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    Re: When to start LRRS

    Fuuuuuck.

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    Re: When to start LRRS

    Get your license and start racing the very first weekend after you've decided you want to do it. Any weekends you skip because "you're not ready" or "you want to start during Round X" are weekends you'll regret missing.

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    Re: When to start LRRS

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Kurtz View Post
    Get your license and start racing the very first weekend after you've decided you want to do it. Any weekends you skip because "you're not ready" or "you want to start during Round X" are weekends you'll regret missing.
    Totally agreed with this.

    Let me add that once you hit a certain pace, the faster you get, the LESS fun the novice class is. You don't want to get too big for your britches before you start because LRRS is still going to make you start at square 1.

    And all this hogwash I've heard people considering racing say about getting super prepared is just that, hogwash. See your first round or two as a learning experience. It's much easier to prepare for something once you've done it.

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    Jump in, the water's fine.

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    Sold, October it is. What's the deal with tail number plates? Do I stick on some sort of white sheets or just rattle can that bitch? My tail can't possibly get any uglier than it is right now. For the front, I'm thinking I will just get some long zip ties and stick a MX plate below my gauges.

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    Re: When to start LRRS

    There is usually some white vinyl floating around or if you are feeling super industrious, just tape off and paint the tail white if it is as ugly as you say.

    Most people with naked bikes (assuming you are racing whatever you are riding in your avatar) do exactly as you described with a white plate and zip ties to the front.

    Red numbers can be purchased from Miles at Street and Comp trackside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhbubba View Post
    How much?
    Dude, you have to buy metal valve stem caps. I would avoid it.
    More accurately, following the maxim of "the more you make, the more you spend", all the money you earn for as long as you are racing will go to racing. Just so there's no surprises.

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    ^^^ This guy, he's okay.


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    Re: When to start LRRS

    Quote Originally Posted by Ductard View Post
    And all this hogwash I've heard people considering racing say about getting super prepared is just that, hogwash. See your first round or two as a learning experience. It's much easier to prepare for something once you've done it.
    You don't think there's validity in getting into racing with a properly prepared rider and equipment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by butcher bergs View Post
    You don't think there's validity in getting into racing with a properly prepared rider and equipment?
    Properly prepared rider and equipment are absolutely valid.

    My language was imprecise, but my comment was geared more towards some would-be racers I've spoken to that think they need to be riding like Rossi before they start racing.

    You don't need to be turning in lap times in the teens or even the 20's to start racing with LRRS.

    IMHO, the rider should be relatively comfortable on the track (including inside passes), and generally be able to follow the race line / be predictable.
    If your bike/equipment is safe for a track day, a little time spent (worst case the night after your basic course) safety wiring / installing eject, etc. should be able to bring it up to snuff for racing.

    Anything above and beyond that seems to be a needless delay in starting your racing career.

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    Re: When to start LRRS

    Quote Originally Posted by Ductard View Post
    Properly prepared rider and equipment are absolutely valid.

    My language was imprecise, but my comment was geared more towards some would-be racers I've spoken to that think they need to be riding like Rossi before they start racing.

    You don't need to be turning in lap times in the teens or even the 20's to start racing with LRRS.

    IMHO, the rider should be relatively comfortable on the track (including inside passes), and generally be able to follow the race line / be predictable.
    If your bike/equipment is safe for a track day, a little time spent (worst case the night after your basic course) safety wiring / installing eject, etc. should be able to bring it up to snuff for racing.

    Anything above and beyond that seems to be a needless delay in starting your racing career.
    Hell I had never done a track day before getting my license season but was well aware of what I was getting myself into and performed and learned accordingly. Granted I my learning curve was a bit longer than others who had been doing trackdays my first weekend started with 1.42s and but the end of the weekend was down in the mid 30s and by round 5 I was turning 1:25-1:26s. anything is possible with the right frame of mind and determination.

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    Re: When to start LRRS

    I'm trying to put together a budget for Sep-Oct. More of a forecast than a budget, in reality. What other costs should I build into a race weekend besides typical trackday costs, basic school, and races? I have plenty of tires, dont have a transponder.

