CCS ROC Daytona 2013

[tsorfas]

Frenchy clocked a 2:02, I got a 2:08
We entered late, so were in the pack of the MW grids. Finished mid pack or better.

I did both ASRA races on my 600. Finished 4th in the 1000 class, and ended up 3rd overall in the amateur 1000 class for the season.

Not bad for our first time there.

Best track experience I've ever had. First time I've ever NOT wanted to leave the track. Every weekend at Loudon, I just want to get it over with. Daytona, I was signing up for additional races. Knowing I was dead last on the grid,
I just wanted more laps and better times.

Gold might be the sport for you

[pontifex]

The results: http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/...onal-speedway/

[Kurlon]

Well, ASRA results, not the stuff we care about. ;D

[pontifex]

Well, ASRA results, not the stuff we care about. ;D

I see Jimmy, Frenchy and Shane in there

[tsorfas]

I guess I got 8th overall from the race at NHMS lol

[Kurlon]

http://www.ccsracing.us/results/2013...0ROC%20CCS.pdf

Interesting to see a de-stroked SV650 (listed as an SV565) running around in GTL and LWGP.

[nt650hawk]

Huge thanks to mom and dad for hosting a few hooligans fron the north east.

I could not have asked for anything more from the boys.. 2:11. Is no joke for these lil machines.. viva la hawk

About to board for the cold weather now. C u soon

[The Snowman]

Ties are interesting. The Superstock Amateur had a 4 way tie for 5th place.

[tsorfas]

Most important seems y'all had fun and at the end of the day that's what really racing and motorcycles are about!
Congrats! Get home safe and prepare for a long fucking winter.

[nt650hawk]

Most important seems y'all had fun and at the end of the day that's what really racing and motorcycles are about!
Congrats! Get home safe and prepare for a long fucking winter.

Ohhh we had fun last night... what was it? 3 hours sleep. It could have been less if any sleep at all.

[Jim]

Well, ASRA results, not the stuff we care about. ;D

LRRS < CCS < ASRA/AMA < AMA Pro

I know most will argue that LRRS and CCS is the same, but it really isn't. CCS travels every round to a different track which lessens the "home court advantage" and tends to not have the same top riders every round that have been riding for 20+ years.

I know everyone will get all Loudon defensive about it, but that's my opinion & I'm sticking to it.

[OreoGaborio]

Sooooo you're saying LRRS is the best?

">" = "greater than"

[CBR929RE]

Shane Turpin set a new outright lap record 1:46.00

[Jim]

Good catch Pete. I'm on very little sleep still.

[brady]

http://www.ccsracing.us/results/2013...0ROC%20CCS.pdf

Interesting to see a de-stroked SV650 (listed as an SV565) running around in GTL and LWGP.

not an SV:
http://www.svrider.com/forum/showpos...&postcount=130
and
http://www.svrider.com/forum/showpos...7&postcount=83

PS: nice work LRRS guys!

[Trouble]

I had a great time! As I said on Facebook, I can't thank Joel, Gino, Bill and Gino's parents enough for the help and hospitality! I had a good race despite a crappy start and managed to work my way up to and hold onto fourth place. 2:11 was my best time. I'll do an end of season writeup with the details when I get to a real computer but I definitely experienced the gamut of emotions associated with racing compressed into a few short days.

[Kurlon]

Ah, it's one of THOSE de-strokers... Cool. Knew they are becoming popular in WERA, didn't realize someone was running one in CCS.

[CBR929RE]

not an SV:
http://www.svrider.com/forum/showpos...&postcount=130
and
http://www.svrider.com/forum/showpos...7&postcount=83

PS: nice work LRRS guys!

I don't get it, how/why did he go for a smaller engine? isn't it against CCS rules to downsize an engine to fit in another class? so he made the engine smaller to run against bigger bikes? I must be missing something here

[Kurlon]

For the 'production classes' aka Superbike and Supersport, there is specific rule clause stating that you can't downsize a bike to fit a lower class. IE a HWSB origin machine can't be downsized to run MWSB, etc.

No such restriction for GP classes.

By spending some serious coin, he's essentially legally running a MWSS up against LWGP machines. Hence why he ran LWGP and GTL but not LWSB. His motor isn't stressed at all by the build either, compared to some of the crazy Ducs/etc that run LW in the south east. The earlier variant in WERA of this was defeating one cylinder (unplug the injector at a minimum) but that only netted a cool sounding 475cc machine turning high 70s to low 80s HP, pumping losses were huge.

[CBR929RE]

For the 'production classes' aka Superbike and Supersport, there is specific rule clause stating that you can't downsize a bike to fit a lower class. IE a HWSB origin machine can't be downsized to run MWSB, etc.

No such restriction for GP classes.

By spending some serious coin, he's essentially legally running a MWSS up against LWGP machines. Hence why he ran LWGP and GTL but not LWSB. His motor isn't stressed at all by the build either, compared to some of the crazy Ducs/etc that run LW in the south east. The earlier variant in WERA of this was defeating one cylinder (unplug the injector at a minimum) but that only netted a cool sounding 475cc machine turning high 70s to low 80s HP, pumping losses were huge.

gotcha. while its not cheating its kind of a cheap way to try to win (I don't mean money).

[Kurlon]

gotcha. while its not cheating its kind of a cheap way to try to win (I don't mean money).

I don't agree, for the GP classes in my mind it's totally within the spirit of the class. GP bikes were meant to be rules benders, do whatever it takes to get the job done. In the SE LWGP class that has meant finding crazy expensive low production number Duc 1000/1100 based machines and further building the piss out of them. This is a way to do so for a MUCH smaller total outlay, and it's a common chassis so setup isn't a mystery either. He read the rules book and found the loop-hole, more props to him.

[CBR929RE]

I don't agree, for the GP classes in my mind it's totally within the spirit of the class. GP bikes were meant to be rules benders, do whatever it takes to get the job done. In the SE LWGP class that has meant finding crazy expensive low production number Duc 1000/1100 based machines and further building the piss out of them. This is a way to do so for a MUCH smaller total outlay, and it's a common chassis so setup isn't a mystery either. He read the rules book and found the loop-hole, more props to him.

I think its a fairly cool build but I just think downsizing is kind of dumb. going with a big crazy build I think is better. jut my opinion. he didn't cheat so I don't hold anything against him.

[Kurlon]

I've gone both routes before. The big crazy stuff is cool as all hell, till it breaks. Repeatedly. When you can least afford it. Damn it not again...

I'm liking the fact that this year's winter maint must include the following:

Fluid changes
Check valves

Done. Not crazy fragile, yet still competitive. I have time on race weekends to stop, relax, and not worry about fixing X or adjusting Y. It's cool.

That said, the crazy mad scientist lurking inside has been talking to me still, there is a loop hole or two I haven't exploited, HP left untapped... all I need to do is man up and throw a VISA in the right direction to start the second build...

[brady]

I've gone both routes before. The big crazy stuff is cool as all hell, till it breaks. Repeatedly. When you can least afford it. Damn it not again...
That said, the crazy mad scientist lurking inside has been talking to me still, there is a loop hole or two I haven't exploited, HP left untapped... all I need to do is man up and throw a VISA in the right direction to start the second build...

here ya go

[Kurlon]

Bwahaha! My co-workers are now looking at me funny. I need that as a poster for my garage.