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Novice racing question.

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    Novice racing question.

    I've sent I my app for a race license, and just have a few more things to button up before I start racing next year. Here's the downer. I just heard from a friend that I can't race my GSXR 1000 as a novice. Is this true?

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    Re: Novice racing question.

    You can, but only in one race per weekend, the 20 minute GTO race.

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    Re: Novice racing question.

    Quote Originally Posted by tropicoz View Post
    I've sent I my app for a race license, and just have a few more things to button up before I start racing next year. Here's the downer. I just heard from a friend that I can't race my GSXR 1000 as a novice. Is this true?


    No....not at all. You are just limited in the Races that you wil be able to do. My bud chris raced his 07 gsxr 1000 and did well. Just be aware that there isn't much room for error and NHIS is a short track so the 600's dominate..

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    Re: Novice racing question.

    There is nothing wrong with 1 race a weekend!!!

    I did it and I'm still doing it.

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    Re: Novice racing question.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pigman View Post
    No....not at all. You are just limited in the Races that you wil be able to do. My bud chris raced his 07 gsxr 1000 and did well. Just be aware that there isn't much room for error and NHIS is a short track so the 600's dominate..
    Novice is limited to GT races for a 1000.

    and be very careful racing a 1000 at Loudon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Kurtz View Post
    You can, but only in one race per weekend, the 20 minute GTO race.
    Not true either. There are HW races in Novice.

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    Re: Novice racing question.

    Quote Originally Posted by nt650hawk View Post
    There is nothing wrong with 1 race a weekend!!!
    Yep, so long as you don't mind being a Novice for 25 years.

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    Re: Novice racing question.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy 2 Shots View Post
    Not true either. There are HW races in Novice.
    750

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    Re: Novice racing question.

    hah. i dont see the rule in the rulebook now so whatever, run the 1000 in all the hw and gto, unlimited races.

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    Re: Novice racing question.

    Hah. Looking at the rule book, there are no specific class descriptions for novice. Only amateur and expert. I suspect this is deliberate and means "run what ya brung, in moderation". After all, Novice is just a kinda get your feet wet kind of class.

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    Re: Novice racing question.

    Do you need to apply for a license in the winter?

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    Re: Novice racing question.

    Quote Originally Posted by butcher bergs View Post
    Yep, so long as you don't mind being a Novice for 25 years.
    did 10 races and bumped. No big deal. I had more fun hanging around the track, watching and learing the turns. Method to my madness.

    Just saying you don't need to do more than 1 race a weekend.

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    Re: Novice racing question.

    Quote Originally Posted by maxim_X View Post
    Do you need to apply for a license in the winter?
    Have you completed the Penguin School?
    If yes then sure.
    If no see you in April.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Degsy View Post
    hah. i dont see the rule in the rulebook now so whatever, run the 1000 in all the hw and gto, unlimited races.
    Just admit that I'm right damn it !

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    Re: Novice racing question.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy 2 Shots View Post
    Just admit that I'm right damn it !
    Jim, you were right!!!!!

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    Re: Novice racing question.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy 2 Shots View Post
    Not true either. There are HW races in Novice.
    Quote Originally Posted by Degsy View Post
    Hah. Looking at the rule book, there are no specific class descriptions for novice. Only amateur and expert. I suspect this is deliberate and means "run what ya brung, in moderation". After all, Novice is just a kinda get your feet wet kind of class.
    Interesting, I also thought heavyweight was restricted to 750cc I4 bikes.

    Rich gets around NHMS pretty darn good, so I think he'll do okay racing the bike bike(until he decides to ditch it to have more fun on something that can race more classes)...as long as he can keep the swingarm in one piece.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nt650hawk View Post
    Have you completed the Penguin School?
    If yes then sure.
    If no see you in April.
    I havent completed Penguin.
    Is there any actions I need to take now? Will I be able to participate in round 1 or it wont work out with licensing and getting a race number?

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    Re: Novice racing question.

    do Penguin on Friday, get number at end of day or next, race on Saturday and Sunday.

    see you in April

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    Re: Novice racing question.

    So once you complete Penguin you can apply for the license? There is nothing you need to do ahead of time? I'm really unfamiliar with the procedure. Are the rules for 2012 posted?

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    Re: Novice racing question.

    do everything that first weekend. take school, pass, get assigned a number, race, get official license a few weeks later

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    Re: Novice racing question.

    It is a busy Friday and Saturday morning. IT can be done . We all have been thru it. It helps to have support to run around and pick things up and get things situated.

    You can have:
    White front section and white tail number plates ready to go for April.
    All your safety wire done.

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    Re: Novice racing question.

    Quote Originally Posted by FirstDuc-1098 View Post
    do everything that first weekend. take school, pass, get assigned a number, race, get official license a few weeks later
    ^ This.

    You will get a temporary (paper) copy of your CCS/LRRS license after completing Penguin School. (Isn't Fishtail also able to qualify you for your license?)

    From this point, just latch onto someone you know to show you the process. It's not difficult once you get used to it. It's just that there's a bit more to do your rookie weekend. Such as, getting your number and putting them on your bike.

    The rest is still the same, registration (you will NOT be able to pre-register if you do not yet have your license, which you won't if you haven't done Penguin yet) and tech.

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    Re: Novice racing question.

    Penguin needs to be done on Friday correct?
    Then I can register and pass tech on Saturday. I can have the wife with blank white plates and fully wired.

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    Re: Novice racing question.

    Looking at the proposed 2012 rule book, there are 12 official novice classes listed:

    Novice UL, LW, MW and HW Superbike
    Novice UL GTL, GTL, GTU and GTO
    Novice UL GP, LW GP, MW GP and HW GP

    There is no such definition for HW GP, but there is Unlimited GP... that and GTO would be the only classes that a 1000cc inline 4 would be legal for. A sprint and a GT is a good workout, especially if you're wrestling a liter bike around.

    There is also this gem: 4.4Riders must enter for the lowest displacement class that their motorcycle is eligible for and "riding up a class" is not allowed. The rules for each class will be based on a similar standard CCS class

    So much for cherry picking HWSB with my GS500...

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    Re: Novice racing question.

    Quote Originally Posted by tsorfas View Post
    Penguin needs to be done on Friday correct?
    Then I can register and pass tech on Saturday. I can have the wife with blank white plates and fully wired.
    Penguin is teh Friday before all race events. You can have your bike all done in complete race trim before you head out Friday morning, no need to rush around after it's over.....except you won't have numbers yet, but those are relatively easy. Plates can be on it.

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