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    Well raced Canaan yesterday!
    Gota say some of the best pavement I have raced on. track is interesting and technical, not the biggest place and, on my Ducati, it was one gear all the way around. still was a hoot to ride a couple of spots where you didn't what to come off but not the worst place.
    Spartan facilities, porta potties. no electric, descent stores down the street, gets points for being clean. overall i would do it again but need a RV tent camping is not for me anymore.
    going to rate it 6th


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    Daytona
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    Quote Originally Posted by MUZ720 View Post
    Well raced Canaan yesterday!
    Gota say some of the best pavement I have raced on. track is interesting and technical, not the biggest place and, on my Ducati, it was one gear all the way around. still was a hoot to ride a couple of spots where you didn't what to come off but not the worst place.
    Spartan facilities, porta potties. no electric, descent stores down the street, gets points for being clean. overall i would do it again but need a RV tent camping is not for me anymore.
    going to rate it 6th


    Mid Ohio
    VIR
    Barber
    NJ
    Tamworth
    Canaan
    Daytona
    Homestead
    Bryar motorsport park
    Bridgehampton
    NHMS
    Roebling
    Carolina
    Roebling will go way up if you go now. it just got repaved in May

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    Roebling will go way up if you go now. it just got repaved in May
    I should like Roebling More but it bitt me hard at over 120 and once bitten its hard to love the one that hurt you!

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    updated list after this weekend

    1. VIR
    2. Road America
    3. Pitt Race
    4. Summit Point
    5. Roebling
    6. Daytona
    7. NJMP
    8. Blackhawk Farms
    9. Autobahn Country Club (south)
    10. Homestead
    11. Carolina Motorsports Park
    12. NHMS
    13. Talladega Grand Prix
    14. Autobahn Country Club (north)
    15. Monticello (south)
    16. NC Bike (with chicane)
    17. anything besides Thompson
    18. Thompson

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    Re: Rate that Track

    I did the fan laps at the COTA motoGP round. It doesn't really count, but I got the sense that it is a super fun track to ride. A lot more elevation change than it appears on TV. Cool mix of fast/med/slow corners and that linked series of esses. It is definitely now on my bucket list to ride.

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    Re: Rate that Track

    Speaking of tracks really far away from us, there's a really cool site to find trackdays from a ton of orgs throughout the country. In case y'all didn't already know about it: https://trackdays.fyi

    COTA is $$$!!!

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    i'm going to Road Atlanta soon for the first time. looking forward to doing some laps there

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    Re: Rate that Track

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim View Post
    17. anything besides Thompson
    18. Thompson
    I lol'd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheIglu View Post
    I lol'd.
    That is funny. As much as I hate to admit it, I have come to enjoy Thompson, if for nothing other than the last 4 turns and the ensuing straight. Getting it squared up and holding it pinned over the crest inducing a wheelie/slide/tank slapper with the wheel still in the air is a pretty epic feeling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_E_D View Post
    That is funny. As much as I hate to admit it, I have come to enjoy Thompson, if for nothing other than the last 4 turns and the ensuing straight. Getting it squared up and holding it pinned over the crest inducing a wheelie/slide/tank slapper with the wheel still in the air is a pretty epic feeling.
    i did one day there counter clockwise and thought "people pay to ride here". i thought NHMS was ugly, till i rode thompson. it will forever remain at the bottom of my list

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    if anyone that's been to Roebling before the repave last May, i'd encourage going back

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim View Post
    i did one day there counter clockwise and thought "people pay to ride here". i thought NHMS was ugly, till i rode thompson. it will forever remain at the bottom of my list
    CCW I will never do again. Awkward and not safe enough.

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    Road Atlanta is a new one for me this weekend. It’s getting ranked up there on my list.


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    updated list after this weekend

    1. VIR (north, south, full, grand)
    2. Road America
    3. Pitt Race
    4. Road Atlanta
    5. Summit Point
    6. Roebling
    7. Daytona
    8. NJMP
    9. Blackhawk Farms
    10. Autobahn Country Club (south)
    11. Homestead
    12. Carolina Motorsports Park
    13. NHMS
    14. Talladega Grand Prix
    15. Autobahn Country Club (north)
    16. Monticello (south)
    17. NC Bike (with and without the chicane)
    18. anything besides Thompson
    19. Thompson (counter clockwise)

    looking forward to adding Barber to this list in 2 months

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    Jim I really think you need to specify "Thompson Counter Clockwise"... as Paul said, we don't even ride that direction anymore.

