Grom/Mini Racing

[tsorfas]

Those of you who own them and haven't raced them are missing out big time.
We had to travel 5 hours with Cole to OVRP to race them and it was an absolute blast.
Hope we soon see more DOers and less talking around New England soon because it gets tiring driving 5+ hours to have any other racing besides LRRS.
Also another Bravo to Woody for racing his grom with USCRA. If I had one I'd def would have joined him.
And a huge thank you to Cole for allowing me to create #CrashCuties and race his grom.

[nhbubba]

it gets tiring driving 5+ hours to have any other racing besides LRRS.

NEMM

Mini racing. New England. Not a new thing.

[ducatirdr]

It's only 3 hours from my house. I could be talked into finally swapping my Vee Rubber (aka burn-out tires) for my Pilot Power sticky buns I have sitting in the garage.

[nt650hawk]

[breakdirt916]

It's so much fun!!

Move to socal - 2 tracks within an hour, 2 or 3 more within 2 hours!

[sdog30]

According to this picture, Sav and Cole rode 2 up?

[sdog30]

Also, didn't Johnny just say after putting together the grom race for uscra, they only had a couple sign up?

[Kurlon]

One, Chris Woodman. I'm not sticking my neck out for rules proposals again any time soon.

[sdog30]

One, Chris Woodman. I'm not sticking my neck out for rules proposals again any time soon.

Congrats to woody for nailing first. Lol

[Kurlon]

Congrats to woody for nailing first. Lol

Scored with Formula Flyweight, 4th out of 6 starters.

[Johnny B]

One, Chris Woodman. I'm not sticking my neck out for rules proposals again any time soon.

Technically, your rules proposal wasn't legal. Only current USCRA members are supposed to be able to submit them. (or are you still paying membership?)

This was a good example as to why neither LRRS or USCRA comes out with new classes every time the riders ask for them. LRRS got burned with the Harley class way back when, the USCRA tried it a few years back, same deal. USCRA tried bring the PTwins guys over but that fell short because we refused to buy into the belly pan exemption. LRRS tried to bring USCRA riders over with P89 Lights. No dice. Remember the attempted Aprilia Cup revival? Stillborn. We need to see the bikes. Saying you'd buy a bike if we made a class for it is a non starter.

John Dodson told me last month that even with the purse money put up by Honda, WERA's Grom series isn't filling the grids that well outside of the Nationals. He told me the last race he saw only had two starters.

Bob Coy, who owns the USCRA, is a purist. He wants vintage racing. He doesn't want dirt bikes, pit bikes or other things outside of his vision of what vintage racing is all about.

[Kurlon]

Technically, your rules proposal wasn't legal. Only current USCRA members are supposed to be able to submit them. (or are you still paying membership?)

Nope, I'm a noisy outsider at this point. Other than scoring for the endurance a few times my last official USCRA activity was racing my GS500E back in 2008 or 2009. My FZR is Period 4 legal but with everything else going on this year I can't spare the weekends or the cash to play with the vintage crowd. I'm actually surprised they accepted my Formula Flyweight proposal given that, didn't know that minor detail. I'll have to hit Tanner up for some sort of kickback if he wins the class overall.

[tsorfas]

Josh 100% should be an official of some sort with racing in New England. He knows his stuff, he understands rules and how they work and he is not afraid to go and fight for what he thinks is right, even when he has nothing to gain from it.
I for one feel very bad that he wasted his time with the grom thing but hopefully that will change in the near future and the foundation is there.

John you make a great point why we don't have classes left and right for every little promise. I must admit that I get a bit too excited sometimes but I try to not overpromise and definitely not commit to things that I am not sure about.

[WinVT]

Aren't there already enough groms in the LRRS pits to fill a grid?

[tsorfas]

Aren't there already enough groms in the LRRS pits to fill a grid?

And that's what drove the idea. A bunch committed and talked about it but only one did it

[Paul_E_D]

And people wonder why lrrs and other orgs resist change. It's not like they haven't seen it all already. Nothing new under the sun.

[WinVT]

And that's what drove the idea. A bunch committed and talked about it but only one did it

So i'm commenting with no information besides what I've read in this thread, but it sounds like the proposed race was part of USCRA? So was it on a non-lrrs weekend? Or on a Monday?

If so, that is a whole lot different than putting it on an LRRS race day, when everybody and their groms are already down there ready to go. Asking these same riders to come back a different weekend or stay for Monday just to race 1 grom class probably wouldn't work.

[nhbubba]

Josh 100% should be an official of some sort with racing in New England. He knows his stuff, he understands rules and how they work and he is not afraid to go and fight for what he thinks is right, even when he has nothing to gain from it.

I agree except that means he could not compete. And that would be sad.

[tsorfas]

So i'm commenting with no information besides what I've read in this thread, but it sounds like the proposed race was part of USCRA? So was it on a non-lrrs weekend? Or on a Monday?

If so, that is a whole lot different than putting it on an LRRS race day, when everybody and their groms are already down there ready to go. Asking these same riders to come back a different weekend or stay for Monday just to race 1 grom class probably wouldn't work.

yes it was on USCRA Monday immediately after an LRRS weekend

[Kurlon]

The challenge with getting a Grom race in during LRRS is requiring a separate race for them, which means finding time. The USCRA's Formula Flyweight class is basically perfect for indexing the Grom in, so instead of having to squeeze in another race, they could just run with the other comparable speed machines for a test.

[csmutty]

I don't think a grom would be much fun on the full size track anyways.

[Jewcati]

I don't think a grom would be much fun on the full size track anyways.

Forgive my grim naïveté, but with the 235 kit would it be enough fun at an NHMS track day?


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[tsorfas]

I don't think a grom would be much fun on the full size track anyways.

Woody is probably the only person around here who can answer that

[Jim]

Duncan took his out last year at NYST.
Marcelo did a TD session at NHMS with his last year.

[WinVT]

I don't think a grom would be much fun on the full size track anyways.

I haven't been to Canaan yet, but I always thought of that track as a potential home for a Grom series..... closer to me as well