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Privacy - Hints for non techie folks :)

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    So I hope this info is useful to some people A lot of you are very technical so just ignore it This is just for people who aren't as technical but want to protect themselves a little better. I kept it non-technical and yeah, I skipped a lot of methods - partially because it would be tmi and partially because maybe not all of it should be posted openly. I skipped site-wide hacks/cracks/attacks as there is little relevance here. That is a whole other ballgame and not something an end user typically has any control over.

    I'm not trying to come across as a know it all nor is this even intended to be close to an extensive list or anything but thought this all might be of some use. So that you won't think I am full of crap this isn't just stuff I googled - I have been doing this for 14 years now, have 2 college degrees in it - and I don't mean associates - numerous accreditation's and certifications and do security audits from time to time and am currently a professional programmer and work in the NOC for a company that manages over 500 client networks including government ones. I don't mean a NOC as in telephone support, workstation garbage and end user stuff with a ton of outsourced people. I mean a group of about 15 people total, high security clearance, lots of background checks to get in yada yada. Nothing mondo special, but enough to have a good idea what I am talking about lol.

    Once again, not bragging and yes, probably people on this forum with way more creds than me, just don't want you thinking 'hack'. The writing style might be rough, I may have missed some stuff or poorly worded some stuff as I wrote it off the top of my head rather quickly, but be that as it may it should help some folks. Feel free to add to this!!!!


    How am I going to steal your account and make your like a living hell?

    When most people think 'account hacking' they get the idea propagated by tv of someone with a cool matrixy program zipping along popping up one correct letter after another as it guesses the passwords to your account. This (inaccurate) portrayal of hacking is a method none as brute force attacking. A pattern generator or dictionary list of common passwords is used to guess and crack an account. Brute force hacking, while still used is not as common as you would think. Rather in user specific attacks modified social engineering and phishing is the more common method. Despite this, as you will see, a longer and more complex password is a very good step towards better protecting yourself.

    As hacker I am going to go for a more 'open information' approach. I find that your email is 'doc_is_a_dick@biteme.com'. Okay, biteme.com only allows 4 password attempts every 15 minutes before locking down. So how do I get in?

    More Common Ways of Getting Hacked (that you have some control over)

    1. Common passwords

      Using a neat password like 'password' or 'letmein' or 'l3tm31n' or 'fluffy' or 'h0nd@CRv' or something stupid and common like that is a surefire way to get hacked. After all when you use a password like that I won't even be targetting you. All I will be doing is trying that same stupid password against one account after another. Each day I am bound to get hits on a few dozen idiots that were all proud of their nifty and 'ironic' password. I get in, maybe I change the password or maybe I just lurk and wait for a bank statement, something I can blackmail with, social security information, or something equally fun, then I move on to the next dumb password in my list of common passwords and do another pass. I don't trigger any over attempts since I only hit each account once. I bounce on some proxies or zombie machines to make sure it isn't too obvious that I'm the same person each time and I have fun.

      You're password is 'passme' and your username is 'justin31'. Well guess what? Today is 'passme' day and I just ran that password against 'justin20', justin21', 'justin22' and you aren't far behind. How did I know what email to try? Simple, I got a list from a site you subscribed to, or a site that just collects email addresses or I sent out a bunch of spam from a username generator then removed all the names that bounced. Either way, you're on my list. Had you used a real password like 'g3t0utuSmFb4Ik1ckur@s5' I probably would never get around to checking you. No, that isn't one of my passwords. That one is Doc's...so is 'fluffy'

    2. Using Stupid Hints

      If your password happens to be the aforementioned 'h0nda@CRv'and your password hint is 'best f'ing car ever mutha!' then my friend you are toast because 2 minutes from now I'm going to finish using google cache, your friends account that I already hacked or a fb hack to check out your facebook account and see your shiny pos honda crv in your pictures.

      Even better if you stuck it as your profile pic. Failing that I'm gonna find out about it via a blog or twitter or something stupid. Failing all that I'm gonna guess and it may take a few days since I can only do 3 queries every 15 minutes but trust me, my handy dictionary is going to get me in while I'm sleeping and thanks to you I can narrow down the search nicely.

      Again, a long password would have saved you. May have been the same hint but maybe your password was 'mYf@vcrIZ@h0ndaCRVdud3!'. Oh yeah, and rice burner cars suck. PS.

