Roll Call for Ninja 250/300 Racers for 2014

[Mr. Kurtz]

http://weraclassifieds.com/ads/2012-...#axzz2iTaOMGYw

[Paul_E_D]

So far we have what? One guy with an actual 250 to race? This is gonna be epic!

Seriously, I hope this class can successfully replace ptwins.

[nt650hawk]

Saw some of these machines at Daytona. Might want to check out those rules as well. IF U WANT TO THINK ABOUT RUNNING DAYTONA.

[Kurlon]

There are two sets of CCS rules for 250s, the real ones, and the "gentlemen's agreement." CCS Ultralight Thunderbike is pretty close to the proposed Formula 300 Class A rules.

6.4 THUNDERBIKE - Thunderbike machines, except single cylinder machines, are based upon production models, sold by manufacturers and their dealers in North America for street use. Proof of compliance rests with the competitor entering the motorcycle Single cylinder and 250 GP machines are exempt from production and street use requirements. All machines must have unaltered VIN numbers.

NOTE: BMW HP2 and Buell XBRR machines are excluded from this class.

6.4.1 Production machines not sold by manufacturers and their dealers for street use in North America via normal commercial channels may be approved on an individual basis. CCS will maintain a list of non-standard approved models and that list will be available at each event from the Race Director/Referee.
A. CCS reserves the right to re-factor machines at any time. CCS will notify current licensees 30 days prior to any change. Changes will 34 take effect 30 days from the original date of notification.

6.4.2. All machines must meet the equipment standards of Section 5, as well as the following:
A. Frame, cylinder head(s) and engine cases must be from the same production model motorcycle. Single cylinder motorcycles may use any frame and engine.
B. The frame must be as originally supplied by the manufacturer on the approved model. Strengthening gussets or tubes may be added. Only brackets or tubes not supporting suspension, engine, or drive line components may be removed. Swing arms may be modified or replaced and rear shocks may be replaced or relocated. Single cylinder motorcycles are excluded from this restriction.
C. Reducing engine size of machines from stock displacement to meet Thunderbike class displacement limits is not allowed.
D. Fairings that meet the requirements of Section 5 may be used.
E. Liquid cooling is not allowed unless original equipment on the model being used.
F. Original type of induction system must be retained. If a machine originally was sold with fuel injection, then it must remain fuel injected. If the machine originally came with carburetors, then it must use carburetors, however they need not be the original type or size.

6.4.3- CCS Thunderbike Class displacement limits are absolute and are set as follows:

ULTRALIGHT THUNDERBIKE (Amateur and Expert Combined)
Single cylinder, four-stroke liquid cooled, 300cc
Twin cylinder, air cooled, 350cc
Twin cylinder, four-stroke liquid cooled, up to 300cc
NOTE: 125GP and MD 250 machines are not eligible for Ultralight ThunderBike.

So, other than allowing air cooled two stroke twins plus the standard CCS single cylinder blind spot, the rules mesh with Formula 300 decently. Any Formula 300 bike should be good to go in ULTB without having to make CCS specific mods for legality. The other caveat to note is they allow all these mods on what we'd run as Category B bikes in Formula 300, so not all ULTB legal machines would be Formula 300 legal.

Now, what the racers have claimed to be running is 'Ultralight Supersport' under a gentlemen's agreement. A built to Formula 300 rules Category A bike could whup on 'em.

[xsiliconkid]

Under Superbike rules, have at, whatever you want to run.

stock crank must be retained

[Kurlon]

stock crank must be retained

Well, yeah, cases and cylinder too, I was referring just to bodywork. 'spose I should have specified.

[backinthesaddle]

Lots of 250/300 racing stuff here:
http://www.ninjette.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=30

[backinthesaddle]

Not sure if this meets the rules for your series, I just happened to see it on the N250 forum.

http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=155971

This is the bike that I was able to win the MCRA 250 championship on! clean and clear title. The bike is very well sorted. and will come with everything you need to go racing.
List of parts and spares include:
Penske rear shock
Traxxion springs
preload adjusters
20w fork oil
BRT-tis cdi box (timed to run on 93 pump)
newer low milage engine
pod filters
Full area P race exhaust
Jet kit with large assortment of jets (sizes to run stock air box)
woodcraft clip-ons and rear sets
extra set of SV-racing rear sets
R6 throttle
All keyless
Hotbodies bodywork in good shape
extra set of wheels/rotors with good set of Pirelli rains
KOSO gauges
gpr steering damper
almost new set of Pirelli tires (SC front and rosso 2 rear)
a lot of spare parts
front and rear stand
extra front fender
extra set of DP pads
Tyre Sox tire warmers
Clean and clear title
can be made WERA legal with the stock airbox and CDI which is all included

[Kurlon]

Fits the rules just fine, looks like a decent score for the price.

