Questions about getting into racing

[Jewcati]

I know nothing about lrrs racing, but I am considering giving it a go next year.

I have a gsxr 750, and I am baffled by what classes / races I would be eligible to race in.

Any direction would be helpful.


Also, what is needed, costs, garage space...etc

Thanks

[union]

Quick look at the rule book you can race in

Formula 1
Starter 1
Rookie 1

You dont need a garage but they are nice to have. Best bet is to find someone that has an open spot.

How prepped is your bike?

Minimum I can think of off the top of my head

Bodywork from around 650 to 1500 unpainted
Engine case covers
Drilling bolts for safety wiring


Gear

Race suit from leather
Gauntlet style gloves
Motorcycle boots
Helmet not made from polycarbonate and less then 5 years old.

Come to watch. Walk around the garages see what people have and ask questions.


Where are you located?

[Rada]

As a novice you will be in the 1 races. Formula 1, Rookie 1, Starter 1.
Once you make it to Am you will be in the HW brackets.

Cost..
How much do you have?
Garages are not needed but very nice. A bay goes for $1225 for the season. Most crews split them 4 ways. Often you can find someone to rent from.

You will want to get a set of tire warmers too along with front and rear stands. Spare wheels with Rain tires are nice but not absolutely needed. If you run three races you will spend $180 per weekend. Your crew will need to get in the gate if you have a crew.
Camping is a reasonable fee.

The big kicker is travel and tires.

Overall a typical weekend can run in the $400-$600 range pretty easy.


Best bet is to come up to the races and chat with some racers. Stop by center garage 2. We can help shed some light on things..

Good luck and have fun..

[timmyho414]

plus...

first weekend stuff
Penguin Roadracing School, Basic class for your license $250-280
CCS License good for the year $125
Eject thing for your helmet $60

I'd get rearsets and clip-ons too. woodcrafts are nice. probably 500 right there.
Unless you have your heart set on racing your bike look around for a use race/track bike. The 750 will only fit heavy weight classes,1000's. Most of the time you can buy a race bike for less then it would cost to build your own. Just an option.

There are two weekends left for LRRS, as the other said, come up, walk around, ask questions but to warn you and to quote Peter Egan: "Motorcycle roadracing makes heroin addition look like a mild craving for something salty."

[tsorfas]

These guys fucking nailed it! Don't read any further! This is it. Anything else come see for yourself.
It's a great atmosphere with great people.

[Jewcati]

Thanks for the responses. My bike is a race prepped bike that I already purchased, and I have the rains, wheels and warmers. I guess my main question is about the classes. Besides cc size, is there any difference in the level of competition? Does bike size matter in novice? I understand that in amateur, the 750 is an HW, if I want to ride MW do the 675 and 848 qualify?

Thanks!

plus...

first weekend stuff
Penguin Roadracing School, Basic class for your license $250-280
CCS License good for the year $125
Eject thing for your helmet $60

I'd get rearsets and clip-ons too. woodcrafts are nice. probably 500 right there.
Unless you have your heart set on racing your bike look around for a use race/track bike. The 750 will only fit heavy weight classes,1000's. Most of the time you can buy a race bike for less then it would cost to build your own. Just an option.

There are two weekends left for LRRS, as the other said, come up, walk around, ask questions but to warn you and to quote Peter Egan: "Motorcycle roadracing makes heroin addition look like a mild craving for something salty."

[FirstDuc-1098]

For Novice you can run one of the '2' races. For a total of 4 races, 2 each day. A 675 and a 848 would fall into the MW of most Amateur races.

[carsick]

Racing is a young love. You have to be all in. There will be euphoria, and despair, it will consume your thoughts, and it will change you more than you expected. You'll always talk of what could have been, and think about getting back to it. It may hurt you, and it will cost a great deal. For me, close competition is worth more than a win (because I'm slow that's my only choice!). The pits are full of generous people who will share knowledge, skill, labor and parts with you to help get you on your feet. See above. You'll meet some role models and some nutjobs, with a little overlap occasionally. Words don't convey the experience, you have to do it.

