How many races can i enter?

[dudutzu]

Hi guys
I've been thinking about starting racing my cbr 1000
looked thru the rules book and the only class i found i can race the 1000 as novice is GTO, is any other classes/races that i can enter or just that one?
thanx

[Speed Demon 828]

No. That is the only class you can enter. Don't take it personally but Novices and big bikes don't mix so well at Loudon.

[6 Fingered Man]

You could buy my f4i so i'm not tempted to race it....

I would not recommended starting your racing career on a cbr1000 at Loudon. You can buy a cheap race bike for what your first low side on that thing will cost (Hawk!) and that is a lot of bike for that track.
Not based on my experience but more on what i have heard so take it for what its worth.

[dudutzu]

No. That is the only class you can enter. Don't take it personally but Novices and big bikes don't mix so well at Loudon.

Yeah, makes sense for any track not just Loudon

[csmutty]

You could buy my f4i so i'm not tempted to race it....

I would not recommended starting your racing career on a cbr1000 at Loudon. You can buy a cheap race bike for what your first low side on that thing will cost (Hawk!) and that is a lot of bike for that track.
Not based on my experience but more on what i have heard so take it for what its worth.

Doc...I blame you for this.

[dudutzu]

You could buy my f4i so i'm not tempted to race it....

I would not recommended starting your racing career on a cbr1000 at Loudon. You can buy a cheap race bike for what your first low side on that thing will cost (Hawk!) and that is a lot of bike for that track.
Not based on my experience but more on what i have heard so take it for what its worth.

Im not too worried about the bike, I already lowsided it twice and at Loudon during trackdays
the thing is that when i got the bike i wasnt thinking about racing it and right now dont have funds for another bike, so im kinda stuck...

[Doc]

Doc...I blame you for this.

I am the Hawk Pusher. Now I just gotta complete the one I am building.

[Doc]

Im not too worried about the bike, I already lowsided it twice and at Loudon during trackdays
the thing is that when i got the bike i wasnt thinking about racing it and right now dont have funds for another bike, so im kinda stuck...

If you can't afford another bike you can't afford racing. Trust me.

[dudutzu]

If you can't afford another bike you can't afford racing. Trust me.

the way i see it, another bike + racing expenses > racing expenses
either way looks like no racing for me
cuz i dont see myself doing it for just one race

[Doc]

Considering you can get a racebike for $1000 on this forum and race it for cheaper than 1 race a weekend on that 1000, I see it differently.

[dudutzu]

Considering you can get a racebike for $1000 on this forum and race it for cheaper than 1 race a weekend on that 1000, I see it differently.

where?
i must missed it, have a link?

[Doc]

http://www.nestreetriders.com/forum/...e-package.html

[6 Fingered Man]

There was an ex for sale recently for $1000, but i don't know if it sold.

I might rent out my f4i (race ready, ohlins shock the works) to pay my race fees. It would be a better option than the cbr1000 and cheaper than renting a penguin bike. I think Gino was thinking of renting out a spare hawk also.

[OreoGaborio]

If you can't afford another bike you can't afford racing. Trust me.

True
And conversely... if you think can afford to race a 1000, you can afford to buy another bike that's cheaper to run.

I don't race a 600 for the sole reason that I can't afford to be buying upwards of 8 sets of tires a year. My SV only cost me a few grand and I'm only went through 3 rears & 2 fronts last year at a reasonably competitive Expert level.

And back when i raced my EX500 I sold it in '08 with the same tires that were on it when I purchased it in '06.

[Doc]

EX500 uses what 1 set every 2 years?

[OreoGaborio]

'bout that Depends on who's ridin on em & how much foogoo madgik they got

[Kurlon]

I might rent out my f4i (race ready, ohlins shock the works) to pay my race fees.

I'm never going to talk you into running that thing am I?

[LowSider]

EX500 uses what 1 set every 2 years?

Less (at a lower level). You will need to buy new tires because of heat cycles before you wear the tire.

Odds are, you're not even really heating up the tire on an EX to constitute a heat cycle unless you're going at a good clip.

[6 Fingered Man]

I'm never going to talk you into running that thing am I?