    3. Spyware, Malware, Trojans and Viral infections

      This is the biggest issue by far. Want to get spyware or malware? Just surf a few sketchy sites - even for a second - download lots of free games, visit lots or pr0n sites and make sure you try as many online gambling sites as you can. Don't hesitate to download 'cracked' software or 'keygen' programs. After all, you mcafee antivirus slows the crap out of your computer so it must be doing something useful right? What most people don't realize is that spyware and viral infections while similar are different. Basically you can lump viral infections and trojans together (figures right?). These are typically easier to tell you have as your computer just goes nuts or does weird stuff. Malware is similar in that it may redirect you etc but is more of a cross between a virus and spyware. Most antivirus programs miss all the spyware you download. Viral infections are fairly easy to spot. They tend to use the same markers/patterns and as they are self propagating they are easier to watch for. I don't want to be confusing on this so we'll stick with 'viruses and spyware' and those of you that are also computer savvy can draw the fine line distinctions on when spyware becomes malware and virus are trojans For this discussion it isn't material.

      Spyware doesn't self propagate. If it did it would be definition be a virus. That being said spyware does self propagate in a way. You visit a bad site and it executes from a script or flash or jave app and cha-ching, you been bugged. Now you have spyware sitting there recording your keystrokes, learning what sites you visit, taking screenshots randomly, watching for password fields then copying that out specially and so on.

      You can mitigate this some. Linux and Mac OS X are frankly fairly good at just plain not being compatible with the methods used to get spyware on a computer - so yeah that is why people always say 'switch to mac or linux'. Is it because it is more secure? Nope. Just less people give a crap about a bunch of hippies with their mac books so that is good and most of the hackers use linux and linux is open source so they tend to keep it patched. Score! That being said as apple's popularity grows again count on seeing more spyware and hacks in that arena to. For now I will focus on windows products.

      How do you mitigate this? Well, Sandy, be more careful on the pr0n front. Less donkeys okay bro? Stay away from the gambling sites. Legit, spyware free ones are so few and far between it is ridiculous. It's like trying to find an honest crack dealer. You're dealing with an addiction and people out to make a buck on it. Do you seriously expect them to play nice? Skip the cracked software and keygens. 1.) you don't want to get busted. That $50 or even $5,000 program isn't worth the $250,000+ fine, jail time or if you get lucky, just court time. Besides almost everything out there can be found free legally or open source (also free.) I keep a 100+ gig sorted folder of what I consider the best freeware alternative programs out there. Some of them smoke the paid stuff.

      Use a good antivirus to handle the viruses and a good spyware solution to handle the rest. McAffee sucks. Sorry McAffee, if you see this comment and don't like it - well get over it then fix your stuff. Half of the free antivirus solutions are better. AVast was mentioned and is great, AntiVir by avira is great (though it does on occasion pop up a window trying to convince you to switch to the paid version) and AVG is great as well. Hell, AVG even talks to you.... like at 2am when you are half asleep and almost crap yourself..... for spyware hands down, Malwarebytes is the best. It's free but you have to run it manually every week or so. Microsoft even did something right with their 'Malicious Software Removal Tool'. It is also free and a must have. Schedule it to run daily and call it good.

      Don't download games from sites you don't know or trust. Research stuff. Use 'safer' sites like cnet.com and filehippo.com, majorgeeks.com and stuff like that.


      Extra Information that may be useful....

      Some of the more common web based spyware attacks are the websites that pop up and tell you 'This computer may be at risk'. If you get that and are running Internet Explorer try right clicking somewhere empty on the taskbar and bringing up task manager. Go to processes, sort by name. Find IExplore.exe and right click it. End the process. Now reopen it and DO NOT SELECT restore or you willbe right back where you were. Instead do the home page thing then under safety (assuming newer IE) select 'Delete Browsing History' and make sure 'Temporary Internet Files' and 'Cookies' are selected. Don't go back to that site.

      If you are using FireFox then you are smarter then your average bear. Good for you. Go ahead and ignore the box but start a new instance of FireFox. Not a new tab, a new instance. DO NOT CLOSE or touch the 'computer at risk warning'. Instead in the new firefox window select 'Tools' -> 'Options' -> 'Content' and uncheck 'enable JaveScript'. Now feel free to close the fake warning box and the tab it was from and don't go back to that site. Press 'Ctrl-Shift-Del' to pop up the clear history box and do so. 'Cookies and Cache' are the two we want checked the most.