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    Re: When to start LRRS

    Vinyl and numbers.
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    Re: When to start LRRS

    Off the top of my head...
    Eject system $50
    License fees $60
    Entry fees $60 / race (I think, non GT?)
    For racing you must buy fuel at the track, pick your flavor, but buy there. ~$20-$60?
    Perhaps a fuel container ~$30
    Numbers ~$20
    Food ~$100
    Camping ~$50
    Entry ~$25
    Garage ~$0-$175
    Basics ~$250

    My understanding is that for noobs transponders are free for the first 3 weekends. I could have bad information.

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    Where's the beer line-item?

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    I *think* camping is technically $25, and if you mooch off Adam for Saturday night's BBQ you could have some money left for beer. Not good beer, but beer .

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    Re: When to start LRRS

    Quote Originally Posted by GingahNinjah View Post
    Hell I had never done a track day before getting my license season but was well aware of what I was getting myself into and performed and learned accordingly. Granted I my learning curve was a bit longer than others who had been doing trackdays my first weekend started with 1.42s and but the end of the weekend was down in the mid 30s and by round 5 I was turning 1:25-1:26s. anything is possible with the right frame of mind and determination.
    Same. I had never been on the bike or on track before I started racing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ductard View Post
    Properly prepared rider and equipment are absolutely valid.

    My language was imprecise, but my comment was geared more towards some would-be racers I've spoken to that think they need to be riding like Rossi before they start racing.

    You don't need to be turning in lap times in the teens or even the 20's to start racing with LRRS.

    IMHO, the rider should be relatively comfortable on the track (including inside passes), and generally be able to follow the race line / be predictable.
    If your bike/equipment is safe for a track day, a little time spent (worst case the night after your basic course) safety wiring / installing eject, etc. should be able to bring it up to snuff for racing.

    Anything above and beyond that seems to be a needless delay in starting your racing career.
    Agreed.

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    Re: When to start LRRS

    I love this post as i plan on dong the same thing next spring. I would have started earlier but from August to May I'm straight out.

    Like some, I tend to over think the progression and I want/wanted to be as good as possible before being the noob.

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    You have to create a benchmark to judge yourself against at some point in time, why not start sooner rather than later?

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    Fuck it....I'm doing it...my 1st race ever this weekend.

    Come on out and join me in the rookie race. I'm gonna win that race!!!!

    (Fingers crossed I am able to finish it lol@me)

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    When to start LRRS

    Quote Originally Posted by jasnmar View Post
    Off the top of my head...
    Eject system $50
    License fees $60
    Entry fees $60 / race (I think, non GT?)
    For racing you must buy fuel at the track, pick your flavor, but buy there. ~$20-$60?
    Perhaps a fuel container ~$30
    Numbers ~$20
    Food ~$100
    Camping ~$50
    Entry ~$25
    Garage ~$0-$175
    Basics ~$250

    My understanding is that for noobs transponders are free for the first 3 weekends.
    Just to amend:
    Eject system: $60

    Races: first 4 races are half price, so $30 each

    Fuel: it was about $3.80/gal. You'll need a lot for basic school day, not so much for the race weekend. I think there are only 4 (maybe more if you race in middle and heavyweight also) races you can participate as a novice and they're only 8 laps.

    Garage: center garage has an open bay for novices, that's free

    Transponder: 3 free weekends, only redeemable the year you get your license.

    Just get in there and do it, dude. You'll be better for it at the start of next season.

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    Where do you grab the transponder first weekend, at tech ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwm2k3 View Post
    Fuck it....I'm doing it...my 1st race ever this weekend.

    Come on out and join me in the rookie race. I'm gonna win that race!!!!

    (Fingers crossed I am able to finish it lol@me)
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    Quote Originally Posted by dougie View Post
    Where do you grab the transponder first weekend, at tech ?
    You get it at registration when you finish basic Friday evening.

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