump"? The 790 is a parallel twin. Isn't going like a Ducati 800 a good thing?

    I've not ridden any of these. But FWIW all of the reviews (I've watched a few) indicate the tuning delta between the 790 Duke and 790 ADV is substantial; ADV being tuned for more poke down-low, less up-stairs.

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    Maybe it was riding my Harley into the dealership that day. The 110 ci Lowrider S has some foot pounds to play with and it probably made the 790 feel a bit revvy rather than typical KTM stump pulling, low end torque. My brief wheelie test showed it to be a bit high strung to compared to a 690 motor. The 790 ADV-R is the bike everyone wants. Why KTM made that bike =1 to every 4 of the 790 base is beyond me. They should have made it the other way around! The base models are sitting at dealers.

    The T7 is cheaper. Doesn't have the whiz bang electronics that I would more than likely shut off. It looks better. I don't like the pregnant look of the 790. While it probably works better it looks too bizarre for even me. The 790 seat I hear is an old fashion all day seat. I would be happy to find that on any KTM.

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    Re: Yamaha FZ-07 based mini-Tenere

    The advr definitely has less off the bottom than a traditional lc8 twin, but it’s nothing your wrist and clutch hand won’t find intuitive within the first ten miles.
    Looks are totally subjective. I definitely think the world raid proto looks better, but what they’ve shown as the production bike has the same 80’s cruiser (magna, Vulcan, etc) lines about the tank that I’m not into at all.
    As for electronic nanny aids, I don’t have enough interface/seat time with them yet to really have a strong opinion. I will say, it’s annoying to go into rally mode and not automatically get off-road abs. You still have to go back and switch the abs separately. The throttle response profile defaults (I think) to whatever it was left at in that mode, so the only real benefit is the adjustable tc on the fly. Those other 2 items are menu accessible, but involves backing up to get to them.
    Electronic cruise was most defintely a big seller for me on this one though. That was absolutely mandatory for any bike I was buying myself for my 40th. Now if the switch module would produce itself...

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    I'm excited to hear that someone here has some money down on a T7. I'm pretty confident it is going to be a very solid ADV machine. I'm still just a bit crusty about the rollout.. especially here in the US. Dafuq!

    Re: torque. You think the ~700cc Yamaha is going to be any different here? Same config, similar displacement, etc.
    I think I've bought into the marketing because the concept of the "c" in the LC8c moniker is getting to me. Compact twin with twin characteristics in a package only a bit bigger than a thumper? Cool.
    You say it spins like a Ducati 800? Perfect.


    Looks. I think I hear what chipper is on about re: the T7 looks. I guess I just don't care. Ditto for the 790 ADV tank. I'm fine with it.
    But then I daily loved a DL650 for 7 years. Clearly my tastes are suspect.


    I hear you on the 790 ADV vs ADV-R thing. Is it really 4:1? I can't believe many would not find the extra $1k for the -R. Seems like the suspension alone is worth it. 10% more $.. fuggit.
    Wonder if there won't be some .. uh .. flexibility in the 790 ADV standard pricing before long. Maybe some dealers will get creative and stick KTM's $5000 accessory "pro" suspension on a leftover standard to move the bike (at a premium of course). That'd be interesting.

    I haven't even seen the bike in person yet. But I think I really want a 790 ADV-R. I think this is the unicorn I have been after. I have no rational reason for wanting such a machine. But, fuggit. Ready to go back to a garage of just one.

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    Yes the looks are subjective and yes that swoop cruiser style tank does leave a bit of an 80's vibe. Also your point on cruise control being a must have.... Ouch! That is something I use if even for a short period to rest my right shoulder.... That has me thinking...

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    Sounds good!

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    Re: Yamaha FZ-07 based mini-Tenere

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    Sounds good!
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    Re: Yamaha FZ-07 based mini-Tenere

    It does indeed have a little more bark than the stock ktm.

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    Re: Yamaha FZ-07 based mini-Tenere

    You see the rally edition? It looks sick, ala 1984 it175. No real improvements in the suspension dept for that, but it looks dope and has a skid plate.