    4. Using the same password at all your sites or using the same hint at all your sites

      So you have about 2 dozen different websites you are signed up on... and you used the same password for all of them. I'm a hacker. I get into one account, not because your password is bad, but because the site admin did a poor job on security. Maybe I use a SQL injection attack or something stupid that the admin should have known better. Either way I am in, I know the password for that account and it won't be long before I log into all your accounts with that password. Second scenario, you sign up for all of your accounts using different passwords but the same hint. Surprise, your gmail account gets cracked, hacked or whatever. I see all these fun sign up acknowledgment emails. So I go under the account profile of your gmail account, after all I am logged in 'legitimately' and I check out your account hints. Cool. You're mothers maiden name was 'Dingleberry'. Awkward... Now I go reset 'my' password on all the ones that will let me. Thanks for letting me in. Thanks for signing them all up under one account and thank you for keeping the hints all the same.

      Don't put all your eggs in one basket. Don't use the same password everywhere. Don't use the same hint everywhere, and while it won't stop a hacker, signing up for different accounts from different email addresses can help slow them. Maybe give you time to realize and update stuff before they get in. Keep gaming and personal stuff separate from bank etc. Banks tend to have better security so odds are a lot lower that they will be able to target the bank and get your email addy so they can go hack that to figure out your bank login information. Gaming sites on the other hand are typically a lot more lax. If I want into your gaming account or facebook account etc and can't get in directly odds are good I can find your email address and go target the account you signed up with. Once I have that I'll be back to take your gaming account and your level 78 wizard and jam his pointy hat down his throat. One last thing, all the 'click here to complete signup', 'click to reset password' etc emails. Delete them after. Most admins make it so they can only be used once but some don't and some leave information in the links that can help a would hacker hack ya

    5. Using online password management programs.

      Don't be a moron. Talk about all your eggs in one giant online basket. I would give you a 'how stupid this is' analogy but seriously, there aren't really many that do it justice. This is just dumb. Stupid. The pinnacle of lunacy. DON'T DO IT!!!! I don't care how big the password is for the password vault. Don't do it!!!! Oh and all those free 'stores it on your computer' password vault programs.... just so you know... half of them are trojan horses and will send your passwords back. Even the legit ones, while better then keeping it in an online vault, are still a time bomb waiting to happen. IE, FireFox, Chrome all those nice browsers are good at offering to remember passwords for you. Don't do it. First off it is FAR too easy to hack that.... even remotely... secondly one day your computer will tank or something will get corrupt and you will lose that password and be going 'oh...crap... I don't remember what it was, the computer always entered it for me.' Just don't do it. It doesn't matter one bit how long, complex or hard to guess your password is if I can read it plain text.

      Don't use password management programs. No I don't care if you are worried about forgetting it. Write it on a piece of paper and go lock it up in a safety deposit box if you must but do not use a password management system. GRRRRR. Got it? Good

    6. Facebook, myspace crap and all that

      If you are on any of the social networking sites you are by the very nature of those sites accepting some risk. No way around that. Because of the extra risk I recommend using a completely isolated email address to sign up for these accounts with. That is sign up for an email account that will ONLY be used for these sites. Don't link that email account to another one. If you have to use another email account to sign up for it with then either find another place to sign up at or go in after you validate the account and change the 'password recovery' email address to something fake . Don't leave it linked to another account. Make sure the hints etc are all either completely different from all your other accounts or just make them bogus. Don't put your age and all that in there. This way if (when) your social network account is hacked they get into that account and if they get into your email account it is nothing but a dead end account.

      On a side note, in case you missed it - you can help protect your fb account (and this applies to other social networks) a little more than normal by not installing games, playing those 'free' games, taking the quizzes etc. Granted if your friends install and play all that crap then they expose you somewhat as well but hey, you can be the first step and at least keep them out of some stuff. FB also has options to limit what data can be shared. That said as history has shown in the few brief years FB has been around that they don't actually give two hoots about your privacy so hey, good luck with that. Remember, dead end them.

    7. Opening email files, links and spam

      If you get a file in an email, even one that looks like it is from someone you know, and you are not expecting it then verify it first. Don't assume that because it looks like a text file it is safe. I can easily write an executable file that appears to be a text file, appears to end in .txt and is in reality a trojan virus. ALWAYS hover over links in email to make sure they don't show one link and take you to another place altogether. Check the spelling. gooogle.com vs google.com etc. whitehouse.gov vs whitehouse.com Ooops..... If the address ever looks like this: address.com:fastr34q2rtfew@167.123.123.123 or address.com@stealyoursoul.org or something along those lines IT IS FAKE. You may see www.paypal.com but if you look after it and see @xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx(where xxx is a number between 1 and 255) or @stealyoursoul.com or even paypal@12:33:43:24:53:45:34 etc then you were just had. That @ symbol means 'ignore what is before me and go to this site instead'. Sub domains are also a nice way to cheat. For example: paypal.samsshop.com pr paypal.4325324523523.com Just be aware, watch out for stuff like this and be careful about what you open. Check their certificate by clicking on the little shield or lock icon on your browser. Read it and make sure it is really for that company and valid.

