Braking technique advice

[butcher bergs]

Great Thread! I have a question for all you experts and amatuers.... how the hell do you guys downshift while leaned over in turn 1,6, and 11? I am trail braking in all these turns but for the life of me I can't bring myself to downshift while leaned over in the turn.

T11 is probably the one that will require the most attention as far as downshifting goes. Not sure on an SV but I grab two gears down going up to the wall in T1 and already have my gear in place for T6.

You may want to consider putting more weight on your outside foot for these turns, which will do a few things for you but also allow you to move your left a bit easier for shifting

...and like others have said, feed the clutch slowly or rev-match. I don't have a slipper so I have to use a bit of both.

[OreoGaborio]

Do you engine brake?

yup, but the RPM's don't need to come up right away to do it. You're engine braking as you're slipping the clutch, too.

[obsolete]

Wanna go over your process entering 3?

[RyanNicholson]

Wanna go over your process entering 3?

gas gas gas gas gas BRAKE shift BRAKE SHIT BRAKE BRAKE SHIT shift SHIT SHIT BRAKE turn

[CEO]

gas gas gas gas gas BRAKE shift BRAKE SHIT BRAKE BRAKE SHIT shift SHIT SHIT BRAKE turn

are those shit's the ripples in the pavement on the left?? hhaha

[OreoGaborio]

Wanna go over your process entering 3?

What part?

I go fast, then I slow down, I shift as I'm slowing down, I say "SHIT SHIT SHIT" to be like Ryan cuz he's fast so it must be right as I'm slowing down, then I turn as I'm slowing down, then I stop slowing down and begin speeding up.

[strgt]

gas gas gas gas gas BRAKE shift BRAKE SHIT BRAKE BRAKE SHIT shift SHIT SHIT BRAKE turn

Mine goes like this:

gas gas gas gas gas BRAKE shift BRAKE SHIT BRAKE BRAKE SHIT SHIT crunch crunch scrape scrape.... SHIT

[The Snowman]

Mine goes like this:

gas gas gas gas gas BRAKE shift BRAKE SHIT BRAKE BRAKE SHIT SHIT crunch crunch scrape scrape

[butcher bergs]

ceo has my rain technique going into T3 on video....

[The Snowman]

ceo has my rain technique going into T3 on video....

I came close to having it on film, but wasn't fast enough.

[butcher bergs]

You know what not to do tho, right?

[The Snowman]

You know what not to do tho, right?

I do now. (But yet, I have still tried. Thankfully, unsuccessfully.)

[obsolete]

Cunts, the whole lot of ya.

Are you on the brake while blipping the throttle and feeding the clutch or are you clutch in and no the brake grabbing 2 shifts then out of the clutch.

[OreoGaborio]

Lemme put it in code for ya...

[brakes] [pull in clutch/blip/gear change/slip clutch] [steering input] [/steering input] [/slip clutch] (if you haven't already) [/brakes]

That's assuming you already have your body positioning set before you start braking.

[Kurlon]

Lemme put it in code for ya...

[brakes]clutch/blip/gearchange/slipclutch, steering input[/brakes]

Could you do it as object oriented C instead, I parse that better than fake html?

[butcher bergs]

Are you on the brake while blipping the throttle and feeding the clutch or are you clutch in and no the brake grabbing 2 shifts then out of the clutch.

There's no singular way. What works for some might not work for others.

[OreoGaborio]

Could you do it as object oriented C instead, I parse that better than fake html?

[post]
no
[/post]

[Kurlon]

[post]
no
[/post]

I am so not going to research model year differences on SVs any more... as much, that I'll admit to...

[Paul_E_D]

Fug the blipping while on the brakes, in the ripple bumps, with the rear tire wagging. That's only going to slow you down. Shift at the right time and you eliminate a lot of unnecessary thought and input.

[eboos]

This has turned into a great thread.

My rear gets very loose on my downshifts in 11. I can't wait to get back out there and work on things.

[Ken C]

Fug the blipping while on the brakes, in the ripple bumps, with the rear tire wagging. That's only going to slow you down. Shift at the right time and you eliminate a lot of unnecessary thought and input.

I have a slipper clutch, but do not believe I actually use it. Clutch control and timing is a learned art.

[butcher bergs]

That's only going to slow you down.

Isn't that what the thread is about?

[Fitz]

I have a slipper clutch, but do not believe I actually use it. Clutch control and timing is a learned art.

I have a slipper clutch because I couldn't figure out clutch control and timing. We won't even talk about all the other things I'm still trying to figure out....

Fitz

[Paul_E_D]

Isn't that what the thread is about?

Lol! But not in a good way. You'll be so panicked about blipping with all that stuff happening that you'll have to brake earlier, and likely scrub more speed than necessary to enter the corner. It gets pretty hactic even without the blipping.

[xsiliconkid]

The only place on the track where you should have to downshift while leaned over significantly is in T11...

with the new t1, there seems be a need to snick one or two down shift's very late...leant over and just before going hard left.