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Count Down Till' 2011 Race Season

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    Re: Count Down Till' 2011 Race Season

    You can get a 3 digit number on plates like this. All rolled through tech no problem. They usually bust my balls over stupid shit.

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    Landrics plates. Also go through tech no problem. They are the biggest ones out of the three so the numbers fit a little better.



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    Re: Count Down Till' 2011 Race Season

    Quote Originally Posted by union View Post
    You can get a 3 digit number on plates like this. All rolled through tech no problem. They usually bust my balls over stupid shit.

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    Ill try and get a landrics paint photo up tomorrow.
    That looks correct. As big as they can be with 1/2 inch clearance.

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    Re: Count Down Till' 2011 Race Season

    Also keep in mind that experts get away with a LOT more with regard to things like that than a novice, especially a rookie. Your first weekend tech is probably the most intense scrutiny your bike will ever get.

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    Re: Count Down Till' 2011 Race Season

    Quote Originally Posted by lrrs313 View Post
    Also keep in mind that experts get away with a LOT more with regard to things like that than a novice, especially a rookie. Your first weekend tech is probably the most intense scrutiny your bike will ever get.

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    They whisked me through no-prob...And I did all the classic novice shit like leave helmets and reg forms back yonder. I say go for it, and if there's a problem come find me. I'll likely have a extra sheet or 2 of white background and we'll make that bike ugly.

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    75 Days

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    Goals? Not be last at the beginning of the season and at the end of the season not being lapped. And have fun. Cannot wait to see everyone again.

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    74 days cant wait to see everyone eaither

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    Re: Count Down Till' 2011 Race Season

    This is seriously the worst thread ever. Cut the shit, man!
    I see this thread every time you post in it and you're making winter feel like a fucking eternity.

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    Re: Count Down Till' 2011 Race Season

    Quote Originally Posted by lrrs313 View Post
    Also keep in mind that experts get away with a LOT more with regard to things like that than a novice, especially a rookie. Your first weekend tech is probably the most intense scrutiny your bike will ever get.
    I didn't experience this on my rookie weekend. I flew right through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 07BladeRider View Post
    I didn't experience this on my rookie weekend. I flew right through.
    Forget about the # plates, those are easy enough to redo, but what about the routing of vent hoses? I just moved mine so they dump into the lower of the fairing under the exhaust. Is that what is usually done on a stocker like mine? Anything need to be done with the crankcase breather hose?

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    here's a link to the rulebook...
    http://www.lrrsracing.com/2010/2010_LRRS_RULES.pdf
    all that crap is supposed to go into 750ml catch cans, if i'm not mistaken. i don't think the belly pan was intended for that, really. will you get away with it? maybe. the only thing i can guarantee from tech is they will look at your helmet, and test your fuel if you either: win or do something dumb. like stop for lunch at the 3-10 split.

    also, since it's a ccs rulebook, try the ccs forums or wera on bike setup. i'm moturded, so i'm not too much help here.

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    Re: Count Down Till' 2011 Race Season

    Quote Originally Posted by Chippertheripper View Post
    here's a link to the rulebook...
    http://www.lrrsracing.com/2010/2010_LRRS_RULES.pdf
    all that crap is supposed to go into 750ml catch cans, if i'm not mistaken. i don't think the belly pan was intended for that, really. will you get away with it? maybe. the only thing i can guarantee from tech is they will look at your helmet, and test your fuel if you either: win or do something dumb. like stop for lunch at the 3-10 split.

    also, since it's a ccs rulebook, try the ccs forums or wera on bike setup. i'm moturded, so i'm not too much help here.
    Thanks Chip, I'm pretty familiar w/the rule book, but the catch can stuff doesn't make much sense to me since there really is no place to put them! The vent hoses on my bike run down the sides of the engine down by the foot pegs and the only place to put a 750ml catch can would be the battery box but then the hoses would be running upward and wouldn't drain at all. I thought I heard somewhere that those just go into the "oil catch pan" i.e. lower fairing. Just wanted to make sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianC View Post
    Thanks Chip, I'm pretty familiar w/the rule book, but the catch can stuff doesn't make much sense to me since there really is no place to put them! The vent hoses on my bike run down the sides of the engine down by the foot pegs and the only place to put a 750ml catch can would be the battery box but then the hoses would be running upward and wouldn't drain at all. I thought I heard somewhere that those just go into the "oil catch pan" i.e. lower fairing. Just wanted to make sure.
    Your fuel vent/overflow lines on a MW can be run to dump into the bellypan.

