Motard Belly Pan

[CEO]

This came up in another thread so I thought I'd ask here.

Since apparently there is a new rule about belly pans for motards... what are folks doing?

1. Smutty says he's modding an ex500 pan but I'm not dropping 200 dollars on a fairing to cut up.
2. Turkey pan / zip ties... looking like the cheapest and easiest at this point.

What else? The bike isn't meant to have a lower fairing so no matter what you use it's probably going to look like shit and not do a great job.

[csmutty]

I am not actually doing that. I got rid of my motards. Just offering solutions. I personally would make my own or add other sheet metal to the turkey pan to make it work. I'd use something that has lips on it to prevent the oil from falling out or blowing out.

[Kurlon]

I had to add a pan before running my GS with the USCRA. The initial version was a 9 x 12 baking pan safety wired to the frame. The USCRA required I stick in some absorbant padding as well, and in hind sight it's a good idea in general. The ideal stuff to use is the gray pads the cornerworkers use. It'll suck up oil and keep it in place while ignoring water. I used an expanded steel mesh to hold the pad down and in place. I think you can order actual stick down belly pan pads too but I never researched it after figuring this setup out.

[tls25rs]

The material Kurlon is speaking of is called Pig Mat and they make many different flavors. Of particular interest is the one that only absorbs oil and not water like Josh said that way if it rains the pad doesn't get soaked and cause issues later on.

Joel

[Yknot]

The Pig Mat is fairly expensive. I was gonna try this stuff.

http://www.vatoraccessories.com/view...d_-_Pack_of_10

[JettaJayGLS]

The Pig Mat is fairly expensive. I was gonna try this stuff.

http://www.vatoraccessories.com/view...d_-_Pack_of_10

That's what I was going to use...my dad has a bunch of it. Plus at a buck a sheet, its probably cheap enough to replace every time it rains.

I'm subscribed to this thread, trying to figure out the best way to go about this as well...I've done some searching on supermoto junkie, and they all say baking pan, tinfoil tray, or a generic carbon fiber one available on ebay.

[xsiliconkid]

zip tied turkey pan will probably fail tech

[xsiliconkid]

from 2012 rule book
19.25.5 All fluid catch pans must be mounted in a safe and workman-like manner. (Zip-ties and duct tape do not qualify as safe and workmanlike mounting.)

[CEO]

zip tied turkey pan will probably fail tech

from 2012 rule book
19.25.5 All fluid catch pans must be mounted in a safe and workman-like manner. (Zip-ties and duct tape do not qualify as safe and workmanlike mounting.)

Ok, so since they are asking us to add something that is non-standard and not even commercially available, do they have any suggestions as to how they would like this new rule enforced that doesn't require detailed custom fabrication, isn't ridiculously expensive, allows ground clearance, and doesn't look like complete shit?

[Kurlon]

Lots of safety wire, or hose clamps would be my gotos. I've gotten both through tech before.

[Doc]

There is a good one on ebay...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Supermoto-Be...cb727e&vxp=mtr

[JettaJayGLS]

There is a good one on ebay...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Supermoto-Be...cb727e&vxp=mtr

That's the one I mentioned, but in all honesty, the tinfoil pan will probably provide better containment than that, it doesn't look very deep at all.

[The Snowman]

I did some poking around and didn't come up with anything, except what Doc posted. However, what I did find over on supermotojunkie.com is an issue regarding making the pan easily removable, or else you won't be able to use a standard dirt bike stand with it.

Seems to me like a big PITA to have to remove your belly pan every time you want to put your bike on your stand.

[brady]

$75, carbon fiber, easy mounting......might look nice on a naked SV!

[xsiliconkid]

Ok, so since they are asking us to add something that is non-standard and not even commercially available, do they have any suggestions as to how they would like this new rule enforced that doesn't require detailed custom fabrication, isn't ridiculously expensive, allows ground clearance, and doesn't look like complete shit?

I hear you, just trying to point out tech will be looking. I checked my Motards and also struggle to find a simple solution. lucky i have under frame rock guards that could be the bolt on basis for a pan. Maybe that is the way to go. Start with an aftermarket bolt on rock guard.
i did follow up and ask, as Motards were letvslide for catch pans would that be the casein 2012? Answer came back, no!

[Dannyf]

Do they state a minimum size or capacity?? Would a litespeed skid plate or another skid plate with no holes be considered adequate??

[Trouble]

I had to make one up for my Hawk too. They were exempt until this year as well. I just used some light gauge aluminum sheet and "welded" it with alumaweld.

[JettaJayGLS]

^ that Looks pretty good, I may give that a shot. Looks like rivets primarily holding it together?

[Trouble]

The pan is bent up and I welded the ends on. I pop riveted the mounting brackets to the pan because it was easier than trying to weld the two very different thicknesses of aluminum. I'm sure you could create the same thing with just pop rivets and jb weld on the seams to waterproof it.

[csmutty]

Jay. If you go that route what stands are you going to use to get the tires off the ground for warmers?

[butcher bergs]

How difficult would it be to use a couple jackstands at each end and slide a bar thru the axles in order to park the 'tards?

Considering the possibility and challenge of constantly removing and installing belly pans in order to support the machine on a stand, there has to be a simpler alternative.

The issue I'm seeing is when a dry race turns into a wet race and the riders are given time to swap wheels. This happened last year and even with help swapping wheels on my 600, I barely made it out there in time. Not sure I'd wanna introduce removing body parts to the equation.

Just thinking outloud...

[JettaJayGLS]

Jay. If you go that route what stands are you going to use to get the tires off the ground for warmers?

I have a harbor freight rear stand lying around, I think I can adjust it narrow enough to sit on spools. Either way, any belly pan is going to cause this problem. Perfect world, I'll make the belly pan attach with clips, assuming that will pass tech.

[lrrs428]

How about its not in the rule book so F Off , that works for me, pay attention to it next time. yup if it comes to it

[CEO]

I'm probably going to buy that carbon jobbie I guess. I'll figure out a way to have one side of it be clipped instead of zip tied so I can release one side of when I come in and then use my normal stand. That is of course unless it's strong enough and hugs the contours of the bike enough that I can use the stand with it still installed.

Belly pan plus eject helmet system = two less races I will be able to buy. Thanks LRRS.

How about its not in the rule book so F Off , that works for me, pay attention to it next time. yup if it comes to it

Ummm.... it IS in the rulebook now, that's why we're all trying to figure out what to do, dude.

[Kurlon]

Ugh, I completely forgot about hoisting the thing onto a stand. You could always go back to separate front and rear stands I suppose. The baking pan option could be made sturdy enough but you'd be looking at more than a safety wire mount job. I'm thinking modified skid/rock plate setup sounds better now. Wrap around the frame so the frame still supports the bike on the stand?