[lrrs398]

Not mine but already set up race bike.
http://newjersey.craigslist.org/mcy/4123090720.html

[backinthesaddle]

Here's another one from the ninjette site (out in Denver though):
Championship Winning Ninja 250r For Sale

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http://www.ninjette.org/forums/showthread.php?t=153291
the time has come for me to sell my 2010 Ninja 250. This is definitely one of the best... if not THE best Ninja 250 in the club (MRA). I won 12 out of 14 races on it and that definitely says something about its condition. This bike has been meticulously maintained and is set up perfect for a faster rider. It holds track records at almost every track... I can assure you that this thing is fast.

The bike has:
- Professionally painted Hotbodies Racing bodywork with Supersport windscreen
- Woodcraft Rearsets
- Woodcraft Clip-ons
- 415 DID Chain w/ Aluminum sprockets
- Full Custom Area P Carbon Fiber exhaust (This is not the same exhaust that is on their website)
- Racetech Emulators and Fork springs
- Aftermarket rear shock spring
- SSR Gas cap and smog Block off plates
- Steel braided brake lines w/ Vesrah brake pads
- Adjustable hand controls
- I know there is more that I am forgetting

This bike has had an extensive amount of time and tuning on the Dyno to ensure that every last bit of HP is squeezed out of the bike. Valves have been checked and adjusted regularly and oil is changed after every race weekend. The bike has been lowsided once at HPR. All damage has been repaired and frame is straight.

The spares that are included:
- Full set of Hotbodies bodywork w/ minor rash and windscreen.
- Correct Size Tire warmers
- Brand new Sportisi Rearsets
- Front and rear stands
- Sprocket
- Handlebars
- Oil filters, crush washers and gaskets
- Air filter
- Service Manual
- Carb jets and needles
- Suspension tuning parts
- Take off tires
- Fasteners
- Pitbull stand pins

[nt650hawk]

yea that guy was kicking some major but out there.

[Woodcraft]

If anyone has a Ninja 300 right now, Woodcraft is actively looking for a stock bike that we can get in here so that we can add a couple things to our line of products that we already make for this bike (clip-ons & rearsets in stock). There will definitely be some free / discounted stuff headed the way of whoever can get it to us first. One of the primary things we need is to do is to make bodywork molds....but there is a little more to do as well.

email info@woodcraft-cfm.com if you are interested.

[gmdboston]

Looks like this will be a very popular class. If we can get 5 or more new bikes to set up , we can offer deep discounts on shocks and fork work. All of our suppliers, Penske, JRi, Ohlins and K-Tech all make shocks, and we can use Race Tech Cartridge Emulators or Ricor Intmidators for the budget minded and full on Cartridges from K-Tech for the poverty challenged. I'll start a thread in the GMD section, let's see what we can do.

[FROE]

Hay everyone,
New to road racing was planning on racing formula 300
Fairings do they have to be stuck appearing? Was thinking of putting on a more streamline maybe a little larger windshield fairing to cover my fat ass.
anybody give me a little help with this

[Chippertheripper]

I'm 99.99% sure they don't care what fairings you run. As long as the belly pan will hold 3qts. (I think that's the spec)


Edit: possible epic fail in my speculation. Read with caution.

[union]

I could be wrong but this is supposed to be a production class? If that is the case then I believe it has the appear stock. Im pretty sure in the supersport classes you are also not supposed to have a larger then stock windscreen.

[FROE]

I could be wrong but this is supposed to be a production class? If that is the case then I believe it has the appear stock. Im pretty sure in the supersport classes you are also not supposed to have a larger then stock windscreen.

But 09 ninja 250r would be in superbike rule book. Witch if i understand is anything goes.
Anyone know

[FROE]

I could be wrong but this is supposed to be a production class? If that is the case then I believe it has the appear stock. Im pretty sure in the supersport classes you are also not supposed to have a larger then stock windscreen.

But 09 ninja 250r would be in superbike rule book. Witch if i understand is anything goes.
Anyone know

[Kurlon]

The correct answer is: What bike are you running? There are two sets of rules for Formula 300.

Category A goes by Superbike rules, whatever fairing you want.

Category B goes by Production rules, OEM look.

[FROE]

09 ninja 250r so class A superbike it is!
Thanks

Now on to rear shocks, on 250r
Gsxr 600 mono or zx6 mono??

[FROE]

09 ninja 250r so class A superbike it is!
Thanks

Now on to rear shocks,
Gsxr 600 mono or zx6 mono??

[csmutty]

09 ninja 250r so class A superbike it is!
Thanks

Now on to rear shocks,
Gsxr 600 mono or zx6 mono??

Personally I'd say neither. I would use stock until I could afford an aftermarket unit.

[SVRACER01]

just saw suzuki is coming out with a 250 twin in 2014

[Kurlon]

Suzuki's already GOT a 250 twin on the market. Saw one at the dealership today, GW250.