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    Re: Brake issues

    and the rotor carrier?

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    Re: Brake issues

    Quote Originally Posted by OreoGaborio View Post
    and the rotor carrier?
    All brand new as of the first race weekend. Miss 1 full day both of the first 2 race weekends, and did this weekend, so say 2-2.5 race weekends on everything.

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    Re: Brake issues

    forks straight?

    (Shh, I'm fishin, here)

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    Quote Originally Posted by OreoGaborio View Post
    forks straight?

    (Shh, I'm fishin, here)
    Hope so.

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    Re: Brake issues

    Could be f'd up out of the box man. I'd check how straight everything is. I know the rider isn't but that shouldn't effect the barkes.

    I'd go with Doug and check there's no shimmy. You could also use a roller depth gauge to check if the rotor is out of round. Kinda how you check forks. You just have to get the forks and gauge fixed on the same plane.

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    Re: Brake issues

    Did you compress the pistons all the way into the caliper when you re-bled the system?

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    It's all water under the bridge, and we do enter the next round-robin. Am I wrong?

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    Re: Brake issues

    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post
    Are your spacers correct? Wheel bearings ok?
    Given that you appear to have changed everything else, this seems to be the likely culprit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hessogood View Post
    Did you compress the pistons all the way into the caliper when you re-bled the system?
    Umm .. dunno. Josh and Chris bled them for me with the new master.

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    Re: Brake issues

    How tough is it to change wheel bearings? I might just order new ones.

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    Re: Brake issues

    Quote Originally Posted by hessogood View Post
    Did you compress the pistons all the way into the caliper when you re-bled the system?
    Chris and I did not, never heard of having to do that for bleeding?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pittenger5 View Post
    Umm .. dunno. Josh and Chris bled them for me with the new master.
    And that's why I always work on my own bikes. So I know what I'm riding. Try compressing the pistons, air can get trapped in there and it won't be able to escape out of the bleeder valve.

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    It's all water under the bridge, and we do enter the next round-robin. Am I wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hessogood View Post
    Try compressing the pistons, air can get trapped in there and it won't be able to escape out of the bleeder valve.
    Good to know, I was waiting for an explanation on that suggestion.

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    Re: Brake issues

    Think I figured it out.
    So I throw the bike on the stand, have my dad hold the bars, grab the wheel top and bottom and rock it, and theres DEFINITE movement from left to right as youre looking at the bike. Fuck. Throw on the rain to double check (with good wheels) of course, no play whatsoever. Fuck. Go to put the new wheel back on and think of what Im gonna do. And theres no play whatsoever. None. Fine. So I dunno if something just didnt get seated properly or something or what, but it was more than enough movement to move the pads out. Especially over bumps.
    So hopefully its solved. Thanks to all the suggestions and such.

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    Re: Brake issues

    Excellent !!! Glad you got is straightened out !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheppo View Post
    Excellent !!! Glad you got is straightened out !
    Hopefully

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pookie View Post
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    Re: Brake issues

    Quote Originally Posted by hessogood View Post
    Try compressing the pistons, air can get trapped in there and it won't be able to escape out of the bleeder valve.
    That wouldn't cause an issue in only one specific area of the track, that would give you squish everywhere on the track.

    Josh and I rigged the new setup up properly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Pittenger5 View Post
    Think I figured it out.
    So I throw the bike on the stand, have my dad hold the bars, grab the wheel top and bottom and rock it, and theres DEFINITE movement from left to right as youre looking at the bike. Fuck. Throw on the rain to double check (with good wheels) of course, no play whatsoever. Fuck. Go to put the new wheel back on and think of what Im gonna do. And theres no play whatsoever. None. Fine. So I dunno if something just didnt get seated properly or something or what, but it was more than enough movement to move the pads out. Especially over bumps.
    So hopefully its solved. Thanks to all the suggestions and such.
    I wonder if the spacers or something were not lined up so when you tightened down the front axle nut and axle pinch bolts they were tight, but everything wasnt actually together properly.

    Makes sense that the area of the track where you get chatter and bumpity bumps on that thing would really exacerbate the play in the wheel and push the pads out.

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    Re: Brake issues

    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post
    Are your spacers correct? Wheel bearings ok?
    Quote Originally Posted by Pittenger5 View Post
    Think I figured it out.
    So I throw the bike on the stand, have my dad hold the bars, grab the wheel top and bottom and rock it, and theres DEFINITE movement from left to right as youre looking at the bike. Fuck. Throw on the rain to double check (with good wheels) of course, no play whatsoever. Fuck. Go to put the new wheel back on and think of what Im gonna do. And theres no play whatsoever. None. Fine. So I dunno if something just didnt get seated properly or something or what, but it was more than enough movement to move the pads out. Especially over bumps.
    So hopefully its solved. Thanks to all the suggestions and such.
    Who'd a thunk it. Sounds like a spacer wasn't seated right.

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    Re: Brake issues

    Quote Originally Posted by OreoGaborio View Post
    [SIZE=1] How's the wing feelin?
    Still hurts, but not as bad. Typing with 2 hands today. I Won't see the ortho until next week. Vicodin isn't all it was said to be. :offtopic:

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    Vicodin isn't all it was said to be. :offtopic:
    You are SO doing it wrong

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    Still hurts, but not as bad. Typing with 2 hands today. I Won't see the ortho until next week. Vicodin isn't all it was said to be. :offtopic:
    Vicoden works if you double or triple the dosage and wash it down with no less than 3 beers. At least that's what my doctor says.

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    Quote Originally Posted by obsolete View Post
    At least that's what my doctor says.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pookie View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pittenger5 View Post
    BOOYAKASHA!!

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    Re: Brake issues

    Axle tight then clamp in forks that's why an axel tool of some sort

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    Quote Originally Posted by richw View Post
    Axle tight then clamp in forks that's why an axel tool of some sort
    That's why an axel tool of some sort... WHAT!?!?! What does this axle tool of some sorts do? You always leave us hanging.

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