Not as long as i am focusing on getting fast on a small bike. I know i can ride a 600 i want to devote all my track time to the hawk. Unless i keep breaking it and need to ride the 600.... '

But you can run it any time

[dudutzu]

what about this guys?
you think is worth it? or too much trouble to fix it?

http://worcester.craigslist.org/mcy/1691961504.html



"***THIS BIKE DOES NOT CURRENTLY RUN***

Selling my NT650 Hawk. This Bike has been extensively modified. Faulty Cometic head gasket blew and it has been sitting ever since, due to life getting in the way. The following is a pretty complete list of mods and parts. Looking to get 1500.00 or best reasonable offer. Would be a great project bike for street or track, or it could probably be parted out for a return well over asking price.

Parts List (Built)

JE Pistons (12.5:1 compression ratio 2 sizes over) 702?
Carillo Rods
1mm over Intake valves (2Bros)
Titanium Valve retainers (2Bros)
Adjustable Ignition Advancer(2Bros)
Factory Jet Kit (jetted for 5k ft)
M4 High Rise Full Exhaust system with polished bracket (this exhaust system is nearly pristine and tuned almost perfectly from the factory)
Vortex triple clamp
Vortex Clipons
Progressive Fork Springs
Chafong preload adjuster caps
Chafong Rearsets
VFR 5.5" Rear Wheel and Hub Conversion (this is only supposed to take a 170 tire and won't rub with that config)
F2 Front Wheel
AirTech RC31 Bodywork and mounting
Michelin Race Slicks (barely worked in -only about 6 hours of track time)
Galfer SS front brake line (Clipon length)
The sub frame was modded for the rear tail


Parts not on Bike

Dual headlight setup for RC30/31 Bodywork
Rear Pit Stand
Stock Wheels
Spare Stock cams (never sent them to get done)
CBR 900 Rear shock (never mounted)
Stock Airbox
Galfer SS rear brake line


This bike could be completely street worthy with some work, It actually only has about 15 hours on the motor build and only ran JP race gas (wouldn't be require at a lower elevation than 5k) and Honda oil with 2 oil changes. In addition to the head gasket being blown, there is a pinhole leak in the split case that leaks a bit of oil. A good mechanic could probably fix both for around 4 bills I would think. All of the machine work was done by a respectable machinist and I did the rest of the build (I worked in a bike shop for years...I guess I just didn't get a perfect seal on the split case)
Unfortunately it has been sitting for a while, so it will definitely need a good going over in addition to the repairs. "

[csmutty]

EX500 uses what 1 set every 2 years?

EX guys never get new tires...you are better off trying to figure out how many licks it takes to get to the center of a tootsie pop.

[6 Fingered Man]

Less (at a lower level). You will need to buy new tires because of heat cycles before you wear the tire.

Odds are, you're not even really heating up the tire on an EX to constitute a heat cycle unless you're going at a good clip.

Case and point, Dans bike (ex) has 6 year old Dunlops he is replacing because of age not wear.

[LowSider]

There are enough Hawk people on this forum and at LRRS to get probably any hawk to a race ready state with the parts and experience.

I think Doc has one almost ready... was trying to pawn it off on me yesterday

[6 Fingered Man]

what about this guys?
you think is worth it? or too much trouble to fix it?
. "

I think everyone on the hawk forum has emailed that guy and not gotten a response. I think it is either sold or his contact info is wrong. But YES if you can get in touch with him i would suggest buying it.

[Doc]

I think everyone on the hawk forum has emailed that guy and not gotten a response. I think it is either sold or his contact info is wrong. But YES if you can get in touch with him i would suggest buying it.

I actually spoke to him at length about the bike. It is a rather odd build but for the sum of the parts I think $1500 is worth it. Even if the motor is stock and not a 700. You could sell all the street parts and be into that bike for maybe $1000. I'd buy it if I hadn't just bought a 450x.

When I get "B" Hawk track ready it will come with spares (front and rear rim) and I'll want to get $1500 (but mine will be running)

If you buy it, Matt Stone could replace the head gasket at a good price.

Nothing wrong with that EX500 though!