Whats the secret to the new turn 1????

[bdawkins20]

I haven't raced since we had turn 1 under the knife. What has changed about it? from what I have seen on here there is no pre-turn? Could someone give me an idea of how to approach this new turn?

[boloson]

theres a vid from a TTD that shows u where the turn in is. aug 3 vid i believe?

[Jayspeed]

I did 1 track day this year at loudon and I don't think I ever got the right line down but I turned in later than before and did so with a long arch. It appears that the turn has been moved further down the straight a few feet making turn 1a tighter. I bet there is a turn in because my arch method would make an easy inside pass I bet.

[CMG241]

brake later, more than you'd think

[Paul_E_D]

It turns out you can approach on the same tight line as before (pre-turn included), or even tighter. There's a LOT more room to brake down on the apron of the nascar oval, which means you can hold the throttle one marker later (or more). The turn is sharper, but it's point and shoot, so the inside line is fastest.

[OreoGaborio]

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It turns out you can approach on the same tight line as before (pre-turn included), or even tighter. There's a LOT more room to brake down on the apron of the nascar oval, which means you can hold the throttle one marker later (or more). The turn is sharper, but it's point and shoot, so the inside line is fastest.

big swooping = slow in, fast out... But turn 1 is a fast in slow out, point & shoot kinda turn. If you swoop in you're gonna get stuffed. Keep a tight entry and throw it in hard right around the pavement transition.

[Paul_E_D]

That's a new pavement transition, not the old transition. Turn in is a good 30-40 feet past where the old turn in was...

[nt650hawk]

Tuck your head in at the flag station.

[seth399]

yes, as mentioned I find braking a marker later or so

[Kham]

so the turn got move and we all got lost? imagine riding on street on unknown roads.

["Dangerous" Dan K]

so the turn got move and we all got lost? imagine riding on street on unknown roads.

You ride the street at a race pace? Knee dragging, limits of your traction and ability simultaneously, in close competition with other riders? Wow, I had no idea.

[Kham]

You ride the street at a race pace? Knee dragging, limits of your traction and ability simultaneously, in close competition with other riders? Wow, I had no idea.

no but that's the point. we shouldn't be acused of speeding.

["Dangerous" Dan K]

no but that's the point. we shouldn't be acused of speeding.

What the fuck are you thinking/talking about?

[OreoGaborio]

Kham, you keep getting lost, you're in the Pit area, we're talking about racing

Even for those that had been doing track days, turn 1 and 1a felt completely different. And rightly so.

[spydah]

Are you guys still touching the orange square or is that too tight now? I didn't quite get it down yet either (after 1 race weekend) and found myself coming out of 1 very wide and tight to 1a.

[Paul_E_D]

I'm inside the red square. (or on it). But I haven't raced on the new config.

[union]

Are you guys still touching the orange square or is that too tight now? I didn't quite get it down yet either (after 1 race weekend) and found myself coming out of 1 very wide and tight to 1a.

It turns out you can approach on the same tight line as before (pre-turn included), or even tighter. There's a LOT more room to brake down on the apron of the nascar oval, which means you can hold the throttle one marker later (or more). The turn is sharper, but it's point and shoot, so the inside line is fastest.

Pretty much what Eric told me. I found him down at the end of the pits watching I started picking his brain. He said he takes a tight line in and the old pre-turn and entry are a good starting point. The people that are really wide now are way off.

[Jaynnus]

The people that are really wide now are way off.

And make me cringe as the faster entry is the tight line and the wide guys are gonna get stuffed.

[LowSider]

Oh no, dan k has only been on the forum for 5 months and has already started to take digs at Kham... Someone has to put a stop to this before it gets any worse.

[nt650hawk]

And make me cringe as the faster entry is the tight line and the wide guys are gonna get stuffed.

Thats racing.

T6 is the same exact thing.

[Jaynnus]

Thats racing.

T6 is the same exact thing.

Yip....but it still makes me go when I am cornerworking 1!!

[a13x]

Interesting.

[LowSider]

Thats racing.

T6 is the same exact thing.

Yeah, but I like the tight line in T6 and don't really like anything about the new turn 1.

.... Well, maybe now that the straight is a little longer I might actually break 100mph

[nt650hawk]

.... Well, maybe now that the straight is a little longer I might actually break 100mph

Still Unlikely.

[SVRACER01]

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big swooping = slow in, fast out... But turn 1 is a fast in slow out, point & shoot kinda turn. If you swoop in you're gonna get stuffed. Keep a tight entry and throw it in hard right around the pavement transition.

this stupid line that you run is why i was all the way up your ass by the exit of T1 even though you had 10 bike lengths on me going in