[GingahNinjah]

You'll meet some role models and some nutjobs, with a little overlap occasionally. Words don't convey the experience, you have to do it.

<==== little bit of overlap but mostly nutjob. come say hi. more than happy to help if I can

[Rada]

For Novice you can run one of the '2' races. For a total of 4 races, 2 each day. A 675 and a 848 would fall into the MW of most Amateur races.

Are you sure about that? The twos are limited to 660cc

[Jim]

Honestly, sell the 750 motor, ecu, and airbox and switch it over to a 600.

750 motors sell more than the 600's and you'll be eligible for a lot more classes once you bump to amateur.

The 750's are eligible for Unlimited, GTO, and HW races. 600's can enter in any of those 6 classes, plus GTU, and all 3 MW races.

[Jewcati]

Wouldn't it just be easier to sell the 750 and get a 600?

QUOTE=Jimmy Faceplant;1305560]Honestly, sell the 750 motor, ecu, and airbox and switch it over to a 600.

750 motors sell more than the 600's and you'll be eligible for a lot more classes once you bump to amateur.

The 750's are eligible for Unlimited, GTO, and HW races. 600's can enter in any of those 6 classes, plus GTU, and all 3 MW races.[/QUOTE]

[Jewcati]

Wouldn't the 848 twin and 675 triple quality in MW then?

QUOTE=Rada;1305559]Are you sure about that? The twos are limited to 660cc
[/QUOTE]

[Chippertheripper]

Yes.

[union]

The triple 675 triumph and the twin 848 ducati are considered middle weight bikes. The inline 4s are up to 600 and I think the kawasaki 636 can race mw

[Jim]

Wouldn't it just be easier to sell the 750 and get a 600?

Depending what you've got in that 750, might be better off just swapping motors.

[Jewcati]

My issue is that I have a street 1199s and a track 750. I no longer want to ride street. Should I:

1) race the 750?
2) convert the 1199 to track? So I don't lose my money in resale
3) sell both and get an MW bike
4) wait and see how much time / I like racing?

I am sure I will be slow on any bike and will be in novice for a while.

[Chippertheripper]

Sell both, buy a cheap commutesicle, a race tard, a grom, and a plated woods bike. Invest the rest.

[RyanNicholson]

Do not race the 1199. Sell it if you like but converting it will make it close to worthless as far as reselling it goes. Not to mention how you're gonna feel when you pitch it over the hill in T4. Race the 750 if you like, personally if I were in your situation I would probably race the 750 if it's already prepped. Once you get a feel for whether you like racing (you will, I'm just saying so for GP) figure out which classes are more your style and go from there. I'm a MW guy so I would lean towards selling the 750 and buying a 600 but that's just me, different strokes for different folks.

[Jewcati]

That is kind of what I am thinking too....

Do not race the 1199. Sell it if you like but converting it will make it close to worthless as far as reselling it goes. Not to mention how you're gonna feel when you pitch it over the hill in T4. Race the 750 if you like, personally if I were in your situation I would probably race the 750 if it's already prepped. Once you get a feel for whether you like racing (you will, I'm just saying so for GP) figure out which classes are more your style and go from there. I'm a MW guy so I would lean towards selling the 750 and buying a 600 but that's just me, different strokes for different folks.

[DZircher]

costs

All I can say is that I'm pretty pragmatic and I calculated my startup costs to the line item. Then I added 20% for unforeseen items. I was still nearly 30% off my adjusted estimates. But it's been one of the most amazing ventures I've had. Amazingly awesome people in the paddock, great instructors, mentors and friends.

Stop down to center #15 and say hi at round #6!

-diz

[theducman]

I am racing on a shoestring budget. I save anyway I can. I buy take off tires, eat pp&j for dinner, sleep in my truck, anything I can.

[nhbubba]

[FirstDuc-1098]

Wouldn't the 848 twin and 675 triple quality in MW then?

Yea, Rada wasn't thinking the 675 as a triple.

[tsorfas]

Keep going