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    Wanted: good post-crash rearsets

    On SV's at least (and presumably GSXR's since they use the same p/n peg), a left Woodcraft peg will oblong and subsequently not allow you to shift after the peg impacts the ground with significant speed/force. I'm sick of DNF'ing because of this, and am looking for opinions on other rearsets. I love supporting a local vendor, and there are of course tons of spares available at the track - but neither does me any good in a race. I'd rather have 75% of the peg break off yet still be able to shift, than have only 10% of the peg grind down but be unable to change gears.

    What rearsets have people had good luck w/after a crash?

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    Re: Wanted: good post-crash rearsets

    Quote Originally Posted by Mustang View Post
    On SV's at least (and presumably GSXR's since they use the same p/n peg), a left Woodcraft peg will oblong and subsequently not allow you to shift after the peg impacts the ground with significant speed/force. I'm sick of DNF'ing because of this, and am looking for opinions on other rearsets. I love supporting a local vendor, and there are of course tons of spares available at the track - but neither does me any good in a race. I'd rather have 75% of the peg break off yet still be able to shift, than have only 10% of the peg grind down but be unable to change gears.

    What rearsets have people had good luck w/after a crash?
    Bill, Woodcraft actually just is coming out with new pegs that will break instead of grinding down. I have one in my spares box and am waiting for them to come out with the new design for the other side, then I will switch over. I can get you a pic of what they look like if you want.

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    if you're talking about the foot peg, some people drill a hole in the middle of the peg to weaken it. That way it just breaks off that piece.

    If you're talking about the shifter peg, Woodcraft already has folding pegs available on their site. I think the shifter one is $18 and the brake one is $15.

    I'm going to replace mine with the folding pegs next time I order.

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    Re: Wanted: good post-crash rearsets

    Here is a pic of the new style Woodcraft peg.



    The holes that you see are all around the peg in that area. (4 holes all together.)

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    Re: Wanted: good post-crash rearsets

    Thanks Christian - I actually just spoke to Eric about this, and he informed me of the same. I'm going to give the prototypes a shot (and hopefully not test them soon).

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    Re: Wanted: good post-crash rearsets

    I would love to hear from Eric if the new style is to specifically address the issue of rounding off and preventing shifting. If so, imma buy me a set of those ASAP.

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    Re: Wanted: good post-crash rearsets

    Quote Originally Posted by PainfullySlow View Post
    I would love to hear from Eric if the new style is to specifically address the issue of rounding off and preventing shifting. If so, imma buy me a set of those ASAP.
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    Re: Wanted: good post-crash rearsets

    The new pegs are slowly being introduced, model by model this year. They have a few updates from previous models:

    1) You can see the waffle pattern on the face as well as the extra flutes cut on the end - all done in the spirit of getting more grip

    2) Weakening holes milled about 1/3 of the way form the end of the peg to provide a break off point. This will help absorb some of the energy of the crash and transfer less force into the peg, base and bracket. All this will help the durability of all the other parts of the rearset.

    3) Slightly thicker wall on the peg once you are past the break off points - giving these pegs a little more "meat" to slide on if the end does break off.

    I expect full integration by the end of the season.....we are always looking for ways to make things better. These updates are from rider feedback, so keep it coming.

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    Re: Wanted: good post-crash rearsets

    As for availability - the pegs for the newest model rearsets that we made are going to be done first and we will slowly work our way back until we have them all done. So, if your model is not there yet it will probably only be a matter of a few months before we have them available as spares.

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    Re: Wanted: good post-crash rearsets

    Thanks, Eric.

    So one of the goals of the new design is to help prevent the shifter & brake pedal arms from getting jammed up after a slip & slide?

    Do you think it would make any difference if the shear point was moved one notch closer to the outer end of the peg?

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    Re: Wanted: good post-crash rearsets

    Great idea, I'll definitely be snagging a set.

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    Re: Wanted: good post-crash rearsets

    Quote Originally Posted by OreoGaborio View Post
    Thanks, Eric.

    So one of the goals of the new design is to help prevent the shifter & brake pedal arms from getting jammed up after a slip & slide?
    This will be an awesome improvement if it lessens the chances of this happening! I've got 3 pegs with a black lever pivot permanently jammed in place; two from crashes and one from falling over in the garage.

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    Re: Wanted: good post-crash rearsets

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Kurtz View Post
    This will be an awesome improvement if it lessens the chances of this happening! I've got 3 pegs with a black lever pivot permanently jammed in place; two from crashes and one from falling over in the garage.
    Based on Eric's suggestion to me, I was able to get my seemingly-permanently jammed peg out of the pivot last night. I threaded the allen screw back into the peg, put the whole ass'y in a vice, and hammered on the screw. Peg popped out after a dozen or so blows. I plan to attack the peg (and my other "spares") and pivot with a Dremel slightly to hopefully keep them as usable spares.

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    Re: Wanted: good post-crash rearsets

    its a good thing I crash on the brake side all the time. I gotta replace that peg cause its very worn down, don't think its bent at all though. that thing is strong and has taken some major abuse hitting the ground. but I'm not on an SV either so the peg design is different anyway.

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    Re: Wanted: good post-crash rearsets

    Quote Originally Posted by Mustang View Post
    Based on Eric's suggestion to me, I was able to get my seemingly-permanently jammed peg out of the pivot last night. I threaded the allen screw back into the peg, put the whole ass'y in a vice, and hammered on the screw. Peg popped out after a dozen or so blows. I plan to attack the peg (and my other "spares") and pivot with a Dremel slightly to hopefully keep them as usable spares.
    Have done this twice now to salvage the rearset brackets, as they are the most expensive part of the whole assembly.

    Great news hearing that Woodcraft is addressing this issue.

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    Re: Wanted: good post-crash rearsets

    Are these new pegs(foot and toe) available yet to buy for replacement parts?

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    Re: Wanted: good post-crash rearsets

    We are introducing these pegs as we move through our older stock - so it depends on the model. Some kits already come with them, others will be later in the year.

    Let me know the model that you are looking to get them for and I'll let you know if we have them done yet. We have a ton of different peg styles, so it takes a little bit to get it all done.

    I used them myself last weekend on my Ducati, and there is a big step forward in grip.....hopefully I don't get to test the breakaway feature anytime soon.

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    Re: Wanted: good post-crash rearsets

    Quote Originally Posted by Woodcraft View Post
    We are introducing these pegs as we move through our older stock - so it depends on the model. Some kits already come with them, others will be later in the year.

    Let me know the model that you are looking to get them for and I'll let you know if we have them done yet. We have a ton of different peg styles, so it takes a little bit to get it all done.

    I used them myself last weekend on my Ducati, and there is a big step forward in grip.....hopefully I don't get to test the breakaway feature anytime soon.
    Anything for an 05 GSXR 600?

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    Re: Wanted: good post-crash rearsets

    SV650 would be a great peg to have on the early list

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    None for the SV yet. I just orders spares a few says ago.

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    Re: Wanted: good post-crash rearsets

    I am assuming none for the older gsxr then. I thought I recalled them using same pegs as SV

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