Welcome to NESR! Most features of this site require registration, including replying to threads, sending private messages, starting new threads, and uploading files. Click here to register.

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 29

Flattrack - what am I missing?

  1. #1
    Mophead going grey dontpanic's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Danvers, MA
    Age
    57
    Posts
    1,321

    Flat track - what am I missing?


    Mkay....

    I arrived at 3:50 and left at 8:20, so that's 4 1/2 hours.

    I watched four 8-lap heat races, so that's 32 laps. Watched one 18-lap race. Watched one 25-lap race. Total of 75 laps of racing.

    Each flying lap was about 20 seconds, or one-third of a minute. That's a total of 25 minutes of racing over a 4-hour period.

    And for this I paid $40. (That's $96 per hour, BTW.)

    Why do people watch this $h!t?

    </rant>

    0 Not allowed!
    Last edited by dontpanic; 06-16-19 at 05:50 PM.
    Go fast. Have fun. Repeat.

  2. #2
    Burns retinas nhbubba's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Seacoast NH
    Posts
    16,033

    Re: Flattrack - what am I missing?

    Wait. How did you get $5 off?!?

    0 Not allowed!

  3. #3
    Lifer tsorfas's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    in my own little world...
    Posts
    9,852

    Re: Flattrack - what am I missing?

    Quote Originally Posted by nhbubba View Post
    Wait. How did you get $5 off?!?
    There were promo codes flying around.

    Rant score 2.5/10

    0 Not allowed!

  4. #4
    Senior Member MUZ720's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2015
    Posts
    718

    Re: Flattrack - what am I missing?

    Thought the racing was good! Nice to see a good crowd looked like Loudon of old only older and tamer, To bad the track was not up to it and got tried of watching the grader and roller go around and around. After three hours of that I was done. Better stands and scoring tower that worked would be helpful! Not sure its worth 45 bucks glad I got discount tickets!!

    0 Not allowed!

  5. #5
    Lifer Kurlon's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2007
    Location
    Waterboro ME
    Age
    41
    Posts
    12,544

    Re: Flattrack - what am I missing?

    If you were not entertained when the bikes were on track battling I question how you survive without a pulse or breathing? The passes, dives, bar banging, etc when they were on track was awesome. I agree, lots of down time due to track maint, but that's to be expected with a virgin track that hasn't had time to get bedded in yet.

    4 Not allowed!
    771 Racing -=- FaceBook
    Backed by Heroic Racing Apparel / Warp9 Racing
    Mistake - 1992 WR250ZD / 2000 LS650P

  6. #6
    Super Moderator OreoGaborio's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Location
    MA
    Age
    39
    Posts
    36,725

    Re: Flattrack - what am I missing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kurlon View Post
    If you were not entertained when the bikes were on track battling I question how you survive without a pulse or breathing? The passes, dives, bar banging, etc when they were on track was awesome. I agree, lots of down time due to track maint, but that's to be expected with a virgin track that hasn't had time to get bedded in yet.
    Completely agree. For a once a year thing, if they give fellow LRRS racers discounts, I'd be in for it next year again, no doubt. (LC10 was the discount to get tix at 32 bucks each online.)

    1 Not allowed!
    -Pete LRRS/CCS #82 - ECK Racing, TonysTrackDays, Ironstone Ventures
    GMD Computrack Boston | Pine Motorparts/PBE Specialists | Phoenix Graphics | Woodcraft | Street & Competition | MTag-Pirelli | OnTrack Media

    The Garage: '03 Tuono | '06 SV650

  7. #7
    WMC original sdog30's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Burgy
    Age
    44
    Posts
    2,730

    Re: Flattrack - what am I missing?

    I figured it out. It's Nascar for motorcycles.

    It was nice to see the turn out. Would have been even better if they stayed to watch the road racing.

    I think the view point helps, too. When I was sitting at ground level, it was hard to get into. At the top of the bleachers, you could see the whole track and it made it better to watch. The track needs to make the screen 4 times bigger.

    0 Not allowed!

    12 Ducati Multi, 17 Husky FS450, 15 KX450F sumo, 15 Husky 250SXF tard, 14 KTM 250SXF

    LRRS/CCS #66
    Thank you to my sponsors: Sidi / AMSOIL / Klutch Industries

  8. #8
    Burns retinas nhbubba's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Seacoast NH
    Posts
    16,033

    Re: Flattrack - what am I missing?

