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    Re: Lets talk brakes...

    Have you ridden other bikes with brakes you like ?

    Is it possible to direct more airflow to the caliper to keep it cooler ?

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    Re: Lets talk brakes...

    Quote Originally Posted by 07BladeRider View Post
    Might be worth the extra $30 to get the additional setting then, since I would probably go for a model with the folding lever option. (and you can get shorties for the RCS as well)

    What the hell, if you're going to spend over $300 . . .

    EDIT: Does anyone know where to get the RCS cheaper than $350 w/ remote reservoir?
    if you found it with the reservoir for $350 then you found it as cheap as you're probably gonna find it cause that's about what you'll find it for without the reservoir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 07BladeRider View Post
    Might be worth the extra $30 to get the additional setting then, since I would probably go for a model with the folding lever option. (and you can get shorties for the RCS as well)

    What the hell, if you're going to spend over $300 . . .

    EDIT: Does anyone know where to get the RCS cheaper than $350 w/ remote reservoir?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stromper
    Have you ridden other bikes with brakes you like ?

    Is it possible to direct more airflow to the caliper to keep it cooler ?
    Ducting isn't lwss legal.

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    Re: Lets talk brakes...

    Quote Originally Posted by OreoGaborio View Post
    From my understanding of it (someone correct me if I'm wrong), it would give better feel through lever travel, not lever pressure.
    Looking for less lever travel & more pressure feedback.
    The brembo mc that are on the older ducs are all I used and had no issues ever.. Performance Friction pads in the compound that you like, more grab or more consistent feel.

    Never had an issue..

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    Quote Originally Posted by CBR929RE View Post
    if you found it with the reservoir for $350 then you found it as cheap as you're probably gonna find it cause that's about what you'll find it for without the reservoir.
    I found it on MotoMummy.com w/ a billet reservoir for $369. The reservoir isn't a Brembo, but does that REALLY make a difference? https://www.motomummy.com/store/prod...roductid=17194
    Quote Originally Posted by eboos View Post
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    It ended up being $421, even with help. Bummer, but help was appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 07BladeRider View Post
    I found it on MotoMummy.com w/ a billet reservoir for $369. The reservoir isn't a Brembo, but does that REALLY make a difference? https://www.motomummy.com/store/prod...roductid=17194It ended up being $421, even with help. Bummer, but help was appreciated.
    as long as it holds the fluid I can't see the reservoir making any difference. it just holds extra fluid so the name on it shouldn't matter. that looks like a good deal.

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    Re: Lets talk brakes...

    Pete, I have the 2 pot brembo off my old duck if you want it... (only one...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by CBR929RE View Post
    as long as it holds the fluid I can't see the reservoir making any difference. it just holds extra fluid so the name on it shouldn't matter. that looks like a good deal.
    Considering the best price I can find on the all-plastic Brembo remote is $59.

    I hope the deal is still in place if/when I decide to buy.

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    Re: Lets talk brakes...

    Are there a lot of people who use speed bleeders? Thinking about picking some up for the master and calipers as well.

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    You got more mail Chuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eboos View Post
    You got more mail Chuck.

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    Re: Lets talk brakes...

    Quote Originally Posted by 07BladeRider View Post
    Are there a lot of people who use speed bleeders? Thinking about picking some up for the master and calipers as well.
    I'm probably in the minority but I hate them. Tried to bleed my 929 with them probably 3-5 times and they just suck, litererally. I couldn't get air to stop reentering the lines when they are supposed to be designed to stop air from coming back in. first time bleeding the 600 without speed bleeders after swapping the Brembo onto it and it was a breeze. all I did was squeeze the reservoir tube and squeeze the lever quickly in between squeezing the tube. got virtually all the air out of the lines without ever cracking a bleeder screw. once I did crack the bleeders it was just a couple times and done.

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    Re: Lets talk brakes...

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_E_D View Post
    Pete, I have the 2 pot brembo off my old duck if you want it... (only one...)
    Thanks Paul. Can't change the calipers, though.

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    Chuck, have you ever thought about just riding the bike as is and worrying about go fast stuff when you....uh...start going fast?

