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    Spring wake up fail

    So, I fired up my new to me triumph 675 after a long winter's nap. She fired right up, but idled a little rough. Then the CEL came on. If I try to ride it, it rev and go, but as soon as I let off the gas it dies.

    I suspect water in the gas, but would that throw a cel? Also, the tank is the biggest pain in my ass ever. Is there any reasonable way to get some fuel out of this thing?

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    Re: Spring wake up fail

    If you think it's water, is it worth a shot to try some drygas in it?
    If I remember reading some of your posts, didn't you do a fair amount of work to it recently? Is it possible you may have bumped a connection, or forgot to plug something back in?

    If it makes you feel any better, my Aprilia ran flawlessly today..I was pleasantly surprised

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    Re: Spring wake up fail

    I'd pull the fuel line and jump out the pump. Let the pump do the work.

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    Re: Spring wake up fail

    I have a cheap squeeze bulb primed syphon for draining tanks. $4 at Wally World.

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    Re: Spring wake up fail

    Quote Originally Posted by R7 View Post

    If it makes you feel any better, my Aprilia ran flawlessly today..I was pleasantly surprised

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    Re: Spring wake up fail

    Mine did the same thing after the winter with the CEL. Try to clear the code and see if that works

    Try this-

    Turn ignition on, Twist full throttle and turn kill switch it ON/OFF/ON/OFF/ON/OFF Just DO NOT hit the starter button anywhere in there.

    That should clear the code

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    Re: Spring wake up fail

    Did it not run right? Or just throw the CEL?

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    Re: Spring wake up fail

    This may sound silly but check for mice nests and shit in the airbox. That happened to a bike I had, it was running shitty but I could keep it running by maintaining throttle... turns out there was a mouse nest in the airbox.

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    Re: Spring wake up fail

    It had the cel and idled really poorly. I read somewhere that a CEL causes the daytona to work in "limp home mode".

    My buddy cleared the cel for me, it didn't come back and it runs well now

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    Re: Spring wake up fail

    OK, I'm thinking mouse nest as well. Thing thing is it's a sealed airbox with a cage over the intake. I still suspect the mice theory though becuase there was a towel on the bike that had been shredded up a little. Never found where that went...

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    Re: Spring wake up fail

    I also had a mouse nest in the air box of my MV Brutale...how the hell did they get in there???

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    Re: Spring wake up fail

    Pump gas already is 10% dry gas. Adding more won't help.

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    Re: Spring wake up fail

    Quote Originally Posted by jwm2k3 View Post
    I also had a mouse nest in the air box of my MV Brutale...how the hell did they get in there???
    This is what I found when I popped open the airbox on the SV 3 weeks ago.



    Someone got up thru the snorkel.

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    Re: Spring wake up fail

    Quote Originally Posted by stoinkythepig View Post
    Pump gas already is 10% dry gas. Adding more won't help.
    Er, where'd you come up with that number? If you're referring to the Ethanol content, it's the exact polar opposite in effect to dry gas. Ethanol sucks the water in and then helps it separate out so you've got pockets of H20 in your fuel, if not a nice layer of it on the bottom of your metal tank, rusting away.

    Dry gas is Iso Propyl Alcohol, it binds with the water, keeping it in solution so it can pass through your fuel system without impact, or freeze, etc.

    TLDR - Ethanolated fuels need drygas MORE than ethanol free fuel.

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    Re: Spring wake up fail

    CEL probably from a cyclinder misfire. No big deal... get that old gas out of there and see if it clears itself.

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    Re: Spring wake up fail

    I should say that the bogging and stuff with the mice nest getting caught in the airbox/filter also did cause the bike I mentioned to throw a CEL.

    So your description sounds EXACTLY like what happened to me. I vote mouse nest.

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    Re: Spring wake up fail

    Quote Originally Posted by Tas View Post
    This is what I found when I popped open the airbox on the SV 3 weeks ago.



    Someone got up thru the snorkel.
    Store it with mothballs stuffed near all the openings. Keeps the critters from going in there.

    Same thing with cars. Bag in the car, in the glove box, under the hood etc. Makes life much easier when they don't chew through wiring etc. ..

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    Re: Spring wake up fail

    if you're looking to easily get the gas out of your tank, this is your best friend: http://www.amazon.com/Safety-Siphon-...pr_product_top

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    Re: Spring wake up fail

    Yeah, Thanks Jim, I'm gonna grab one of those, but I'll check for rodents first!

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    Re: Spring wake up fail

    For the guys who have gotten rodents in the airbox, did this happen with storing the bike inside a garage? Reason I ask is I've always had my bikes stored in a garage when not in use (even during riding season) and I've never had rodents in my airbox. I usually plug up the exhaust ports with WD-40 soaked rags for peace of mind sake in the winter. Just curious to see if it's more common with storing the bike outside vs inside an attached garage.

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    Re: Spring wake up fail

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_E_D View Post
    Yeah, Thanks Jim, I'm gonna grab one of those, but I'll check for rodents first!
    if you're anywhere near Boston, you're welcome to borrow mine.

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    Re: Spring wake up fail

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim View Post
    if you're looking to easily get the gas out of your tank, this is your best friend: http://www.amazon.com/Safety-Siphon-...pr_product_top
    This is your $9 cheaper best friend for the same thing.

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    Just got one a couple weeks ago. Pretty slick little device.

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    Re: Spring wake up fail

    ya i got mine from the manufacturer directly and it was like $8. i just googled "jerk it gas siphon" , no joke.

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    Re: Spring wake up fail

    I've never had it happen to the bike in the garage, but it happens to my mower in the shed all the time. My friend who stores his bike for the winter in his shed, mouse nest.

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