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    Re: Yamaha FZ-07 based mini-Tenere

    Quote Originally Posted by Chippertheripper View Post
    You see the rally edition? It looks sick, ala 1984 it175. No real improvements in the suspension dept for that, but it looks dope and has a skid plate.
    I admit some movement may have occurred.

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    Re: Yamaha FZ-07 based mini-Tenere

    The most exciting news is that you could rent it at eaglerider. I almost did on a trip to the PNW two weeks ago, but it was not ready. I plan to in the future. FortNight is hilarious. You should watch his reviews. Some are spot on.

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    Re: Yamaha FZ-07 based mini-Tenere

    Quote Originally Posted by Chippertheripper View Post
    You see the rally edition? It looks sick, ala 1984 it175. No real improvements in the suspension dept for that, but it looks dope and has a skid plate.
    I agree. The IT colorway is very nice. They should bring it back for their entire WR series. Unfortunately, I have read that the Rally Edition will not be coming to the US...

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    Re: Yamaha FZ-07 based mini-Tenere

    Definitely not this year, although I’m not totally up on if any of the regular t7’s have landed yet.
    I think advpulse had a quick snippet the other day on it, but beyond looking at the few pics, and trying to see what the upgrades were, I didn’t read it too thoroughly.

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    Re: Yamaha FZ-07 based mini-Tenere

    A few people have gotten them in the US, according to ADVRider anyways.

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    I've about written the entire T7 off. They lost my interest hyping it too early and then not pricing it competitively enough. I'd rather just save a little longer or go in debt and land a 790 ADV-R at this point. The ADV-R checks all the boxes right out of the crate this thing misses on; namely better suspension and available cruise. Why compromise over a few $k. If a used T7 along with a few $k knocked off then maybe. But not at full retail.

    Website finally says June 2020 for the US. So I guess they are in peoples hands now?!

    That F9's review does fuel the hype very well. Surprised he liked it that much.

    Has he done a 790 ADV-R yet? I haven't seen one yet.

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    Re: Yamaha FZ-07 based mini-Tenere

    I have a deposit on a preorder T7, dealer's computer says it'll be delivered "first half of July". According to the forums I'm on there are a few hundred in the USA, most in the west and south. I've been looking forward to this for a while. Sold my FJ09 back in March. Waiting sucks.....

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    jimmy lewis liked it too!

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    Re: Yamaha FZ-07 based mini-Tenere

    Quote Originally Posted by Baggey22 View Post
    I have a deposit on a preorder T7, dealer's computer says it'll be delivered "first half of July". According to the forums I'm on there are a few hundred in the USA, most in the west and south. I've been looking forward to this for a while. Sold my FJ09 back in March. Waiting sucks.....
    I was going to rent the T7 in Seattle but it wasnít ready so had a tracer 900 for 1900 miles. Next year Iíll try the T7

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    Re: Yamaha FZ-07 based mini-Tenere

    Some Auzie put this together.

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    That works nicely for me. Quite nicely..

    Also this motorcycle looks SO. MUCH. BETTER. with a high fender.

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    Re: Yamaha FZ-07 based mini-Tenere

    Those are cool looking graphics.

    Has anyone seen a T7 in the flesh that was NOT a demo or show bike? I don't think any have made it to the east for sale yet. I am glad I bought my 790ADV-R this past January. I've had over 3500 miles of wheelies, powerline and jeep trails riding and the thing just keeps delivering the goods. It would have more mileage but I am a multi bike owner so this thing was used for bashing and not normal street riding.

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    Re: Yamaha FZ-07 based mini-Tenere

    I have not seen one except on yoootooobes. (I have a toddler, I watch a lot of yootoobes.) And most of those cats are on another continent.

    You were the closest thing I knew to an owner in the US.

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    Re: Yamaha FZ-07 based mini-Tenere

    Quote Originally Posted by ducatirdr View Post
    Those are cool looking graphics.

    Has anyone seen a T7 in the flesh that was NOT a demo or show bike? I don't think any have made it to the east for sale yet. I am glad I bought my 790ADV-R this past January. I've had over 3500 miles of wheelies, powerline and jeep trails riding and the thing just keeps delivering the goods. It would have more mileage but I am a multi bike owner so this thing was used for bashing and not normal street riding.
    Not seen in the flesh, but a few people from NH/VT have posted pics of theirs in this thread.

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