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    trying to bump

    So I'm trying to get a response from Don and Wanda both and no one will get back to me about bumping up to AM. Should I just pre-enter as an AM, or will they bounce that? I thought I read a while ago to just enter as an AM and they will see the index/points/times and just put it through. Not sure about that - any input?

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    YOu should do your pre-reg as an am... if you meet the requirements, your request will be accepted.

    If you wait to pre-reg until you receive an answer from Don, and the deadline is past, they likely will not accept your pre-reg.

    I was a day or two late when bumping to AM for the same reason and had to really sweet talk them to get my pre-reg accepted... they said for future reference to just pre-reg as an AM and worst case if you get denied then you can modify your races when you get there.

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    Re: trying to bump

    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpoke387 View Post
    So I'm trying to get a response from Don and Wanda both and no one will get back to me about bumping up to AM. Should I just pre-enter as an AM, or will they bounce that? I thought I read a while ago to just enter as an AM and they will see the index/points/times and just put it through. Not sure about that - any input?
    Oh good so Ill be safe at the next round

    How many races do you have with an index of over .5? I entered four races next weekend because thats what I need to move up, but if thats just a guideline Id prefer to do one less.

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    Wanda has nothing to do with Bumping. It is all Don. If you have the Index and the right amount of races and you haven't been and idiot just pre reg as an Amateur.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strgt View Post
    Oh good so Ill be safe at the next round

    How many races do you have with an index of over .5? I entered four races next weekend because thats what I need to move up, but if thats just a guideline Id prefer to do one less.
    Read your rulebook. You need 10 races. Don will sometimes overlook the index if you are close or can make a good case but not the number of races. (IIRC)

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    Re: trying to bump

    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post
    Read your rulebook. You need 10 races. Don will sometimes overlook the index if you are close or can make a good case but not the number of races. (IIRC)
    I did read the rulebook thanks. Hence why I said I need 4 more races to move up. I was asking Larry how many races he personally had over .5.


    I meant that if I have 9 races in a row above .5 will they make an exception.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strgt View Post
    I did read the rulebook thanks. Hence why I said I need 4 more races to move up.


    I meant that if I have 9 races in a row above .5 will they make an exception.

    Not usually. The stance is that it takes time on the track to learn "race craft". Not unheard of but as I said i belive the overlook the index more than the number of races.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post
    Not usually. The stance is that it takes time on the track to learn "race craft". Not unheard of but as I said i belive the overlook the index more than the number of races.
    Ok, if you do meet the requirements, are you definately allowed to move up, or is it subjective?

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    If you meet em you move up. 10 races and an index of .500+

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    Re: trying to bump

    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post
    If you meet em you move up. 10 races and an index of .500+
    Don looks at lap times as well, if you've got the races and the average but are not running a lap time that is in the range of the next class, he may ask you to wait.

    At least when going from Novice to Amateur anyways.

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    Re: trying to bump

    What constitutes a good lap time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rambunctous View Post
    What constitutes a good lap time?

    Around 1:11 or so would be good

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    Mid pack Amateur times. In your class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rambunctous View Post
    What constitutes a good lap time?
    Depends on the bike. He had different targets for me depending on if I was running my GS or the Katooooom

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    Re: trying to bump

    Ok, well the index is definitely going to be there - never really finished out of the top 5, the points are pretty high, the times aren't overly fast -19's and a brief pb of an 18, and amount of races is more than enough. But the idiot thing may hold me back - lol. Had a horrendous last event which actually made me re-think bumping at all, but I know I'll get bumped next April anyway automatically, so I guess I'll just enter as an AM and see what happens at the window.

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    Good luck.

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    Re: trying to bump

    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpoke387 View Post
    Ok, well the index is definitely going to be there - never really finished out of the top 5, the points are pretty high, the times aren't overly fast -19's and a brief pb of an 18, and amount of races is more than enough. But the idiot thing may hold me back - lol. Had a horrendous last event which actually made me re-think bumping at all, but I know I'll get bumped next April anyway automatically, so I guess I'll just enter as an AM and see what happens at the window.
    Moving up to AM will improve your racing skills. Best of luck, it will feel like someone is holding a knife to your throat compared to novice!

    Great fun!

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    Re: trying to bump

    Quote Originally Posted by Crash Dummy Denno View Post
    Moving up to AM will improve your racing skills. Best of luck, it will feel like someone is holding a knife to your throat compared to novice!

    Great fun!

    it will def get you faster, just out of shear necessity

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    Welcome to the sh** show. You won't have any problems so don't worry about it.

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    Re: trying to bump

    If you hit an index of .750 in NV you can bump too, regardless of how many races you've done.

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    Re: trying to bump

    Quote Originally Posted by spydah View Post
    If you hit an index of .750 in NV you can bump too, regardless of how many races you've done.
    Wrong. You need at least 10 races. If youre over .750 at the end of the year and have the required races you are automatically bumped up.

    Larry youll be fine out there. You race nice and clean. Ill be up on Saturday hopefully but just to watch.

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    Ill be up on Saturday hopefully but just to watch.
    Bring that video!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Butcher Bergs View Post
    Bring that video!!

    Call me on Friday and remind me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by union View Post
    Wrong. You need at least 10 races. If youre over .750 at the end of the year and have the required races you are automatically bumped up.

    Larry youll be fine out there. You race nice and clean. Ill be up on Saturday hopefully but just to watch.
    exactly, its actually more important you have your ten races in

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