    Quote Originally Posted by sdog30 View Post
    I figured it out. It's Nascar for motorcycles.
    That seems a bit harsh. I thought the racing was cool as hell.
    It is pretty neat being able to see the entire track at once. One problem with watching road-racing in person is you only see a few corners. Suddenly there is a huge lead change or shakeup on the far side of the track and you never know what happened.

    I agree re: the stands vs the rail. Although the experience from the rail was cool as well. You could really .. taste the racing!

    I missed the classic (MWGP) this year as I only have so much time, went to this instead. Next year I'll invert those priorities and make sure I see the road-race. Everything else will be if I can.



    On a semi-related note. How was the sumo event this year? I walked those pits early Saturday afternoon and didn't recognize but a few people except for the Taylor clan.

    0 Not allowed!

  9. #9
    WMC original sdog30's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Burgy
    Age
    44
    Posts
    2,730

    Re: Flattrack - what am I missing?

    Quote Originally Posted by nhbubba View Post
    That seems a bit harsh.

    On a semi-related note. How was the sumo event this year? I walked those pits early Saturday afternoon and didn't recognize but a few people except for the Taylor clan.
    The nascar comment is in reference to the fact they just go around an oval over and over. Seems to draw the same crowd a little bit too.

    The sumo was fun. The track was set up pretty good. The were several boxshop people and the Franco's were fully represented. A handful of loudon racers and the rest were smec guys.

    The price was a little high and no real payout (top 3 for the pro classes) so I think that kept more lrrs racers from participating. They ran a kid's group though. I'm sure the track gouged him on renting that lot, so I'd be surprised if Jay made money on it.

    Scheduling wise, AMA supermoto had a round in Austin this weekend, so I know several people that went there instead. Also, he was trying to work around the flat track, the classic and motard and sportsman on Sunday, so hence, the weird Saturday morning slot. Definitely hindered viewing and participating from lrrs racers. Would have been nice to have some stands for people to sit in, too.

    1 Not allowed!

    12 Ducati Multi, 17 Husky FS450, 15 KX450F sumo, 15 Husky 250SXF tard, 14 KTM 250SXF

    LRRS/CCS #66
    Thank you to my sponsors: Sidi / AMSOIL / Klutch Industries

  10. #10
    Burns retinas nhbubba's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Seacoast NH
    Posts
    16,033

    Re: Flattrack - what am I missing?

    That's right. They swiped stands from both T6 and the motard lot.
    Shows where they figured the money would be. (My observation is they were right.)

    0 Not allowed!

  11. #11
    Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Location
    CT
    Posts
    150

    Re: Flattrack - what am I missing?

    I enjoyed it. And yes, it is NASCAR for motorcycles.

    I may not drive more than two hours to go see it, but I certainly thought the racing was good. The track was insanely bumpy which made it exciting to watch who could set up for it, navigate it, and ride it the best.

    I just wish the track had been a little less bumpy, and had a bit more of a straight to let the engines come through at full power somewhat.

    0 Not allowed!

  12. #12
    Lifer tsorfas's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    in my own little world...
    Posts
    9,852

    Re: Flattrack - what am I missing?

    Quote Originally Posted by sdog30 View Post
    The nascar comment is in reference to the fact they just go around an oval over and over. Seems to draw the same crowd a little bit too.

    The sumo was fun. The track was set up pretty good. The were several boxshop people and the Franco's were fully represented. A handful of loudon racers and the rest were smec guys.

    The price was a little high and no real payout (top 3 for the pro classes) so I think that kept more lrrs racers from participating. They ran a kid's group though. I'm sure the track gouged him on renting that lot, so I'd be surprised if Jay made money on it.

    Scheduling wise, AMA supermoto had a round in Austin this weekend, so I know several people that went there instead. Also, he was trying to work around the flat track, the classic and motard and sportsman on Sunday, so hence, the weird Saturday morning slot. Definitely hindered viewing and participating from lrrs racers. Would have been nice to have some stands for people to sit in, too.
    The classic weekend schedule was a total joke this year

    0 Not allowed!

  13. #13
    Super Moderator OreoGaborio's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Location
    MA
    Age
    39
    Posts
    36,725

    Re: Flattrack - what am I missing?

