Educate me on Chains

[DankDirtyBird]

another person comparing apples to oranges, compare oem quality to oem quality and aftermarket smancy gold x-ring to aftermarket smancy gold x-ring

also, not everyone wears chains first, its not uncommon to toast the front sprocket before anything else

What are you even talking about? Apples to oranges? They are all chains, just some with a little different technology. So essentially what you're saying is that you should always stick with OEM parts because they are OEM?

[OreoGaborio]

What are you even talking about? Apples to oranges? They are all chains, just some with a little different technology. So essentially what you're saying is that you should always stick with OEM parts because they are OEM?

No, he's saying if you're going to argue his point then compare OEM type 525 to OEM type in 520... or... Fancy Schmancy 525 to Fancy Schmancy 520.... not OEM 525 vs Fancy Schmancy 520.

[DankDirtyBird]

No, he's saying if you're going to argue his point then compare OEM type 525 to OEM type in 520... or... Fancy Schmancy 525 to Fancy Schmancy 520.... not OEM 525 vs Fancy Schmancy 520.

Fair enough. Figure out what your OEM chain is, and the specifications for it. Once you know that, compare it to the image below.

I guess it was assumed that if you're changing to a different size change, you don't just switch from OEM to OEM, but from OEM to Fancy Schmancy.

[Beam]

Bumping this old thread to keep the chain education in one place. I would have said "to keep it all linked" but puns like that are just ridiculous.
Moving on...

What's the difference between a $50 chain and a $150 chain? Marketing? Materials? Magic? Is there enough difference in wear, care, etc to justify the price difference?

[nhbubba]

I'm gonna take a wild ass guess that a $50 chain is a non-sealed, non o or x-ring type chain. While the $150 chain has little seals on each and every roller that makes it last eleventy billion times longer with a fraction of the maintenance.

Usually you get what you pay for. Although sometimes you don't.

[Garandman]

Lmgtfy.

I took the stock z1000 #525 chain & sprockets and the #520 chain & sprockets to the Post Office. I wanted to know REALLY how much weigh U are loosing with doing this conversion. I also had a Vortex 40 tooth aluminum sprocket so I took that along with me also, just to see how light it is.

525
525 chain 112 links 4 lbs 11 oz
525 42 tooth rear 2 lbs 1 oz
525 17 tooth frt 9 oz

520
520 chain 112 links 3 lbs 14 oz
520 43 tooth rear 1 lbs 13 oz
520 17 tooth frt 7 oz
Vortex 520 40 tooth rear sprocket 11 oz !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Difference
13 oz chain
4 oz rear sprocket
2 oz front sprocket
1 lbs 6oz Vortex rear sprocket over stock

Total weight of chain and sprockets were:
525 stock weight 7 lbs 5 oz
520 conversion 6 lbs 2 oz (Steel rear sprocket)
520 conversion 5 lbs (vortex Aluminum sprocket)

[OreoGaborio]

Bumping this old thread to keep the chain education in one place. I would have said "to keep it all linked" but puns like that are just ridiculous.

Thanks for the bump... this thread is riveting.

[MarkMarine]

Thanks for the bump... this thread is riveting.

Kekekekeke

[Kurlon]

Kekekekeke

Aw crap, we've been invaded by Korean gamers, we can't handle CPMs that high!

[MarkMarine]

Aw crap, we've been invaded by Korean gamers, we can't handle CPMs that high!

Is that a Korean thing? I got it from Julie but she actually makes that sound.

[Kurlon]

That's where I learned it, gaming against Koreans, I always assumed it was due to variations in pronunciation/alphabet differences. Never occurred to me that it could be simpler and just how they laugh.

[RandyO]

I'm gonna take a wild ass guess that a $50 chain is a non-sealed, non o or x-ring type chain. While the $150 chain has little seals on each and every roller that makes it last eleventy billion times longer with a fraction of the maintenance.

Usually you get what you pay for. Although sometimes you don't.

yep, that's the difference

Cause I use a Scottoiler and my chain is constanly lubed, I tried a non O-ring chain once. and on the face, it would seem cheaper to some, $50 for 12k of riding vs $150 for 30K of riding, but don't ferget to add installation and sprocket cost

[GixerJockey]

:smuttysucks:

And used a little too much "teeth"...

But uses JUUUUUUST the right amout of "teeth"...






I have almost nothing to add to the chain discussion because it's stupid.



If you're at the absolute top of your racing game, and are fighting for miniscule fractions of a second... switch to a lighter chain and sprockets. Otherwise, leave it the hell alone.

[soofle616]

Alternatively, if, like was the case when I replaced the chain on Jess's bike earlier this year, a lightweight sprocket and chain pack can be had for significantly less than stock stuff, change it.

[z3dsp33d]

When it comes to chains I have some expertise in Bicycle variants. Most of the technology and principles transfer over to
motorcycles.

Here is a good article on a bicycle chain.

http://www.gramslightbikes.com/2009/...sl-review.html

[RandyO]

When it comes to chains I have some expertise in Bicycle variants. Most of the technology and principles transfer over to
motorcycles.

Here is a good article on a bicycle chain.

http://www.gramslightbikes.com/2009/...sl-review.html

ya, like your putting 150 hp on a pedal bike chain

[z3dsp33d]

ya, like your putting 150 hp on a pedal bike chain

I can put on just under 3 hp. No joke I have measured it.

[GixxerJosh]

I run one of these sprockets to make me super! http://www.supersproxusa.com/

[The Snowman]

D.I.D 520 ERV chain and Superlite sprockets. You can get them as a set from sprocketcenter.com.

The sprockets are all steel, which last longer than aluminum and are only a couple of ounces heavier than aluminum sprockets, because of pattern cut into them.

[tsorfas]

That's where I learned it, gaming against Koreans, I always assumed it was due to variations in pronunciation/alphabet differences. Never occurred to me that it could be simpler and just how they laugh.

That is actually true as well

Americans/English say Hahahaha
Spanish type jajajaja
Koreans say kekekeke
Germans do the American hahahahaha but also yayayaya
Greeks type xaxaxaxa
Swedish xixixixi

[tsorfas]

And used a little too much "teeth"...




But uses JUUUUUUST the right amout of "teeth"...






I have almost nothing to add to the chain discussion because it's stupid.



If you're at the absolute top of your racing game, and are fighting for miniscule fractions of a second... switch to a lighter chain and sprockets. Otherwise, leave it the hell alone.

What did you have on the 1000?

[CBR929RE]

Wirelessly posted

520 is the chain width. It's lighter and maybe stronger if ita a quality one.

Less rotating mad is a good thing.

520 is the pitch not the width

[RandyO]

520 is the pitch not the width

its both


the 5 in the 520 is the pitch, the 20 in 520 is the width

[breakdirt916]

to the bumper - don't buy a cheaper chain...I'm a cheapo and bought 2 of them...both of them stretched out and went to the trash after about 8-10k miles....oem lasted about double that

[OreoGaborio]

Less rotating mad is a good thing.

Man... I HATE rotating mad.