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    Re: Lets talk brakes...

    Aak, this thread got me wanting a 15FCS for my motarrrrd.

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    Re: Lets talk brakes...

    Quote Originally Posted by SVRACER01 View Post
    Chuck, have you ever thought about just riding the bike as is and worrying about go fast stuff when you....uh...start going fast?
    Maybe.

    Maybe it's just general maintenance this winter. New fluid and rebuilding the calipers. Any good sources for rebuilding kits?

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    Re: Lets talk brakes...

    Quote Originally Posted by daviid View Post
    Pete, this is what i use for brake fluid. its good shit but pricey. It has a much higher boiling point then RBF600. I believe its catergorized as DOT 5.1

    Amazon.com: Castrol SRF Brake Fluid: Automotive: Reviews, Prices & more

    the Vesrah RJL's are great pads, but remember they heat cycle as well. How often are you replacing pads?

    as far as the master, i have no complaints with my brembo 19x20. also the galfer superbike lines are pretty sweet as well.
    Quote Originally Posted by smf View Post
    David's dead-on. kinda. it has a higher wet boiling point that rbf600, but not a higher dry boiling point, so it depends on how religious you are about bleeding your system with new fluid.

    dry boiling point: The dry boiling point (when the fluid is fresh and contains no water) is the temperature at which the fluid turns to vapor.

    wet boiling point: The wet boiling point (measured when the brake fluid contains 3.7% water) is related to how easily the brake fluid will absorb water (or how hydroscopic the fluid is). The lower the wet boiling point, the more water the fluid will absorb.

    this page has more info: http://www.stealth316.com/2-brakefluid.htm

    as an aside (like this part of the thread wasn't already), racers should be changing their fluid regularly regardless - but then I'm a bit neurotic about brakes.
    What abouts these as alternatives to the $64/liter DOT5.1 David mentioned:

    $14.99/355ml = $42.23/liter
    http://www.revzilla.com/product/bel-...-5-brake-fluid

    $8.66/250ml = $34.64/liter
    http://www.kneedraggers.com/product/...luid-.25-Liter

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    Chuck, just use tap water

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    Re: Lets talk brakes...

    Quote Originally Posted by OreoGaborio View Post
    Chuck, just use tap water
    I know you're kidding and are tired of my question sand and shit, but I really don't have a clue about brake maintenance.

    I was just asking an honest question, because I would have a hard time paying $64 for a liter of brake fluid.

    BTW, thanks to everyone for talking me out of blowing money on parts I probably couldn't use 1/10000th of their awesomeness on.

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    Re: Lets talk brakes...

    Quote Originally Posted by 07BladeRider View Post
    What abouts these as alternatives to the $64/liter DOT5.1 David mentioned:

    $14.99/355ml = $42.23/liter
    http://www.revzilla.com/product/bel-...-5-brake-fluid

    $8.66/250ml = $34.64/liter
    http://www.kneedraggers.com/product/...luid-.25-Liter
    the first one you can't use. DOT 5 is not compatible and can't be mixed with DOT3, 4, or 5.1. but those 3 can be mixed together.

    I've been using this for a few years and have been happy. I believe Ted also has it http://www.ronayers.com/ProductDetai...37/SKU/1625226

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    Quote Originally Posted by CBR929RE View Post
    the first one you can't use. DOT 5 is not compatible and can't be mixed with DOT3, 4, or 5.1. but those 3 can be mixed together.

    I've been using this for a few years and have been happy. I believe Ted also has it http://www.ronayers.com/ProductDetai...37/SKU/1625226
    I thought DOT5.1 was not compatible with 3 or 4 as well.

    I'm so confused.

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    Re: Lets talk brakes...

    Quote Originally Posted by 07BladeRider View Post
    I thought DOT5.1 was not compatible with 3 or 4 as well.

    I'm so confused.
    its compatible.

    5 is not compatible because its silicone based.

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    Re: Lets talk brakes...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy 2 Shots View Post
    Chuck sucks
    At least my brakes work. (for now)

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