    8. Snopes

      Check stuff. Most viruses CANNOT permanently wipe your hard drive (though they can make it inaccessible to someone non-technical), none of them can light it on fire and most of them are not 'impossible to detect or stop.' Snopes as mentioned is a good way to tell if something is legit or not. I sometimes get nice legit looking 'your eft tax return form has an error'. I know that the government is probably not going to email me, but others may just panic and act. Check first, panic later. You'll make less mistakes that way.

      Don't forward or post stuff you haven't checked. For all you know you may be just helping propagate junk. I've had people send me emails that they 'verified with snopes'. Yeah, they clicked the link at the bottom of the spam email, which took them to a fake snope site, complete with a spoofed address and links back to the real snopes site everywhere.

      Had they a.) looked closely at the url or b.) gone to snopes.com on their own then searched I wouldn't be emailing them "no it isn't, don't spam me please."

    9. Public Computers

      So you go to the library and log into your account. Meanwhile I, the hacker, sit at home and read the data the keystroke logger I installed earlier is sending back via proxy. Or maybe you just forget to log out... or maybe you log out but don't clear the cache. I go in and read your emails via the cache, determine you user name, in some cases I may even be able to recover your password or other personal information. Credit card number...receipts...letters to your mom... maybe you clicked the "edit profile" tab and now I can see the answer to your password hint... Either way you treated a public system the same way you would treat a private system. Not smart. Remember, if it is a public computer and I am a hacker then I will target it because I know more people will use it, and typically they will be less computer savvy. Don't assume that because it seems to not allow you to install anything or mess with it that someone else can't or won't. A public computer is a goldmine of information to the right person.

      Best bet in a public place - don't log into your accounts on a public computer. Limit your browsing to non-personally identifiable stuff. EG. No accounts, personal blogs etc. Sometimes this just "can't be avoided". In this cases then at least be certain you log out and clear the cache using one of the methods I mentioned earlier or whatever method your browser calls for then change your password as soon as you can from a personal computer that you know is secure. I personally carry a cd that can boot a full blown linux operating system right from the cd with networking support and everything. No way for them to put a key logger on that and as soon as I pull out my cd and reboot the computer nothing is left in memory.... now most public places tend to frown on this and many are setup to not allow anyone not authenticated to the network to browse the web... but hey.....

      *Extra information* I mentioned that no one could install a key stroke logger on my cd, and that is true, still they could use a hardware key logger installed between the keyboard and pc but those are expensive and most normal people aren't going to bother going to that extreme so getting worried about that might border on paranoia...and yeah, there is also the possibility of someone watching network traffic with wireshark and other programs like that but more places use switches now, less use routers and most data is encrypted so that isn't as big a concern anymore either though still legitimate - just less likely, less common and often too much of a hassle to be worth it to most hackers.




    Summary

    Use long passwords. Pick a sentence you will remember but that isn't dumb like 'thisismypassword' then throw a few character substitutions in. Keep unique passwords between accounts, or at least variations and don't use the same hint more than once. Keep social networks confined to dead end accounts. Don't use common passphrases, EG pet names, car names, common things like passme or letmein, your name, phone numbers, bible book and chapter or things like that. Too easy to guess. Don't use hints that any moron looking at your information - in that account or another- would easily guess. Stay away from pirated software, keygens and sketchy websites. Don't use password managers.

    So yeah, not much technical there. Mostly common sense but it helps. Hope this is helpful to some folks, rhetoric to others but hey, it's all good.



    If that didn't bore you to death reading yet then you might find this interesting too....

    So what about Online Accounts and Password brute force attacks like they show on tv?

    Okay so as seen there are always ways to hack an account even with a long password. That said, as I mentioned before and reiterate now, as far as getting accounts hacked a long password should be your number one priority. It doesn't matter if you use windows, mac os x, linux, bsd or os2 warp - if your password sucks you will eventually get hacked. Less because of brute forcing though and more because of the above reasons.

