LRRS auto bump

[xsiliconkid]

Here's the skinny.....

The following will most likely be the rule going forward.
Any Amateur rider whose best lap time is at or better than the 110% rule in a minimum of 5 races over a minimum of two race events during the season will be asked to advance to Expert (assuming they meet the other requirements for advancement - safety, attitude, experience etc.)
A rider can elect to move to Expert the following race event or remain an amateur for the rest of the race season but will automatically start the next season as an Expert.

The logic.
The criteria for advancement is performance based & not how many points a person accumulates. (there is a relationship but it is indirect). Advancing riders too early can frustrate a good racer while, leaving the fastest racers in Amateur (past season end) doesn't allow the rest of the Amateurs opportunities to place in the top spots.
Looking at the past season's expert best lap times for all racers. A majority of classes will have an amateur that runs around the 110% of class record lap time finishing in the lower 1/3 of places - a great starting point for new Experts.

Almost a dozen amateurs fit into the above advancement category today and will/have been asked to move to expert. The 2014 rules while not as explicit as above does allow LRRS to advance riders based on Rule 5.6.1 Administrative advancement.

Opinions/comments?
example of expert lap times
LRRS Expert advance times.pdf


ps. I am in contact with CCS to figure out - if a LRRS racers attends other CCS events and CCS feels a rider should advance to Expert but do not meet LRRS criteria- how we handle that.

[Jim]

ps. I am in contact with CCS to figure out - if a LRRS racers attends other CCS events and CCS feels a rider should advance to Expert but do not meet LRRS criteria- how we handle that.

pretty sure this was specifically about me. because of my CCS entries, they bumped me to Expert. But my LRRS lap times werent near the 110% lap time yet.

[Kurlon]

Looks good to me, and I also approve the idea of including ULSB times as well as that nukes my one of my critiques of the 2014 rule book.

[rolker]

Not that I'm in any rush to bump to expert, but I like that ultra lightweight bikes got their own category! A .23 seems much more within my reach in the next few years than a .21...

[nt650hawk]

Wow slow year for ULSB. I may have to do something about that.

[Trouble]

Wow slow year for ULSB.

Wow, whoa, hey now!

I like the above written proposed rule. I think it's good to clean up the amateur ranks and encourage/force racers that are skilled enough to move up. I found it helpful as both a novice and amateur to have a goal to reach before advancing and this addresses that.

[Chippertheripper]

I'm wholeheartedly in favor of this system.
Was it always 110%? For some reason 107 sticks in my head.
Either way, if 110 gets most riders into the average lower third of the next level's field, it makes perfect sense.

I wish more orgs would adopt something like this.

[The Snowman]

I'm wholeheartedly in favor of this system.
Was it always 110%? For some reason 107 sticks in my head.
Either way, if 110 gets most riders into the average lower third of the next level's field, it makes perfect sense.

I wish more orgs would adopt something like this.

It was 107% when I bumped to EX a couple of years ago.

[tsorfas]

I got mad work to do. Shit

[Yknot]

Wow, whoa, hey now!

Trash talking from the peanut gallery. John followed the guidelines do what it takes to win and no more, I think he hasn't shown all his cards yet there Gino. Dust off that antique and come play, we will play nice

[nt650hawk]

I know there IS more!!

[Yknot]

and...

[rolker]

You bastards are going to lower the ULW bump times aren't you?

[nt650hawk]

I know of AM today that we Juniors what I was a an AM back in 04. HUH>???


structure back when was:
Amateur --> today Novice
Junior --> today Amateur
Expert --> today Expert

[nt650hawk]

You bastards are going to lower the ULW bump times aren't you?

time to get a faster bike with wings Roland!

[xsiliconkid]

Roland maybe try racing without taking the slicks down to exposed cords!

[Kurlon]

I don't think that quick change rear sprocket saved you enough time either...

[rolker]

Roland maybe try racing without taking the slicks down to exposed cords!

Gotta keep racing affordable, use all that rubber!

[TheIglu]

So, for example, what is the Expert auto bump time for SV's? Not all fancy worked SV's with jicksah front ends, but normal SV's.

Are there two sets of times, one for Novice to AM, then from AM to Expert?

[Chippertheripper]

So, for example, what is the Expert auto bump time for SV's? Not all fancy worked SV's with jicksah front ends, but normal SV's.

Are there two sets of times, one for Novice to AM, then from AM to Expert?

Yes.
26's to move up to am.
21's for ex.
This is for LW classes, regardless of ss or not (it looks).

[TheIglu]

Average or best time?

[nt650hawk]

So, for example, what is the Expert auto bump time for SV's? Not all fancy worked SV's with jicksah front ends, but normal SV's.

Are there two sets of times, one for Novice to AM, then from AM to Expert?

must be faster than Pete? I remember the good ole days between the two of you!

[TheIglu]

Hey, I retired being faster than Pete. Therefore, I'm still faster than Pete. And if he was in 2nd place for the year, logically that means I was first since there was only one ranking available that was faster than him.


So there you have it. I am the 2014 ULSS Expert Class Champion.

[Chippertheripper]

Average or best time?

I believe it's a best time for am, and according to post one, you must hit the mark at least 5 times over 2 or more rounds, and not be an asshole. Edit: for expert.

[TheIglu]

That makes sense. So be fast, but don't be Jesus.