Race License

[Rambunctous]

so a LRRS novice is just like a Canadian amateur.

Absolutely not.

[Pittenger5]

Dont bother getting your race license until youre ready to race. Stick to track days till then.

[FireboltEric_MA]

Can this thread get back on topic?

We should be talking about Jim & racing in here!

Oh...Hey Jim!

[-jro-]

Hey Lauren- I attended the Track Experience back in April and it's a good program. Scott Greenwood is a fantastic instructor and a wealth of information, the class tends to be smaller and this means a lot of personal attention to your riding and progression. If you have intentions of racing this season/year, then by all means take the basic course so you can race the rookie race. BUT- if you are really teetering on the fence...and more towards the "probably not going to race" side....then the track experience course may be of more value. Either way, you're in good hands

[scottieducati]

What is this Jim.... and Racing... you speak of???

Can this thread get back on topic?

We should be talking about Jim & racing in here!

Oh...Hey Jim!

[RocketPunch]

If you decided to get the license and do the RR at the same time, there will be an addition cost (license/race fee) to it than simply doing the track experience.

[Femmekat]

Sorry to resurrect this thread... but I'm still totally on the fence about whether to do the basic course or track day experience. Yes, I definitely plan on racing, but probably not this season as I don't have the cash flow for a track/race bike yet. Which class will I learn the most in? I am currently running as a "slow" intermediate at Bomo track days. It is my understanding that it is $100 extra to get a race license? I would especially like to hear opinions from those I have been on track with who know where my riding is at right now....

[Trouble]

If you go the Penguin route it's the cost of the school plus $120 for your license plus $80 to enter the rookie race and one other race so you get your license.

[CBR929RE]

If you go the Penguin route it's the cost of the school plus $120 for your license plus $80 to enter the rookie race and one other race so you get your license.

no wonder I don't race. I'm too fucking cheap to get the damn license.

[csmutty]

If you go the Penguin route it's the cost of the school plus $120 for your license plus $80 to enter the rookie race and one other race so you get your license.

It's $80 to enter the rookie race?! That doesn't make sense. An 8 lap race is $65.

[CEO]

The rookie race itself doesn't cost anything, you have to enter one normal race and the rookie race must be completed for you to do that race.

I.e. do your penguin, get your license, sign up (pre-reg if you can so you can get the $60 cost) for one race and on saturday successfully do your rookie race in order to then be allowed to do the race you signed up for.

If you're "that guy" and you fuck up your rookie race and crash they may not let you do your real race, you'll probably get your money back though I think.

[DucDave]

A friend of mine was 'that guy'. He didn't get his money back. He was told he could try again within a year.

....and no, it wasn't me...

[theducman]

Good info here, I am also looking to get into racing with in the next few years. Is there a set amout of races that you must enter a year to keep your license? I know you have to do the rookie race but after that is there a set amount?

[RocketPunch]

I believe $80 bucks is the rookie race + 1 race. In addition the license fee is prorated, it is $85 after July 1st and $55 after Sept 1st.

http://www.nhms.com/documents/2010_renewal_app.pdf

["Dangerous" Dan K]

Good info here, I am also looking to get into racing with in the next few years. Is there a set amout of races that you must enter a year to keep your license? I know you have to do the rookie race but after that is there a set amount?

1 I think... it's 1 a year or 1 every 2 years. Not many.

[Trouble]

It's $80 to enter the rookie race?! That doesn't make sense. An 8 lap race is $65.

Just sayin' what it cost me this spring. I didn't preregister. I just showed up, signed up and handed over the plastic.

["Dangerous" Dan K]

Just sayin' what it cost me this spring. I didn't preregister. I just showed up, signed up and handed over the plastic.

I thought it was $60... plus a $20 "late entry" fee because you did not pre-reg. And you can't pre-reg without a license.

Also, the RR is free. The tricky part is, to do tech, practice, get on track, etc. you need to register for another race. That's where the $80 comes from. You can't do your RR if you are not reg'd for another race.