    Most people imagine the brute attack methods glamorized on tv. While this isn't usually the method chosen, at least not as portrayed on tv, this is a valid method. Typically you won't see it against a single user account as that tends to be a waste of time. The exceptions as mentioned are in the 'slow account after account not password after password' brute force method. Brute force is saved for admin account, master accounts, direct system access. The big reward stuff. Brute force attacks use a pattern generator or dictionary based engine to attempt to guess the correct password. This method is not as prevalent for online accounts because most online accounts limit your retry attempts in order to counter this. Some don't however, hence not reusing the same password everywhere. That being said this method is still very much in use in a different way, typically in a direct attack on a computer/server/firewall/router/wireless access point...etc.

    Too often people think "But I used lots of fancy characters so it doesn't have to be that long." Not true. Yes the more character sets that apply the harder it is to hack. That being said length always adds up to more security faster.

    The number of possible passwords is calculated as the number of characters in the character set that you are using times itself for however many characters long your password is - permutations. So if you use only letters and you have a password 6 characters long than your password complexity is 26x26x26x26x26x26 = 308915776. Sounds like a lot but a computer can guess that many combinations in a matter of minutes- if that computer is slow. So you add some numbers because you are smart and put in some capitals. Capitals bring you up to 52 and numbers add 10 more so now you are at 62x62x62x62x62x62 = 56800235584. Your password is 183 times more complex. Not bad but not that big a deal for a computer. So it takes a few hours now. 8 character minimums used to be fine. Computers were slower and that would take the average computer a few days - a few centuries if it was just guessing by pattern and you used all the combinations. Now we have much faster computers and higher speed connections to the internet over which to run that attack and we can hit you with a few hundred machines we have setup or zombied just for that purpose. If we're smart we will pick a time at night to do it when you won't notice, then a few hours before you open we will bombard you with a ton of 'just surfing the site' traffic to keep you from noticing all the attacks that went on just hours before. We'll bury it in the logs.

    So let's do some math. I can sit there with 6 characters including numbers and lower and capital or I can just add two more characters... let's see what that does....

    • 6 char, all lower = 308915776 combinations
    • 6 chars, mixed case, numbers = 56800235584 combinations or 183 times better by adding caps and numbers
    • 8 chars, all lower = 208827064576 combinations.... or 676 times better WITHOUT even using caps or numbers
    • 8 chars, mixed case, numbers = 218340105584896 combinations.... or 706,794 times better then 6 with all lower or 3844 times better then not adding two characters.


    The moral is there is no substitute for more characters. Period.Combine that with case changes, numbers and special characters and now you are rocking.

    All that being said, as I mentioned, the whole TV idea of brute forcing everything is mainly antiquated and incorrect. You don't get to see the letters as they match, you don't know when you are going to hit one correctly, and you usually don't have a nice fancy interface with a big 'hack this account now' button in the middle of it..... you use things like cain, wwwhack, webcracker, mungabunga and other ones that I would advise against googling for. (Those ones are common enough that no one really cares as long as you don't try to use them).



    *WORD OF CAUTION* - most of the sites that host these files are a REALLY bad idea to go to. 1.) because of the content 2.) because you will end up on a watch list - no paranoia there, just legit. 3.) because that is a prime example of where to download sketchy software that is most likely infected and 4.) because you are putting a target on your computer when you do

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    Re: Privacy - Hints for non techie folks :)

    Thanks Dayze. This is helpful. Interestingly, my FB password, email account and so forth were all 16 or more characters. They are required at school. No worries about "Pron" or gambling, as they are strictly forbidden by my school as well, and my computer is regularly in for servicing and software upgrades.

    My issue all stemmed from people putting too much info together on me...perhaps to scare me. I was "out there" with FB, email, twitter, a blog, etc...no more. It worked. Not sure if it was a joke or real, but I'm unwilling to find out.

    Blog is gone. Twitter:gone. FB gone in 2 days. Email...changed PWD, this time lots more characters. LOTS.

    Thanks for the info. I've certainly learned somethings and revisited some stuff I thought was theory. Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandros View Post
    Thanks Dayze. This is helpful. Interestingly, my FB password, email account and so forth were all 16 or more characters. They are required at school. No worries about "Pron" or gambling, as they are strictly forbidden by my school as well, and my computer is regularly in for servicing and software upgrades.

    My issue all stemmed from people putting too much info together on me...perhaps to scare me. I was "out there" with FB, email, twitter, a blog, etc...no more. It worked. Not sure if it was a joke or real, but I'm unwilling to find out.

    Blog is gone. Twitter:gone. FB gone in 2 days. Email...changed PWD, this time lots more characters. LOTS.

