Electrical - GBM or Bettencourts?

[akira700]

So I have sorta thrown in the towel on my
diagnosing my electrical short. Could by my PC3 with
mis-routed wiring (insulation worn through) or a shorted relay or switch (neutral?) or somewhere in between.

I can make an appt at Greater Boston Motorsports or Bettencourts.
Which would you recommend? Please say though if you have actual exp.
with them, ok?

[daviid]

if you think its your pc3, why dont you just remove it

[Pittenger5]

The red wire from a PC3 goes to the negative on the battery. Ask me how I know.

[dhuze]

The red wire from a PC3 goes to the negative on the battery. Ask me how I know.

How do you know?


I was going to say the same thing as David. Just disconnect the PC and see if thats the problem.

[rg500]

If you take it to GBM ask for Chris Tupta to work on it. He is a great tech. I know nothing about Bettencourts.

[akira700]

thanks for suggestions.

I'd take out the PC3 if I knew with some degree of certainty
that it's be worth the effort. See with with my having to take care of my
daughter alot I don't have as much free time to pick at this issue
as much as I'd like to.

Prior to this last year I had the ignition switch over heat and
the solder melted and it stopped the headlights from working.
So its not certain that the PC3 is the issue. I just see that it was
installed with the wiring routed oddly (not by me) after my rear
end accident. It works (or did before this short appeared)

RG, Has Chris Tupta done electrical work for you?
Or is just someone you know.

[rg500]

Both.

He is a good friend of mine, but also a great mechanic that has worked on a bunch of my bikes, mostly when I have gotten in over my head, and troubleshooting. Which is usually electrical issues.

[ahtune69]

+2 chris knows his shit, I work on my own bikes but when I have a question or stuck with a problem he's the guy I look for.

[dhuze]

thanks for suggestions.

I'd take out the PC3 if I knew with some degree of certainty
that it's be worth the effort. ...............

You should only have to disconnect the wiring harness from the PC then connect the bike harness back together. You don't have to remove the whole thing. Just for a quick check to see if that may be the problem.

[Jim]

i had an issue with bettencourts service. my clutch cable snapped on me on my way home from leaving bettencourts. i actually had a new cable at home, and just didnt get to installing it yet. since i was stranded and needed to get home, i had a friend bring me the cable & i got the bike back to bettencourts.

the service guy was so rude to me. he made me feel like i was inconveniencing him, and he didn't want to bother replacing my cable. i was charged more for labor than the i was quoted, and he rushed me right out the door. i will never go to them again for service, but i do like their parts department a lot.

[jwm2k3]

I also know Chris Tupta at GBM. Rachael the service manager is super nice and also knows her shit. I think they could also pick it up from your house too, if the bike is not running....

[Manny]

Try Degsy if he is willing to get his hands into it....

[UngaWunga]

Prior to this last year I had the ignition switch over heat and
the solder melted and it stopped the headlights from working.
So its not certain that the PC3 is the issue. I just see that it was
installed with the wiring routed oddly (not by me) after my rear
end accident. It works (or did before this short appeared)

So you've put too much current through some wires and melted the solder/insulation off them? How did this happen?

There's a good chance you'll need to remove the cover from the whole wiring harness to see if you have a wire or three shorted together in the middle of the harness.

But the first step is to just disconnect the PC3.

[DuncanMoto]

Take the pcIII off first.

[Degsy]

Akira, it's fixed.

Bad ground in the blue multi-wire connector to the headlight relay (and probably an iffy relay now also). Looks like water got into the connector. That rubberised plastic shroud over it needs to be kept in place and the connector kept out of the elements if possible.

Anyway, all working now. I'll re-assemble the front end tomorrow (some strange epoxy/tape/plastic shims in the headlight area huh? LOL

[akira700]

Akira, it's fixed.

Bad ground in the blue multi-wire connector to the headlight relay (and probably an iffy relay now also). Looks like water got into the connector. That rubberised plastic shroud over it needs to be kept in place and the connector kept out of the elements if possible.

Anyway, all working now. I'll re-assemble the front end tomorrow (some strange epoxy/tape/plastic shims in the headlight area huh? LOL

Degs you rock! PM me the bill! And I'll be over as soon as I can.
Yeah about the front cowling its not the most solid piece of body work ! No zip ties holding it together though!
One of the screw anchors is about to fall right off. Need some ABS welding action on it.

[KillBill]

Akira, it's fixed.

Bad ground in the blue multi-wire connector to the headlight relay (and probably an iffy relay now also). Looks like water got into the connector. That rubberised plastic shroud over it needs to be kept in place and the connector kept out of the elements if possible.

Anyway, all working now. I'll re-assemble the front end tomorrow (some strange epoxy/tape/plastic shims in the headlight area huh? LOL

This is why I love this forum.
Great community and people ALWAYS willing to lend a hand.

[Degsy]

Degs you rock! PM me the bill! And I'll be over as soon as I can.
Yeah about the front cowling its not the most solid piece of body work ! No zip ties holding it together though!
One of the screw anchors is about to fall right off. Need some ABS welding action on it.

I will get it all back together for this afternoon. I will check with Bettencourt's to see if they have a headlight relay as I'm not confident it will stay working now it has been arcing. Also, I will epoxy that screw anchor so it will need to dry for a few hours.

Pick up tonight? I'll PM you.

[akira700]

I will get it all back together for this afternoon. I will check with Bettencourt's to see if they have a headlight relay as I'm not confident it will stay working now it has been arcing. Also, I will epoxy that screw anchor so it will need to dry for a few hours.

Pick up tonight? I'll PM you.

Man Degs, if you were a foxy woman I'd kiss you!
But your not so I wont !

I'd bet the relay is an item to order, not in stock.
Can't get it tonight.
Maybe not till Sat. unless you can do it late on Friday like after 10pm?

[Degsy]

Man Degs, if you were a foxy woman I'd kiss you!
But your not so I wont !

I'd bet the relay is an item to order, not in stock.
Can't get it tonight.
Maybe not till Sat. unless you can do it late on Friday like after 10pm?

Let's arrange pickup for this weekend. I'm probably teaching MSF (not 100% sure yet) so evening would be better.