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    Cost effective way to switch tires

    Looking for a cheap way to switch tires myself (sorry Kurtz). What are my options? Any strong recommendations?

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    Re: Cost effective way to switch tires

    Buy some tire irons and rim guards. For bead breaker , cheapest is a 2x4. The Harbor freight bead breaker worked well for me. With the HF unit, I used short pieces of 2x4 to raise the rim off the stand to avoid scratches.
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    In that picture of the 2x4 setup, I would move the breaker part closer to the anchor point (car) for better leverage.

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    Re: Cost effective way to switch tires

    Anyone ever tried this one? For $15 I'm tempted to go snag one.
    http://www.harborfreight.com/motorcy...ker-98875.html

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    Re: Cost effective way to switch tires

    Quote Originally Posted by Petorius View Post
    Anyone ever tried this one? For $15 I'm tempted to go snag one.
    http://www.harborfreight.com/motorcy...ker-98875.html
    This one doesn't work well on 180 and 195 rear tires. The range of motion is mechanically limited.

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    Re: Cost effective way to switch tires

    too small

    screw a pc of 2x4 on the wall about 1 1/2 feet up as a cleat

    then take the rest like 1 foot and put it on a hinge about 8 inches from the end

    put the rest under the cleat and push the short unit pushes the bead off

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    Re: Cost effective way to switch tires

    Bigass c-clamp and some scraps of wood to break the bead. C-clamp is also helpful for reseting brake calipers.
    Lay out an old carpet remnant to work on when working the irons. I also use a set of 2x4's to keep the brake rotor off the ground.
    Use furniture polish or windex as lube on the wheel and tire bead.
    I like the Motion Pro tire iron kits. I have two sets, one is the 3-different size one.
    I use the MP rim protectors too, but they make it more difficult. If you are okay scratching the rims, skipping them is easier.
    I hear cut-up laundry detergent bottles work even better as protectors; not as thick.
    Be ready to swear a lot.

    I haven't bothered to balance my street setup in a while. Track setup was mounted and balanced for me.

    Youtoobe it. Plenty of tricks shared there. Here's one using zip ties: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9MpgD-xIjg

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    Re: Cost effective way to switch tires

    Quote Originally Posted by Petorius View Post
    Looking for a cheap way to switch tires myself (sorry Kurtz). What are my options? Any strong recommendations?
    you mean switch tires back and forth, or just replace worn out tires ?

    if the former, get spare wheels, that is what I did on my SV650 to go from dirt tires to street tires to avoid mounting and dismounting and what I do on my V-strom to go from the darkside to a motorcycle tire and back

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    Re: Cost effective way to switch tires

    I use the HF tire changer with motorcycle attachment. Works fine. Done countless tires with it.

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    Re: Cost effective way to switch tires

    C-clamp method is a pain in the ass compared to the 2x4 method in my opinion. You can also wedge the 2X4 under your car's tire. I found that brute force isn't needed, so much as just constant force. Standing on the 2x4 for 3 seconds wouldn't do it, but 15seconds and it would slowly start to separate casually. Once you learn the pattern, it's really easy. After it's been broken in one spot, you can do the rest with your hands. No need to use the 2x4.

    However, spooning the new tires on is a rubix cube compared to breaking the bead. Either that or I need more practice. The first bead's easy, but it's getting the second one on that takes some time. Then DIY balance the wheel, which is easy but tedious. And get a little extra soapy water in the rim when you go to set the bead. It lessens the resistance, so you don't need extreme amounts of air pressure.

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    Re: Cost effective way to switch tires

    mount with wd40 fire boom done

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    Re: Cost effective way to switch tires

    Go to auto parts COUNTER and ask for REAL tire mounting lube $11/gal life time supply

    Also spray lube CAN be used to DEMOUNT the old tire

    Tire mounting works by keeping the otherside from the spoons int the smaller center section use floor and your knees

    Need to have TANK air compressor set bead with NO MORE than 70 PSI

    If they don't look concentirc break the bead and whale on it with a mallet as the bead pops

    watch a video or 2

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    Re: Cost effective way to switch tires

    I get my changed for free everytime

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    Re: Cost effective way to switch tires

    Quote Originally Posted by Petorius View Post
    (sorry Kurtz)

    Quote Originally Posted by RandyO View Post
    you mean switch tires back and forth, or just replace worn out tires ?
    if the former, get spare wheels
    ^ what he said. It'll be much less hassle overall if you use different sets of wheels for different tires(dot/rain, track/street, etc)

    Assuming you're buying tires trackside, or from a local shop, I imagine you'll get mounting included with tire purchase?

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    Re: Cost effective way to switch tires

    I know he has spare wheels already.
    I think he's talking about mounting up take-offs.

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    Cheap manual changer. I use a coats.

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    Re: Cost effective way to switch tires

    I have a tire quik system that I am looking to sell. I moved up to a No-Mar and have the balancer, bead breaker and a 14" steel car wheel and tire irons. Its fairly easy to do but takes a little finesse. Plenty of step-by-step is available online. PM me for info and pics.

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    Re: Cost effective way to switch tires

    I picked up a NoMar classic manual changer on a winter special sale about 6 years ago. I don't ride nearly as much as I used to when I first got it, but still change a set or 2 a season on my bikes, and usually 3 or 4 sets for friends/family a season. It's paid for itself in time savings alone for me seeing a round trip to the dealer, plus wait time to get them changed, total about 3 hours

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    Re: Cost effective way to switch tires

    I second the purchase of a NoMar tire system. I went in on one as a group buy since 6 other people I ride with have 2 or more bikes like myself. Its cheaper in the long run.

    We went with the 1200 dollar option but if you are getting into racing this may save you money on non race weekends, I think if you buy tires at the track they mount for free.

    If you do end up with the NoMar make sure you watch the youtube videos, they help make sense of how to use it and its a lot easier after watching.

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    Re: Cost effective way to switch tires

    i just cut the tire off with a hacksaw

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    Re: Cost effective way to switch tires

    Quote Originally Posted by SVRACER01 View Post
    i just cut the tire off with a hacksaw
    Me too.

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    Re: Cost effective way to switch tires

    Harbor Freight Bead Breaker and Motion Pro irons. Some nice lube makes it super easy once you learn the trick with the irons.

    You can actually use the kickstand as a bead breaker if you want to.

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    Re: Cost effective way to switch tires

    Don't forget to armour all the shit out of the whole tire when your done. Gives it that new to you look.

    Seriously, best solution is the harbour freight tire changer with motorcycle attachment and retro fit it with mojo blocks and pick up a mojo bar. Will run you about $200 for the whole set up and gives you scratch free tire changing. Works as well as a No Mar for a quarter the price, just a little more wobbly.

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    Re: Cost effective way to switch tires

    Here's a link

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    Re: Cost effective way to switch tires

    Here is how I did it for years. Next step up is a harbor freight with a no-mar brand tire bar. (which is how I do it now.) You can make your own mojo blocks easily out of delrin blocks from mcmaster-carr.com

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XArpY_hSdk

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    Re: Cost effective way to switch tires

    I have a 2x4 bead breaker
    I have tapered the pusher so its narrower and thrusts itself toward the rim

    Some times I push hard in a few spots before it pops down

    WHen removing the old tire use spray lube like wd40 and the old tire will cooperate often by hand once started

    clean up wd before you start to put on new one

    also if new has spots balance the rim before and mark the heavy spot on it then line up
    the tire spot with the heavy spot

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