    Thanks for the info. I've certainly learned somethings and revisited some stuff I thought was theory. Cheers.
    Glad it was interesting Yeah, it sucks and it really scary how fast people can find you or you can find people and a WHOLE lot of information, much of it personal, about them. Good luck with all that bro! Sucks when we live in a world where we have to constantly worry about what information is publicly available :/

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    Quote Originally Posted by yesterdayze View Post
    Sucks when we live in a world where we have to constantly worry about what information is publicly available :/
    There's an easy solution to this: only put information online that you don't mind being public, and ratchet down your privacy settings on social networking sites, etc. I also highly recommend completely disabling the application platform on Facebook.

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    Re: Privacy - Hints for non techie folks :)

    lol, sweet, the pole doesn't know how to count. I voted for stifler's mom just to kick things off, there are 2 'very useful' votes, 1 more stifler and 1 too long () and apparently the percentages are as follows:

    Stifler's Mom 50%
    Very Useful 50%
    Too Long 25%

    So my math may be rusty but that looks like 125% to me Maybe the guy that voted 'too long' was trying to make a point

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    Re: Privacy - Hints for non techie folks :)

    Quote Originally Posted by sandros View Post
    Thanks Dayze. This is helpful. Interestingly, my FB password, email account and so forth were all 16 or more characters. They are required at school. No worries about "Pron" or gambling, as they are strictly forbidden by my school as well, and my computer is regularly in for servicing and software upgrades.

    My issue all stemmed from people putting too much info together on me...perhaps to scare me. I was "out there" with FB, email, twitter, a blog, etc...no more. It worked. Not sure if it was a joke or real, but I'm unwilling to find out.

    Blog is gone. Twitter:gone. FB gone in 2 days. Email...changed PWD, this time lots more characters. LOTS.

    Thanks for the info. I've certainly learned somethings and revisited some stuff I thought was theory. Cheers.

    Uh.... be more selective about who you add as friends on facebook and change your privacy setting so that people who aren't your friends can't see that info. Don't really see the issue here, but hey... I'm a bitch... and I can't live without Facebook.

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    So umm... Yesterdaze... When do you wanna come over and scrub my computer?

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    So umm... Yesterdaze... When do you wanna come over and scrub my computer?
    lol.... yeah... I'll be over as soon as I can find some clorox to clean my eyes out with after I do

    Quote Originally Posted by ThisBitch View Post
    Uh.... be more selective about who you add as friends on facebook and change your privacy setting so that people who aren't your friends can't see that info. Don't really see the issue here, but hey... I'm a bitch... and I can't live without Facebook.
    But I want to have the most friends, and how can I do that if I don't add everyone I've ever meet, all their friends and that jerk that stole my milk in kindergarten 25 years ago?

    High profile social sites are always a bigger target *shrug* so there will always be something and they will always have to run to be one step ahead - assuming they aren't the ones being sketchy in the first place.

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    Re: Privacy - Hints for non techie folks :)

    Quote Originally Posted by yesterdayze View Post
    lol.... yeah... I'll be over as soon as I can find some clorox to clean my eyes out with after I do



    But I want to have the most friends, and how can I do that if I don't add everyone I've ever meet, all their friends and that jerk that stole my milk in kindergarten 25 years ago?

    High profile social sites are always a bigger target *shrug* so there will always be something and they will always have to run to be one step ahead - assuming they aren't the ones being sketchy in the first place.
    I don't know... my sympathy is not really kicking in here. If you stopped adding every fucking farmville, see who answered a question about you, click here for coupons, etc on Facebook, it wouldn't be an issue.

    If you stop adding some hot chick you don't know or have friends in common with just because she's hot (and probably spam), it wouldn't be an issue.

    If you went in and modified your personal settings so your phone number, email address, etc weren't visible, it wouldn't be an issue.

    My Facebook is set so that it emails and asks me for permission when one of my friends is trying to see my phone number. Works pretty well.

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    Re: Privacy - Hints for non techie folks :)

    Quote Originally Posted by ThisBitch View Post
    Uh.... be more selective about who you add as friends on facebook and change your privacy setting so that people who aren't your friends can't see that info. Don't really see the issue here, but hey... I'm a bitch... and I can't live without Facebook.
    Have no fear folks, privacy settings were all maximized. Its not like I was handing folks my info. And this wasn't some Farmville app. This was someone who compiled lots about me and I don't like that, hence the bye-bye to FB, blog, twitter etc...

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