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    Need new clutch??

    OK, I tried doing searches for info on clutches, but every search I did resulted in hundreds of threads that had nothing to do with what I'm looking for.

    So, I'll ask this in a new thread...

    How do you know when it's time for a new clutch? My cable is adjusted so the clutch if fully engaged and has very little cable tension when the lever is released. I have about 1/8"-1/4" play in the lever when it's all the way out.

    But, the clutch is only grabbing when the lever is about 3/4 of the way out and gets a little worse when it's warmed up.

    Are there adjustments that a bike mechanic can do that will allow the clutch to grab sooner? Or is my clutch on its way out?

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    Need new clutch??

    Stop Clutching up those wheelies and you won't have that Problem Chuck..

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    Need new clutch??

    maybe you need to adjust the clutch

    and not the clutch cable, many people think the cable adjusts the clutch.... you should have a locknut on the rod that actuated the clutch, first loosen the cable then loosen the locknut and turn the rod in or out till it is just getting clutch resistance, then back off about an 1/8 turn and tighten the locknut

    then adjust the cable

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    Need new clutch??

    Originally posted by RandyO
    you should have a locknut on the rod that actuated the clutch, first loosen the cable then loosen the locknut and turn the rod in or out till it is just getting clutch resistance, then back off about an 1/8 turn and tighten the locknut

    then adjust the cable
    Makes sense. Adjust it so that it grabs sooner when I let the clutch lever out.

    Originally posted by josephd14
    Stop Clutching up those wheelies and you won't have that Problem Chuck..
    Wheelie? What's that? I haven't pulled a wheelie since I stored my quad more than 8 years ago.

    I was never good at pulling wheelies on motorcycles. Too afraid of landing funny and pulling a nice tank slapper.

    To some it looks so damn easy. I was never really good at it.

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    Need new clutch??

    ...or you could swing by my place and I'll adjust it for you, at the clutch end, not the lever. The cable could also be stretched, but a new cable is probably only about $20.

    derek

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    Need new clutch??

    Originally posted by Degsy
    ...or you could swing by my place and I'll adjust it for you, at the clutch end, not the lever. The cable could also be stretched, but a new cable is probably only about $20.

    derek
    This sounds even better. If the weather's ok this weekend, I might take you up on that. I'll give you a jingle if I do.

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    Need new clutch??

    If you do opt to get a new cable, make sure you carry the tools necessary to replace it, with you, all the time, and toss the old cable under the passenger seat as a spare. You'll be gald you did if the cable ever fails far from home. That's where my old cable sits...

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    haha

    1/4 " is too much freeplay. I think 5mm is ideal. Sounds like its definitely the cable. If you do need to replace the clutch, Go OEM all the way. Honda Clutches are good dude. How old is the clutch? If it by some chance ended up being the clutch springs,( probably isnt) then just replace the whole thing and make sure you soak the new plates etc. in fresh engine oil. Just get a new cable dude.

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    Need new clutch??

    The clutch has 19K miles on it. I plan on getting a new cable and replacing it during the storage period this winter.

    We'll see.

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    Re: haha

    Originally posted by FireFly
    1/4 " is too much freeplay. I think 5mm is ideal.
    ¼" or 5mm not much difference

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    Re: Re: haha

    Originally posted by RandyO
    ¼" or 5mm not much difference
    1/4 of an inch is about 6.5mm

    http://www.onlineconversion.com/length_common.htm

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    Need new clutch??

    I like to have about 9.83mm of freeplay.

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    Need new clutch??

    Originally posted by JeffL
    I like to have about 9.83mm of freeplay.
    Is that close to .983cm?

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    Need new clutch??

    If you do the metric to metric conversion, its pretty close to the same.

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    Need new clutch??

    Originally posted by JeffL
    If you do the metric to metric conversion, its pretty close to the same.
    Pretty close? Try EXACTLY the same...

    sheesh, can't tell when someone's making a joke.

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    Re: Re: Re: haha

    Originally posted by OreoGitorio
    1/4 of an inch is about 6.5mm

    http://www.onlineconversion.com/length_common.htm
    or 5mm is about 1/5"

    all within tolerance for clutch freeplay

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    Need new clutch??

    Originally posted by 97BladeRider
    Pretty close? Try EXACTLY the same...

    sheesh, can't tell when someone's making a joke.
    I WAS joking, gosh, brush up on your humor.

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    Re: haha

    Originally posted by FireFly
    1/4 " is too much freeplay. I think 5mm is ideal. Sounds like its definitely the cable. If you do need to replace the clutch, Go OEM all the way. Honda Clutches are good dude. How old is the clutch? If it by some chance ended up being the clutch springs,( probably isnt) then just replace the whole thing and make sure you soak the new plates etc. in fresh engine oil. Just get a new cable dude.

    ???????????????????

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    Need new clutch??

    No seriously, I have my clutch adjusted at the nut on the sprocket cover, and have probably an inch of free play at the handle. Who fucking cares, its personal preference. So I only use half the travel of the clutch lever, whoopty doo.

    (As far as fireflys OCD paranoia response goes)

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    Need new clutch??

    When did OCD become paranoia??

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    heheheh

    my 5mm-1/4 inch remark got quite the response..LOLolol..
    Between 3 &5 i think is a factory spec. I dont remember.

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    Need new clutch??

    Originally posted by RandyO
    maybe you need to adjust the clutch

    and not the clutch cable, many people think the cable adjusts the clutch.... you should have a locknut on the rod that actuated the clutch, first loosen the cable then loosen the locknut and turn the rod in or out till it is just getting clutch resistance, then back off about an 1/8 turn and tighten the locknut

    then adjust the cable
    you know the clutch is going when it slips when riding.....most likely WOT and at high rpms..

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    Re: haha

    Originally posted by FireFly
    1/4 " is too much freeplay. I think 5mm is ideal. Sounds like its definitely the cable. If you do need to replace the clutch, Go OEM all the way. Honda Clutches are good dude. How old is the clutch? If it by some chance ended up being the clutch springs,( probably isnt) then just replace the whole thing and make sure you soak the new plates etc. in fresh engine oil. Just get a new cable dude.

    Yeah dude don't listen to Firefag!!!


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    Need new clutch??

    When going 60 in first gear and I wack the throttle, my bike tries to flip over backwards. I have about 3/8" of clutch play. Am I going to die because it is more than 5mm?

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    Need new clutch??

    You should ask Firefag.

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