    I really wasn't a fan of Thompson either for the first couple of years we went there... but like Paul, it's grown on me. The only section I don't really like is the oval... so exit of T5 through entrance of T7. The rest is pretty fun. T4 is a little slow for my liking but it's a good training corner.

    Obviously it's not a dedicated roadracing course and shouldn't be considered as such... However the same can be said of Palmer, which I love. I think trying to rank dedicated roadracing courses and track day tracks in the same list is like trying to rank apples and oranges. Sure it can be done but you need a lot of asterixis if you want to actually tell the whole story and represent each track honestly and in good faith.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OreoGaborio View Post
    ... trying to rank dedicated roadracing courses and track day tracks in the same list is like trying to rank apples and oranges...
    Which I will now do

    My last ranking list was SEVEN FRIKKIN YEARS ago... so let's revisit and update....

    From 2016:

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    Updates...

    1 Chuckwalla
    1 NHMS (mainly cuz I know it so well)
    1 NYST downtown
    1 VIR North
    1 NJMP Thunderbolt
    1 Palmer, MA
    1 Thompson, CT
    8 NYST Uptown
    9 Monticello North
    10 Monticello 66
    11 VIR South
    12 NJMP Lightning (in the rain for 10 laps. Couldn't get a decent feel for it but it needs more turns)
    13 Center Garage pit bike circuit at 2am, racing Gerard's XR70 against Peter Kates on his scooter. Track surface was slick, garbage barrels were in the way and the officials were super bitchy cuz they were trying to sleep in the middle of a race.
    Yes, that was 7 number 1's on that list... but I like NYST Uptown a bit more now I think. Better than Thompson at least, so I'd flip those... Hmm...


    Chuckwalla
    NHMS (mainly cuz I know it so well)
    NYST downtown
    VIR North
    NJMP Thunderbolt
    Palmer
    NYST Uptown
    Remlap (Palmer Clockwise)
    Monticello North
    Monticello 66
    Thompson Clockwise
    VIR South
    Thompson Counter Clockwise
    NJMP Lightning (in the rain for 10 laps. Couldn't get a decent feel for it but it needs more turns)
    Center Garage pit bike circuit

    That seems like a decent ranking order, but these are by no means on a linear scale... at least 8 of them could easily be in my top 5 depending on the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OreoGaborio View Post
    Jim I really think you need to specify "Thompson Counter Clockwise"... as Paul said, we don't even ride that direction anymore.
    that track just sketches me out. i've been to some questionable tracks before but that one is a place i dont want to revisit, regardless of direction.

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    Yeah I get that, but you get sketched out by...

    .......... ya know what? Nevermind... it doesn't even matter.

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    Pete you need to try Road Atl.

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    Jim, your track list is pretty epic. Lots of places I've never been. I need to get busy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_E_D View Post
    Jim, your track list is pretty epic. Lots of places I've never been. I need to get busy!
    I gotta give Jim credit for that also. At first it annoyed me how much shit he talked about NHMS but he was def the one that constantly pushed to visit new tracks. We had some good times and road trips together.

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    thanks guys. I just didnt enjoy a "series" that went to the same track 7-8 times a year. I didn't understand how some of the veterans could do it for 20+ years. I won my first race ever with ASRA at NHMS and that got me the desire to try the series. That forced me to try other tracks and never looked back. I'm not opposed to NHMS anymore, and I get the convenience of being 1-2 hours from home.

    Now I just want to ride and always try to to ride a new track every season. Riding with WERA this season puts 3 new tracks on my list which I'm glad I did. Road Atlanta was way better than I had expected. Barber I know will be awesome. I've been there before to help pit for a Moto America round and did a track walk. I'll get to race there for the first time in a month.

    I had the opportunity to race in another country a few years back and that's still been in the back of my head. Think it's a better opportunity than trying Laguna or some of the courses out west.

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    Yeah. The trackday I did in Guatemala was epic. Partly because it was unplanned and bestowed upon us by yhe kindness of strangers. Partly because it was amid volcanoes, and partly because the locals we madmen! Lol

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    Two to add to the list:
    NJMP Thunderbolt and especially Inde Motorsport Park in Arizona.

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