    You don't need a catch can.

    Your coolant overflow reservoir covers the coolant.

    Most new MW bikes the crankcase breather is routed back into the airbox

    So you don't need anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ceo and a bunch of numbers View Post
    Your fuel vent/overflow lines on a MW can be run to dump into the bellypan.

    You don't need a catch can.

    Your coolant overflow reservoir covers the coolant.

    Most new MW bikes the crankcase breather is routed back into the airbox

    So you don't need anything.
    Very good, thanks and congrats on being in the Woodcraft catalog!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianC View Post
    Very good, thanks and congrats on being in the Woodcraft catalog!
    I'd consult the rule book for any questions on tech, as it's the final authority.

    In this case, vent and overflow lines cannot just be routed to the bellypan.

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    7.7 On 4 stroke machines all vent, breather or overflow tubes coming from the engine, transmission or radiator must
    be routed into a heat resistant catch can of at least 350cc capacity or the air box.
    A If the air box is utilized, any drains from the air box must be removed and the air box sealed.
    B. If an airbox is not installed, catch can vent tubes must be routed into the intake area of the carburetors so that any
    overflow from the catch can will be drawn into the engine.
    C. Radiator overflow and battery vent tubes can be routed into a separate catch can which need not have it’s vent
    routed to the intake area

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurlon View Post
    I'd consult the rule book for any questions on tech, as it's the final authority.

    In this case, vent and overflow lines cannot just be routed to the bellypan.
    The belly pan can be considered a big ol' catch can, considering that is why it is there, to catch oil in the event of a cracked case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianC View Post
    The belly pan can be considered a big ol' catch can, considering that is why it is there, to catch oil in the event of a cracked case.
    No, it can't and isn't. It's there if the cankcases let go, it's not meant to catch dribble out of vent and overflow lines, for those you use a bottle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurlon View Post
    No, it can't and isn't. It's there if the cankcases let go, it's not meant to catch dribble out of vent and overflow lines, for those you use a bottle.
    So CEO is lying to me?

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    All this talk about the rulebook got me all excited; I thought the 2011 book was released... yeah..... no. Oh well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrianC View Post
    So CEO is lying to me?
    Intentionally, no. I've never had reason to think he'd steer someone wrong unless he knows you and is just screwing with ya. I just think it's a case of him not realizing the rules say no to just dropping vents to the belly pan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fitz View Post
    All this talk about the rulebook got me all excited; I thought the 2011 book was released... yeah..... no. Oh well.

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    Should be interesting with the changes CCS made upstream... GP bikes get more love, and there is the 250 4 stroke class being tested at NJMP.

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    Re: Count Down Till' 2011 Race Season

    Quote Originally Posted by BrianC View Post
    The belly pan can be considered a big ol' catch can, considering that is why it is there, to catch oil in the event of a cracked case.
    Another country heard from on this one..........................

    One other thing to consider is riding/racing in the rain. I have seen in the past that the lower on some fully faired bikes have some rubber plugs in them such that when it is raining they can be pulled so that rain water doesn't build up in the belly pan during racing and then slosh out in front of your rear tire causing traction issues. I have no idea if this is fully rule book legal but I have definitely seen it done this way. So if you have this situation you would be much better off having a catch can so as to prevent these slippery fluids from draining out in front of your rear tire and causing the aforementioned traction issues.

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    Re: Count Down Till' 2011 Race Season

    Just a personal thought, but I would be doing whatever I could to avoid dropping fluids on the track. Not only to limit the chances of causing yourself to crash, but also to avoid being "that guy" who drops oil on the track causing a multi bike pileup and/or a long delay for fluid cleanup. Its easy enough to run the vents into a plastic bottle ziptied somewhere out of the way.

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