    Quote Originally Posted by tsorfas View Post
    The classic weekend schedule was a total joke this year
    Considering there were THREE different sanctioning bodies running THREE different racing events at the same location on the same weekend, I think they did a pretty fair job of coordinating. It wasn't perfect, but deal with it.


    Did you even come up for it?

    1 Not allowed!
    Last edited by OreoGaborio; 06-17-19 at 11:39 PM.
    -Pete LRRS/CCS #82 - ECK Racing, TonysTrackDays, Ironstone Ventures
    GMD Computrack Boston | Pine Motorparts/PBE Specialists | Phoenix Graphics | Woodcraft | Street & Competition | MTag-Pirelli | OnTrack Media

    The Garage: '03 Tuono | '06 SV650

  14. #14
    WMC original sdog30's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Burgy
    Age
    44
    Posts
    2,730

    Re: Flattrack - what am I missing?

    I have to agree with Pete. There was so much going on, you were almost forced to pick some things over others. So even though we didn't have a ton of spectators for the supermoto race, it scheduled in nice for me. I only had 1 race Friday, and 2 Sunday with lrrs, so it worked out real good.

    Actually, I think it was 4 race bodies...lrrs, asra, smec and ama.

    0 Not allowed!

    12 Ducati Multi, 17 Husky FS450, 15 KX450F sumo, 15 Husky 250SXF tard, 14 KTM 250SXF

    LRRS/CCS #66
    Thank you to my sponsors: Sidi / AMSOIL / Klutch Industries

  15. #15
    Super Moderator OreoGaborio's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Location
    MA
    Age
    39
    Posts
    36,725

    Re: Flattrack - what am I missing?

    Quote Originally Posted by sdog30 View Post
    Actually, I think it was 4 race bodies...lrrs, asra, smec and ama.
    Ah yep. That'd be correct. And that's just the two wheeled events. We forgot about the Moat Mountain/bandaleros peeps, too.

    0 Not allowed!
    Last edited by OreoGaborio; 06-18-19 at 06:51 AM.
    -Pete LRRS/CCS #82 - ECK Racing, TonysTrackDays, Ironstone Ventures
    GMD Computrack Boston | Pine Motorparts/PBE Specialists | Phoenix Graphics | Woodcraft | Street & Competition | MTag-Pirelli | OnTrack Media

    The Garage: '03 Tuono | '06 SV650

  16. #16
    Soul Rider Paul_E_D's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    western, MA
    Age
    49
    Posts
    13,742

    Re: Flattrack - what am I missing?

    1. Flat track racing is a far better spectator sport LIVE than roadracing. Standing near the track with the exhaust pulses hitting you and wave after wave of roost in the face is awesome!

    2. The green track meant that it was too bumpy for the real sideways specialists to shine. Over the years as the track comes in it should get better and better.

    3. Go to WVRC and try flat track for yourself. 40 bucks for a day of riding. Then come back and watch. I guarantee a different response to it.

    4. This was by faaarrrr the best classic in a long time, simply because there was more going on, more people watching, more participants in LRRS, more youth presence, just more. It's a BIG step in the right direction towards reviving a dying sport.

    3 Not allowed!
    Paul_E_D


  17. #17
    Super Moderator OreoGaborio's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2004
    Location
    MA
    Age
    39
    Posts
    36,725

    Re: Flattrack - what am I missing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_E_D View Post
    4. This was by faaarrrr the best classic in a long time, simply because there was more going on, more people watching, more participants in LRRS, more youth presence, just more. It's a BIG step in the right direction towards reviving a dying sport.
    100%

    0 Not allowed!
    -Pete LRRS/CCS #82 - ECK Racing, TonysTrackDays, Ironstone Ventures
    GMD Computrack Boston | Pine Motorparts/PBE Specialists | Phoenix Graphics | Woodcraft | Street & Competition | MTag-Pirelli | OnTrack Media

    The Garage: '03 Tuono | '06 SV650

  18. #18
    Lifer tsorfas's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    in my own little world...
    Posts
    9,852

    Re: Flattrack - what am I missing?

