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    2018 LRRS Rules are out


    Anne-Marie has sent out an email blast with the 2018 rulebook pdf, I don't see it on NHMS' site yet. She specifically called out the following things for racers to take note of:

    AM/EX combined classes for 300/500 SuperSport & 300/500 SuperBike
    Practice Starts
    Cat Converter
    Wheelies
    Lever Guards
    Spec Fuel

    Digging through the things that jump out at me:
    - 300 SS & 300 SB cap singles at 310cc, so the KTM is now a 500 class machine.
    - Electric bike rules, might have been there before but never noticed.
    - Graham is still Chief Referee, yay!
    - No announcer yet, TBA.

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    Re: 2018 LRRS Rules are out

    You see the designated wheelie section? Lol

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    I don't know how to wheelie so I skipped that as not relevant to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurlon View Post
    Anne-Marie has sent out an email blast with the 2018 rulebook pdf, I don't see it on NHMS' site yet. She specifically called out the following things for racers to take note of:

    AM/EX combined classes for 300/500 SuperSport & 300/500 SuperBike
    Practice Starts
    Cat Converter
    Wheelies
    Lever Guards
    Spec Fuel

    Digging through the things that jump out at me:
    - 300 SS & 300 SB cap singles at 310cc, so the KTM is now a 500 class machine.
    - Electric bike rules, might have been there before but never noticed.
    - Graham is still Chief Referee, yay!
    - No announcer yet, TBA.
    HOW ARE THEY ALLOWING THE R3 BUT NOT THE KTM?!

    Also, explain the combined class. I read it but I don’t have the mental capacity to process that many words. If it’s what I think it is... wtf?

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    I think they were thinking motards but not KTM rc390? Wtf?


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    Re: 2018 LRRS Rules are out

    Ping Anne-Marie, get clarification.

    On combined classes it means if that pesky AM gets in front of you, he just stole your podium.

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    Re: 2018 LRRS Rules are out

    So when is someone going to post the wheelie section?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurlon View Post
    Ping Anne-Marie, get clarification.

    On combined classes it means if that pesky AM gets in front of you, he just stole your podium.
    Yes that’s what I thought it meant...

    Also they must have screwed up the wording on the 300 classes because it also exclude the R3.

    “Twin cylinder, four stroke liquid cooled up to 300 cc”

    That leaves the ninja 300 in that class...

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    Quote Originally Posted by loudbeard View Post
    So when is someone going to post the wheelie section?
    You can wheelie on hot pit after a sign that says “now entering the wheelie zone”... all the way until you pit out.

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    Re: 2018 LRRS Rules are out

    Quote Originally Posted by isaac_ View Post
    You can wheelie on hot pit after a sign that says “now entering the wheelie zone”... all the way until you pit out.
    Don't forget the line they painted on the ground to indicate the end of the wheelie section.

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    Re: 2018 LRRS Rules are out

    I have to say, if I bought a ktm specifically for the 300 class and then now its not allowed...I'd be pissed.

    You guys should just do the ktm cup in jersey instead. 4 rounds this year.

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    Re: 2018 LRRS Rules are out

    It looks like LRRS moved to match CCS for 300 SS and SB definitions. So KTMs and R3s are now 500 class machines. I say skip those classes, go full nutter on the motor and jump into ULGP!

    Quote Originally Posted by 2018 LRRS Rulebook
    6.2.6 Wheelies and/or any other stunt are strictly prohibited in the paddock, pits and on pit road. All wheels must be on the ground at all times, on any machine, pit bike or other wheeled vehicle. The only wheelies which will be allowed will be in the area of competition on the Hot Pit indicated by two signs that say “Wheelie Zone” placed at Pit Stall #19 and wheelies will be allowed until Pit Out, which is indicated by a 12 inch white line and row of cones.

    6.2.6.1 Any violation of this rule will be dealt with by the Chief Referee, or his or her designee, accordingly.

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    I don't read so good. So please tell me.

    What is a cat converter?
    This R3 I just bought - that is now a 500cc class and I have to also be prepared to be buzzed by experts who could be on a 500cc machine in the same race?

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    Quote Originally Posted by loudbeard View Post
    So when is someone going to post the wheelie section?
    No really I’m curious too

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsorfas View Post
    No really I’m curious too
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    Quote Originally Posted by sdog30 View Post
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    I just read the rule. I honestly thought that those posts were sarcasm. Wheelie zone is a real thing.
    We should add some no pass and no crash zones too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xxaarraa View Post
    I don't read so good. So please tell me.

    What is a cat converter?
    This R3 I just bought - that is now a 500cc class and I have to also be prepared to be buzzed by experts who could be on a 500cc machine in the same race?
    Worst part about getting buzzed my experts on 500's is you can't even hear them coming... Or going...

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    I think there will be a wheelie zone around the North garages too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tas View Post
    I think there will be a wheelie zone around the North garages too.
    The wording on pit shenanigans is pretty well spelled out too. Not sure if they added rules, but it looks like they have five pages of rules that basically say " no fun" in the pits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by isaac_ View Post
    HOW ARE THEY ALLOWING THE R3 BUT NOT THE KTM?!

    Also, explain the combined class. I read it but I don’t have the mental capacity to process that many words. If it’s what I think it is... wtf?
    Isaac (and all). I'm actively talking with Graham and Steve to get clarification on this. Don't react to anything as written right now. Give it a week, then you can fire up the turbo charged flame throwers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodcraft View Post
    Isaac (and all). I'm actively talking with Graham and Steve to get clarification on this. Don't react to anything as written right now. Give it a week, then you can fire up the turbo charged flame throwers.
    I was about to joke about only using factory equipped turbos on your flame throwers 'cause adding them on after is illegal but I can't find the relevant rule in the book any more... are turbos now SB/GP legal?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodcraft View Post
    Isaac (and all). I'm actively talking with Graham and Steve to get clarification on this. Don't react to anything as written right now. Give it a week, then you can fire up the turbo charged flame throwers.
    Thanks Eric. Admittedly the email came out at a bad time for me and I may have overreacted. I do appreciate what you guys do and I’d race what I have regardless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodcraft View Post
    Isaac (and all). I'm actively talking with Graham and Steve to get clarification on this. Don't react to anything as written right now. Give it a week, then you can fire up the turbo charged flame throwers.
    What class will these turbocharged flame throwers be eligible for? How many cylinders is too many?...

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    Quote Originally Posted by number9 View Post
    What class will these turbocharged flame throwers be eligible for? How many cylinders is too many?...
    3 propane cylinders max. If you use mapp pro it's 2. Unlimited weight per cylinder.

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    Re: 2018 LRRS Rules are out

    Well, there you go. They just changed the rule and did an exception for lrrs. Ktm 390 and yamaha r3 added to 300 supersport and superbike.

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