The (not so) Great Gixxer Rebuild

[Jim]

NOTE: before the new racer was installed on the stem, the lower triple was cleaned thoroghly, then covered them in grease that looked like ecto-plasma

Hey Garage Guy, here's a picture just for you. This is what a REAL garage should look like. Built for normal height people, and full of gixxers (plus a 636)
Hope this garage picture is high res enough for your standards.

[seth399]

nice dude

[Jim]

new Vesrah front pads, new(er) Pilot Power front tire, rear SS brake lines & new fluid next week & I'm done with this bike

[The Snowman]

Hey Garage Guy, here's a picture just for you. This is what a REAL garage should look like. Built for normal height people, and full of gixxers (plus a 636)
Hope this garage picture is high res enough for your standards.

OK, THIS is the Degsy garage we all know and

[CEO]

Derek brought the lower triple w/ stem to a place to get the p;d racer broken off, since we couldnt get it to budge the night before.

Here's the lower triple w/ stem with the new racer

before the new racer was installed on the stem, the lower triple was cleaned thoroghly, then covered them in grease that looked like ecto-plasma

What's a bearing racer? Is this a new version of benchracing I haven't heard of?

[Jim]

What's a bearing racer? Is this a new version of benchracing I haven't heard of?

ya meant to type RACE, not RACER. good catch

[Jim]

just called RJ's. the bike wont be done till tomorrow, but got most of the tuning done. found the problem why the plugs were so nasty. said the PCIII wasnt turning on till the throttle was at 30%, which is a setting I didnt notice when I installed it. guess I really should have done more reading on it before I installed a used one I got off eBay

good news is he said it came out nicely, and will be ready for pickup tomorrow morning.

bad news is I have plans tomorrow night, so I wont be riding till Wednesday.

[TLRMan]

just called RJ's. the bike wont be done till tomorrow, but got most of the tuning done. found the problem why the plugs were so nasty. said the PCIII wasnt turning on till the throttle was at 30%, which is a setting I didnt notice when I installed it. guess I really should have done more reading on it before I installed a used one I got off eBay

good news is he said it came out nicely, and will be ready for pickup tomorrow morning.

bad news is I have plans tomorrow night, so I wont be riding till Wednesday.

Yup, you gotta sync the Throttle position sensor up with the PCIII...OOOps!

[Jim]

Yup, you gotta sync the Throttle position sensor up with the PCIII...OOOps!

ya, like i said. i bought this used off eBay. bike had some crazy map on it, that my bike wouldnt even stay on. when i installed it, i had to hold the throttle while sending a DynoJet map to the PCIII. once i mapped it, i never touched it again. probably should have looked at the settings a bit more, but that was my fault for rushing to install and ride.

[CEO]

Usually I think they match the throttle settings to the PCIII at about 12 different throttle positions... like 0 2 5 10 20 30 40 50 60 80 100 percent or something like that.

Should be good to go for the 9/29-30 track days when you're done.

Oh wait...

[Jim]

Usually I think they match the throttle settings to the PCIII at about 12 different throttle positions... like 0 2 5 10 20 30 40 50 60 80 100 percent or something like that.

well i guess i learned the hard way, but at least now I know.

Should be good to go for the 9/29-30 track days when you're done.

Oh wait...

seriously
i've had enough with the track comments from everyone

[CEO]

seriously
i've had enough with the track comments from everyone

Oh really, you've had enough Jim? Well in that case I'll stop. I am very sensitive to your feelings and wouldn't want to upset you, or say things that might vex or distress you.




Fuggin' pussy

[TLRMan]

Usually I think they match the throttle settings to the PCIII at about 12 different throttle positions... like 0 2 5 10 20 30 40 50 60 80 100 percent or something like that.

Should be good to go for the 9/29-30 track days when you're done.

Oh wait...

Naw it's just for closed and full throttle.
Sometimes you gotta peg the throttle for a milli second while the bike is running for it to latch to it...No biggie.

[CEO]

Naw it's just for closed and full throttle.

Really?

When I had mine mapped he tuned the a/f mixture at all rpms in 50rpm increments for around 10 or 12 different throttle positions....? That's why the PCIII has a wiretap to the TPS wire on the ECU, right?