At least this is how it worked, best as I can remember, when I did it all last year.

[FireboltEric_MA]

Lauren, I personally think you would get more from the "track experience" part of penguin if you DON'T plan to race THIS year.

The basic course is okay, but a lot of the time is going over flags, BIKE/PERSONAL preparation, Griding, Launches, how the countdown happens and basically what is going to happen during your first couple days of racing.

I "personally" would want to do that type of class "right before you really get out there."

The track experience sound like a way better option for you IMO.

Good Luck in whatever you choose & Just have FUN!

-Eric

[The Snowman]

Lots of great info once this thread got back on track. (pun intended)

I've already registered for Penguin Basic Race school. So all I have to do it register for the RR and at least one other race (I plan on doing 3 other the 8/7-8 weekend, including the GTL on Sunday.) and I'll be good.

["Dangerous" Dan K]

Lauren, I personally think you would get more from the "track experience" part of penguin if you DON'T plan to race THIS year.

The basic course is okay, but a lot of the time is going over flags, BIKE/PERSONAL preparation, Griding, Launches, how the countdown happens and basically what is going to happen during your first couple days of racing.

I "personally" would want to do that type of class "right before you really get out there."

The track experience sound like a way better option for you IMO.

Good Luck in whatever you choose & Just have FUN!

-Eric

Granted I'm fairly new, and have only done one TD (not penguin), but I disagree. Mostly just to disagree with Eric.

If you do the race school, it's balls out (in your case tits out) riding. You'll get used to passing and being passed, and you'll have that drive to haul ass. To me, that was invaluable. That said, I have been whooped by people that TDd first. Yet, in NV, preteen and I won a LOT of races. Neither had any TD experience.

If you want a real answer and not interwebz bullshit, ask one of the Wood brothers. I fully support whatever they say, and revoke this post to mimick what they said. If you're shy or don't know them, show up at my garage (C12) at a race weekend and I'll introduce you. What they say is law. Fuck everyone else.

[csmutty]

I thought it was $60... plus a $20 "late entry" fee because you did not pre-reg. And you can't pre-reg without a license.

Also, the RR is free. The tricky part is, to do tech, practice, get on track, etc. you need to register for another race. That's where the $80 comes from. You can't do your RR if you are not reg'd for another race.

At least this is how it worked, best as I can remember, when I did it all last year.

Correct. The Rookie Race is free. Signing up for another race and paying for the race license is where the money starts to come in. At least for you guys the registration office is in the media center instead of in the ticket office.

[The Snowman]

Gonna be an expensive weekend for me. Thinking I'll run Rookie Race and two races on Saturday (race 10 [F40Lite] and 12 [LWGP]) and two races on Sunday (race 1 [GTL] and race 11 [LWSS]).

What are your thoughts on Saturday? I'm going to be scampering with only one race between the two non-rookie races. Is that nuts for a first weekend?

[union]

Gonna be an expensive weekend for me. Thinking I'll run Rookie Race and two races on Saturday (race 10 [F40Lite] and 12 [LWGP]) and two races on Sunday (race 1 [GTL] and race 11 [LWSS]).

What are your thoughts on Saturday? I'm going to be scampering with only one race between the two non-rookie races. Is that nuts for a first weekend?

Its a littler tiring but I did it this year on Saturday until they changed the schedule a little. Should be able to do it just find someone to give you a hand when you roll in from the first race.

[FireboltEric_MA]

yea, you'll be fine Chuck. gives ya time for a drink, gas, piss, check everything and a small break. If someone is helping your definitely good.

I was running 1 & 3 on Sundays and did fine on my own & 1 is a 20 minute endurance race.

End of 3 & I was pretty tired, but it is a nice feeling.

[nhtodd]

Very informative thread for us new guys. Now does it change anything being an AMA member. I'd always thought to get a race license you had to be an AMA member. Just a thought.