    Quote Originally Posted by OreoGaborio View Post
    Considering there were THREE different sanctioning bodies running THREE different racing events at the same location on the same weekend, I think they did a pretty fair job of coordinating. It wasn't perfect, but deal with it.


    Did you even come up for it?
    No. Cole decided last minute to enter it but my little one had different plans for us.

    Yes seeing it from all the other racing happening I agree they did a decent job. Looking at it exclusively from LRRS stand point not so much.

    0 Not allowed!

  19. #19
    Lifer Pittenger5's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Austin
    Age
    38
    Posts
    15,227

    Re: Flattrack - what am I missing?

    Quote Originally Posted by sdog30 View Post
    Scheduling wise, AMA supermoto had a round in Austin this weekend,
    Dammit, how did I miss that one

    0 Not allowed!
    Zip Tie Alley #505

    Quote Originally Posted by Pookie View Post
    My favorite was you going through T2 with your eyes closed.

  20. #20
    WMC original sdog30's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Burgy
    Age
    44
    Posts
    2,730

    Re: Flattrack - what am I missing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pittenger5 View Post
    Dammit, how did I miss that one
    Not sure. They've gone there for the last couple years.

    Jake LaForge was third in the dash for cash Friday and second in pro open on Saturday. My buddy Pete Oliver was second in pro lights.

    1 Not allowed!

    12 Ducati Multi, 17 Husky FS450, 15 KX450F sumo, 15 Husky 250SXF tard, 14 KTM 250SXF

    LRRS/CCS #66
    Thank you to my sponsors: Sidi / AMSOIL / Klutch Industries

  21. #21
    Lifer Not Sure's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    NH
    Posts
    1,232

    Re: Flat track - what am I missing?

    Quote Originally Posted by dontpanic View Post
    I paid $40. (That's $96 per hour, BTW.)
    Well if you want to feel better do the same math for tickets to a Pats or Red Sox game against the actual amount of playing time you see. You’ll view this event as a bargain.

    0 Not allowed!

  22. #22
    Lifer Pittenger5's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Austin
    Age
    38
    Posts
    15,227

    Re: Flattrack - what am I missing?

    I wonder how "good" the amateur / sportsman classes are. Wishful thinking.

    0 Not allowed!
    Zip Tie Alley #505

    Quote Originally Posted by Pookie View Post
    My favorite was you going through T2 with your eyes closed.

  23. #23
    Lifer tsorfas's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2011
    Location
    in my own little world...
    Posts
    9,852

    Re: Flat track - what am I missing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Not Sure View Post
    Well if you want to feel better do the same math for tickets to a Pats or Red Sox game against the actual amount of playing time you see. You’ll view this event as a bargain.
    Talk about a reality slap

    0 Not allowed!

  24. #24
    Lifer backinthesaddle's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2011
    Location
    The Valley of Hope, Rhode Island
    Age
    55
    Posts
    1,492

    Re: Flattrack - what am I missing?

    I saw it in Daytona one year, and did it at the local fair a couple times in the 80's. It was ok. Lots of folks seem to love it. I do like the somewhat grass roots nature of it. Maybe a mile or 1/2 mile would be more fun to watch. I have friends who go to American Super Camp each year and say its the most fun they have on bikes. I don't know I like to turn in both directions (which I think a TT style race does).

    0 Not allowed!
    2013 ZX6R-636

  25. #25
    Soul Rider Paul_E_D's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    western, MA
    Age
    49
    Posts
    13,742

    Re: Flattrack - what am I missing?

    Quote Originally Posted by backinthesaddle View Post
    I saw it in Daytona one year, and did it at the local fair a couple times in the 80's. It was ok. Lots of folks seem to love it. I do like the somewhat grass roots nature of it. Maybe a mile or 1/2 mile would be more fun to watch. I have friends who go to American Super Camp each year and say its the most fun they have on bikes. I don't know I like to turn in both directions (which I think a TT style race does).
    Riding TT courses is a blast and will definitely help draw in a road rider/roadracer. riding dirt track and ice has been the most fun and effective training I have ever done for roadracing. I can't wait to go again.

    1 Not allowed!
    Paul_E_D


Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •