2010 Silly Season

[BMFR6]

So silly season is in full swing, ton of rumors floating around. Some big, some not so big. here are my thoughts so far.

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[KawiSmurf]

So silly season is in full swing, ton of rumors floating around. Some big, some not so big. here are my thoughts so far.

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Oh wow, I thought I was the only geek doing this. You seem to be under the same presumptions I am, probably based off of a lot of recent rumors as well (Lorenzo, Bautista, Pasini, etc).

One thing I keep discussing with other race fans is the fate of Spies after this season. I honestly think he'll go another year in SBK, especially if Haga manages to win the title. But when he does go to GP (and he will go), I only see him going with a factory team, not a satellite one. In the case of next year, I could see FIAT putting him in the empty spot left by Lorenzo.

[JohnnyV]

Oh wow, I thought I was the only geek doing this. You seem to be under the same presumptions I am, probably based off of a lot of recent rumors as well (Lorenzo, Bautista, Pasini, etc).

One thing I keep discussing with other race fans is the fate of Spies after this season. I honestly think he'll go another year in SBK, especially if Haga manages to win the title. But when he does go to GP (and he will go), I only see him going with a factory team, not a satellite one. In the case of next year, I could see FIAT putting him in the empty spot left by Lorenzo.

I would love to see Rossi/Spies with Fiat Yamaha for 2010.

[Pittenger5]

There was a note in the new RRW that the Yamaha boss wants Spies in MotoGP

[BMFR6]

well, Spies can't go to Fiat straight from WSBK due to the new rookie rule (or the Spies rule as it's been dubbed). They have to have 9 races to get on a factory team. Now, what I could see Yamaha doing, contracting Spies for 2 years now, that way they have him on contract. if he takes the wsbk crown, they move him to Toselands seat on tech 3 for 2010. Chances are good rossi will retire at the end of next year, which in turn would open up a factory spot for ben (provided he does well on the tech 3). if he doesn't win wsbk this year, they keep him there next year.

i honestly think, even without the rookie rule in place, a factory ride right out of the get-go is a long shot for him. the current/recent sbk guys that moved to gp just haven't matched the results of the 250 guys that move up. as a team owner, thats something to look at.

just some thoughts.

[BMFR6]

another issue with the fiat rossi/spies situation, hypothetically speaking right now of course, spies could potentially find himself in the same shoes as lorenzo. "you'll be the next big thing kid, just go out there and beat valentino"


something i would have liked to have seen would have been a rossi/melandri combo for 2010, but alas it was never meant to be.

[a13x]

MotoGP makes me sleepy.

[BMFR6]

MotoGP makes me sleepy.

come on, it's been better this year than it has the past few and now with a limit on the number of allowed engines it should get better still. granted it's not wsbk, but give it time. i think the slumping economy may be one of the best things for the series.

[Johnny B]

Dig up the proposed rules wherever they might be. I think that the rule actually states that a new rider cannot ride on a factory A-team in order to be eligible for the Rookie of the Year honors, not an outright ban.

[seth399]

I dunno, I know these guys have egos but I would welcome the idea of going to fiat yamaha and be on same team as Rossi if I were lorenzo or Spies even...I bet I would become a better/smarter racer being around his camp even if I place 2nd to him every race.

[BMFR6]

Dig up the proposed rules wherever they might be. I think that the rule actually states that a new rider cannot ride on a factory A-team in order to be eligible for the Rookie of the Year honors, not an outright ban.

Nope, outright ban. Suzuki is the only exception given the fact they don't have a "B" team.

I dunno, I know these guys have egos but I would welcome the idea of going to fiat yamaha and be on same team as Rossi if I were lorenzo or Spies even...I bet I would become a better/smarter racer being around his camp even if I place 2nd to him every race.

While that may be true for the first year or two, nobody is in that series to place second and your life span can be cut very short if all you are doing is learning. Take JT for example, he's even gone on record stating that he has access to all Yamaha data, including Rossi's. he hasn't been able to do anything with it and I'm guessing we'll see him back in WSBK next year. Granted some of them may accept the fact their chances of becoming world champ are slim, Lorenzo isn't in that boat and like you say, that is where the ego's come in.

[seth399]

ya thats true, lorenzo isn't in that mindset and I highly doubt spies would be as well at this point.

[a13x]

come on, it's been better this year than it has the past few and now with a limit on the number of allowed engines it should get better still. granted it's not wsbk, but give it time. i think the slumping economy may be one of the best things for the series.

I just don't like the way the bikes work on the track. Aren't that fun to watch. Rarely get out of shape, spin up the rears, etc etc. Like watching slot cars.

[gixxer72]

MotoGP makes me sleepy.

Never thought I'd say it but the best racing I've watched this year has come from the AMA. Daytona Sportbike has been crazy.

[DerekSBelanger]

Following months of intense speculation it has been confirmed that Héctor Barberá will ride for the new Aspar team on Ducati machinery in the premier class in 2010

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2009/B...+Aspar+in+2010

[BMFR6]

Spanish papers are saying Lorenzo made the Ducati deal official. Yamaha is making him make a decision by Indy so we should expect the official announcment soon. This moves Nicky out and rumors say that Rossi has already given his nod of approval to have Hayden as a teamate again.

[Pittenger5]

Wow, Id love to see Lorenzo on the Duc.
Mainly cause I wanna see Nicky on a bike he can ride again.

[BMFR6]

Updated my spreadsheet

http://www.motogpmatters.com/news/20...ati_proba.html

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[akira700]

Lorenzo would be dumb I think to jump to Ducati.
I think he's just leveraging Yamaha for the sweetest
deal he can get.

Wondering what will happen to DePuniet and Elias.
They both I think have some potential still in them.

[BMFR6]

Well, looks like it's confirmed that Lorenzo will stay at Yamaha. probably the best decision if he wants an honest shot at the title next year.

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2009/L...Yamaha+in+2010

[Eddie]

Wow...so much for speculations...thanks for the heads up. BTW, anybody have an update on Elias' situation?

[DerekSBelanger]

Capirossi Re-Signs With Rizla Suzuki For 2010 MotoGP Season

http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/...?article=37861

[BMFR6]

Sorry, I haven't posted my updated spreadsheet recently. I'm slacking I guess. Yeah, Capirex is staying with Suzuki and apparently theres a lot of good reason for it. They are moving up to 2 test riders which should help, additionaly in the last test apparently the Suzuki garage was wrapped up like a drum hiding their new bits and pieces. Supposed to be moving some funding from AMA and WSBK to their GP effort as well. Guess Ducati offered Loris his seat back a couple times as well.

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[BMFR6]

hayden stays with the factory Ducati. Good to see an American staying in the series, but I wonder if they kept him because everyone else they have approached has turned them down (with the exception of Pedrosa, but he didn't seem to be dying to ride that bike).

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2009/Sep/090903b.htm

[BMFR6]

So, it is being reported that edwards has resigned with Tech 3. Now the interesting fact is that Edwards "had" the Yamaha seat at Tech 3 and Toseland had the "Tech 3" seat (Yamaha owns one seat, the team owns the other). Now, Edwards is on the seat owned by the team leaving the Yamaha owned seat open. The rumors are flying fast and furious that it is being saved for Spies, thats right, Team Texas, provided Ben wins the WSBK title. Pramac Ducati has approached Ben about GP next year so Yamaha had to act quick and secure hinm for the next two, this explains the vague announcment of ben's seat for next year.

In other news, FP Corse should be a new bike on the grid. Rumored to make it's first appearance at Valencia this year.

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