sidestand removal

[woody9189]

What do I have to do to disable the safety switch so I can remove the sidestand off an '09 CBR 600?

[Jim]

is this going to be a dedicated track bike, or are you just looking to disable it for a track day?

zip-tie should be your solution

[woody9189]

track bike only

[nt650hawk]

solder the two wires together

[Jim]

yep. solder the two wires together then, if you never plan on using this bike on the street. wish i could afford a brand new bike for track use only

[woody9189]

Thanks guys!

[union]

yep. solder the two wires together then, if you never plan on using this bike on the street. wish i could afford a brand new bike for track use only

No you dont. Youre going to crash you track bike enough times this year youll be happy you dont have a new bike.

[Kitt]

yep. solder the two wires together then

There are less permanent ways to do this, as I've gone both routes, trimming a harness for just what I need, and keeping them whole. I find it's better to leave them whole. I have all the un-needed plugs tucked away and ziptied somewhere, but dont cut them anymore.


If your harness side of the plug is female, I recommend:

use a jumper wire and male pins to jump the switch. If the plug is deep enough, you can fill it with silicon that will harden and keep things dry, otherwise you can use heat shrink or tape over the plug to keep things clean.

If your harness side of the plug is male (or you don't like the above suggestion):

Use a "splice connector" that piggy-backs one wire, and lets you add one. Use a blade or drill bit to remove the hard stop that is used to but the additional wire to in normal use, and now you have a clip that will splice two parallel wires together. As above, heat shrink, tape, or silicone your plug.

[OreoGaborio]

My .02, if it's for track day use I'd consider just keeping it on there for convenience.

For racing, yeah, needless weight. See posts above.

[Jim]

No you dont. Youre going to crash you track bike enough times this year youll be happy you dont have a new bike.

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[butcher bergs]

What ever happened to unplugging things and using a jumper wire instead?

[Kitt]

What ever happened to unplugging things and using a jumper wire instead?

you mean this?

If your harness side of the plug is female, I recommend:

use a jumper wire and male pins to jump the switch. If the plug is deep enough, you can fill it with silicon that will harden and keep things dry, otherwise you can use heat shrink or tape over the plug to keep things clean.

they aren't always female plugs...

[butcher bergs]

Alls I'm saying is there are connectors of all kinds out there which can be used for making a jumper. Chopping and soldering wires is an absolute last resort, IMO.

[Kitt]

Alls I'm saying is there are connectors of all kinds out there which can be used for making a jumper. Chopping and soldering wires is an absolute last resort, IMO.

have you seen your bike?

btw, that connector method I showed in the jpeg is pretty nice... especially because with a soldering iron, the insulation can be put back together if you ever decided to remove it.

but lets say you spent unecessary money on an extra kickstand sensor, or scrolled through japanese catalogs of plastic connectors and found one... how exatly does the jumper get installed in a way thats better than solder?

I thought I was anal, but this I have to hear...

[The Magician]

Kitt has a great solution to this... I'd just listen to him and be done with it.

[butcher bergs]

have you seen your bike?

Did I chop any one of those wires? I've corrected everything that I'm able to just short of buying a new harness.

I'm not saying your method isn't good, I'm saying chopping and soldering is the last resort. Again, IMHO. It's what I do for work and that's why I don't see chopping and soldering as a viable option.

Here are some examples of what I'd use. This is just a quick grab of what I have. There are about 4 more styles in additon to these that are in my tool box.

[obsolete]

my tool box.

YOU LEAVE JIM OUT OF THIS!

I'd just assume not cut wires if I can help it.

[Kitt]

Did I chop any one of those wires? I've corrected everything that I'm able to just short of buying a new harness.

I'm not saying your method isn't good, I'm saying chopping and soldering is the last resort. Again, IMHO. It's what I do for work and that's why I don't see chopping and soldering as a viable option.

Here are some examples of what I'd use. This is just a quick grab of what I have. There are about 4 more styles in additon to these that are in my tool box.

those are the ones I suggest, also... for female harness. Now, for a male harness where this will leave the jumper outside of the plug, what do you do? just let the loop dangle out there? I like the wiring tucked away.

The methods I use, are using the pieces you showed, or using that clamp-on type... now, since you do it daily. what's wrong with the clamp-on type?

P.S. I usually trust solder more than crimped connectors, when running my own wiring... but settle for your connector types, when I am trying to leave a current harness as-is.

[butcher bergs]

Kitt, I didn't say anything was wrong with the clamp-style connector you use......hell, I don't even recall saying that chopping and soldering is wrong. I attempting (and failing) to convey other options that are easily removable and correctable over and above chopping and soldering a wire harness, something which everyone seems to love doing, not just racers. Hey, it's easy and there's no denying that.

Anyone wants to chop and solder, have at it. I really don't care. Just know there are other ways to make a proper and reliable connection that don't impact or alter the wire harness nearly as much. It involves a little extra work but who wants to do that when it's so much easier to snip and twist?

[Kitt]

Kitt, I didn't say anything was wrong with the clamp-style connector you use......hell, I don't even recall saying that chopping and soldering is wrong. I attempting (and failing) to convey other options that are easily removable and correctable over and above chopping and soldering a wire harness, something which everyone seems to love doing, not just racers. Hey, it's easy and there's no denying that.

Anyone wants to chop and solder, have at it. I really don't care. Just know there are other ways to make a proper and reliable connection that don't impact or alter the wire harness nearly as much. It involves a little extra work but who wants to do that when it's so much easier to snip and twist?

I think there are 110 ways to do it... I was seriously asking ... as you do this like it's your job.

[Rambunctous]

Another OEM style plug that could be clipped and soldered and heatshrink wrapped would be ideal. Then the bike is easily converted back to stock configuration easily. But that is not practical. I think what Woody wants to know is if there are only 2 wires in the harness to the sensor or if there are more and if so which colored wires that would need to be wired to complete the circuit. Myself I would prefer it soldered and folded up under the way and zip tied in place. Only for reliability. Would not want the bike to miss a race cause of corosion or you lost the pin, etc.......This could be a business opportunity. Make plug-in connectors for kickstand bypasses for most sportbikes.