Maybe I'm misunderstanding you

[TLRMan]

Really?

When I had mine mapped he tuned the a/f mixture at all rpms in 50rpm increments for around 10 or 12 different throttle positions....? That's why the PCIII has a wiretap to the TPS wire on the ECU, right?

Maybe I'm misunderstanding you

Yup, but the intitial setup requires the PCIII to know closed, and full throttle values 1st.

Once that is done, the tuning can take place at those rpm increments, and throttle positions.

[CEO]

Yup, but the intitial setup requires the PCIII to know closed, and full throttle values 1st.

Once that is done, the tuning can take place at those rpm increments, and throttle positions.

Ahhh I see. I think I remember him doing that now.

Mark you know everything

[TLRMan]

Ahhh I see. I think I remember him doing that now.

Mark you know everything

Not everything....but almost...

[Jim]

ok, so many of you have seen the RJ's thread with my results. But for those doubters, here's my dyno sheets

8/2/2008 @ Sea Coast's charity dyno run event. 94.49hp @ 118MPH in 4th gear


8/18/2008 @ RJ's. 95.82hp base, 103.91hp in 4th gear, 107.51hp in 6th gear @ 150MPH


Torque 42.90 base, 45.78 after tuning



very happy with the results, since I was hoping to break 100hp. Awesome work at RJ's and I would recommend them again to anyone looking for a PCIII tune.

[bigred875]

looks good...better to have a smooth powerband with a couple less hp then the other way aorund

[R1]

[Jim]

looks good...better to have a smooth powerband with a couple less hp then the other way aorund

i could care less about hp, it's fast enough for me. i just wanted something a bit more respectible like 100. but gaining 15hp on this run is amazing.

side note: i know everyone will say "different dyno, different results". I beleive the Sea Coast Dyno and RJ's Dyno are very close. I upgraded to Iridium plugs and cleaned my air filter before going to RJ's dyno, so that 2hp difference might explain why.

[BCT748]

Jim I am not going to be a douche to you for once, and only once.

If I were you I would be happy with the HP you have and work a little more on the TQ. I will take a little less HP just to have more TQ, maybe that's why I bought a Duc

Looks like you are making some decent progress with it. When are we going to have our "obnoxiously loud bike" competition?

[Jim]

Jim I am not going to be a douche to you for once, and only once.

If I were you I would be happy with the HP you have and work a little more on the TQ. I will take a little less HP just to have more TQ, maybe that's why I bought a Duc

Looks like you are making some decent progress with it. When are we going to have our "obnoxiously loud bike" competition?

well i was waiting for this dyno run before posting up my Sea Coast #'s specifically to avoid your ball busting. i'm happy with what i have now, and could care less about more power. i have new SS rear lines sitting on my table that need to go on. Got a new(er) front tire to put on when my front pads arrive too. Besides that, I'm done with mods on this bike, besides a brembo or gafler wave rotor set. the tuning here wasnt for hp gains, but to make the air/fuel ratios where they should be.

and surprisingly, my pipe is quieter now

[BCT748]

well i was waiting for this dyno run before posting up my Sea Coast #'s specifically to avoid your ball busting.

I wouldn't have busted your balls that bad. I thought you were pulling low to mid 80's the way you were bitching out about posting them.

i'm happy with what i have now, and could care less about more power. i have new SS rear lines sitting on my table that need to go on. Got a new(er) front tire to put on when my front pads arrive too. Besides that, I'm done with mods on this bike, besides a brembo or gafler wave rotor set. the tuning here wasnt for hp gains, but to make the air/fuel ratios where they should be.

Ya, having the bike run smooth would be better than just grabbing at some peak numbers. Since you are upgrading the brakes why not go with a Brembo MC?

and surprisingly, my pipe is quieter now

Sounds like a cop out to me. Don't puss out.....like you always do:

[GixerJockey]

I wouldn't have busted your balls that bad. I thought you were pulling low to mid 80's the way you were bitching out about posting them.



Ya, having the bike run smooth would be better than just grabbing at some peak numbers. Since you are upgrading the brakes why not go with a Brembo MC?



Sounds like a cop out to me. Don't puss out.....like you always do:

Did you notice that the thread was titled GIXXER REBUILD???

Beat it, base model Duc owner... :