Welcome to NESR! Most features of this site require registration, including replying to threads, sending private messages, starting new threads, and uploading files. Click here to register.

Results 1 to 18 of 18

Suggest a shop for machine work?

  1. #1
    Expert Novice "Dangerous" Dan K's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Lost in constant migration
    Posts
    3,718

    Suggest a shop for machine work?

    I'm exploring all my options for the top end of my KX125. If I decide to send it out, the only place suggested to me so far is cmmachine.com. They are @ $85 to machine the head. At that point I'm thinking I'd spend the extra $10-20 to just get a new one.

    If the bore needs attention it'd be $240 to rebore and replate. That seems reasonable.

    Wondering if any of you guys have had similar work done, and if there's a place you'd suggest.

    Worst case through cm machine I'm looking @ 465 for the head machined, the cylinder rebored and replated, piston, ring, and gaskets. Not too bad. It'd be nice to have a suggestion on a place some of you guys have sent stuff to though.

    The other thing is, they rebuild, hone, replate everything for $465. For $550+shipping I could just get all new stuff.

    0 Not allowed! Not allowed!

  2. #2
    Just Registered BMFR6's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Worcester, MA
    Age
    46
    Posts
    3,430

    Re: Suggest a shop for machine work?

    if Paul doesn't respond, I'd PM him. he will most likely have some places for you.

    0 Not allowed! Not allowed!
    LRRS EX #165 (formerly)

  3. #3
    Dictionary quoting knob stoinkythepig's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Location
    Raymond NH
    Age
    58
    Posts
    4,686

    Re: Suggest a shop for machine work?

    Only $85 more + shipping for all new? Seems like a no-brainer. Only thing I'd do is bring the online prices to a local dealer and ask them to match. They did for me when I needed 2 grand worth of new plastic.

    0 Not allowed! Not allowed!

  4. #4
    Expert Novice "Dangerous" Dan K's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Lost in constant migration
    Posts
    3,718

    Re: Suggest a shop for machine work?

    I'm thinking along the same lines... when I'm throwing out $500 anyway another $100 to go all new seems smart. Of course, if I can find another reccomended shop that will do the same work for less and still do a good job, it might become a more difficult decision. If Pail doesn't chime in soon I'll shoot him a PM.

    0 Not allowed! Not allowed!

  5. #5
    Posting Freak 6 Fingered Man's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Exeter NH
    Age
    42
    Posts
    974

    Re: Suggest a shop for machine work?

    If you get the cylinder bored you should have the head machined to match the new bore. I would have your curent head done rather than spend $100 on a head and have to have it machined any way. Unless you go with stock bore but why do that

    Just my opinion.

    0 Not allowed! Not allowed!

  6. #6
    Expert Novice "Dangerous" Dan K's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Lost in constant migration
    Posts
    3,718

    Re: Suggest a shop for machine work?

    Quote Originally Posted by 6 Fingered Man View Post
    If you get the cylinder bored you should have the head machined to match the new bore. I would have your curent head done rather than spend $100 on a head and have to have it machined any way. Unless you go with stock bore but why do that

    Just my opinion.
    If I go with boring it, I would. If I go all new I may keep the stock bore. Still undecided.

    0 Not allowed! Not allowed!

  7. #7
    Posting Freak 6 Fingered Man's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Exeter NH
    Age
    42
    Posts
    974

    Re: Suggest a shop for machine work?

    whats the cost difference form new standard bore to new big bore? Seems like it should be close, same parts just larger.

    0 Not allowed! Not allowed!

  8. #8
    Expert Novice "Dangerous" Dan K's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Lost in constant migration
    Posts
    3,718

    Re: Suggest a shop for machine work?

    New big bore is 600-700 depending on which I go with.

    0 Not allowed! Not allowed!

  9. #9
    Posting Freak 6 Fingered Man's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Exeter NH
    Age
    42
    Posts
    974

    Re: Suggest a shop for machine work?


    0 Not allowed! Not allowed!

  10. #10
    KB KB's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2002
    Location
    Manchester NH
    Age
    52
    Posts
    8,171

    Re: Suggest a shop for machine work?

    Why do you need the head machined? Is it warped or just pitted from the pieces of the piston?

    I would instead of boring and replating consider a sleeve. It's usually half the price of plating. And if you smoke another piston you can have it bored for around 100 bucks.

    Plating is used because there is no sleeve just an aluminum hole that is roughly the bore size and instead of a cast iron sleeve they plate the aluminum with Nikasil.

    KB

    0 Not allowed! Not allowed!
    LRRS/CCS EX #13

    GMD COMPUTRACK

  11. #11
    Expert Novice "Dangerous" Dan K's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Lost in constant migration
    Posts
    3,718

    Re: Suggest a shop for machine work?

    I actually don't need the head machined, it turns out. Should have updated this thread too, whoops. The head was just pitted from pieces of the piston or detonation or whatever, but my local shop said that a simple cleaning up (as in sand/file/whatever, not solvent) and use it. The cylinder passed their inspection with flying colors, and was deemed to be in "surprisingly good shape". got a top end kit on the way, and should be good for reassembly soon.

    0 Not allowed! Not allowed!

  12. #12
    Lifer richw's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Location
    Baltic,CT
    Age
    76
    Posts
    4,482

    Re: Suggest a shop for machine work?

    First sand the polish the cumbustion area make it shine. Leave a spark plug in to protect threads.

    Get a pc of double thick glass

    Get wet sandpaper 220 Grit up on the glass this is a flat surface

    Wet sand head surface in a figure 8 motion rotating the head 90
    degrees every few motions. Use just finger tip pressure near the center Try not to push it so edges dig in

    Look at it and when all the surface is being cut by the sandpaper you are done. First you will usually see "high spots" near the bolt holes.

    Wash 3 times in hot water make sure all grit and sandings are removed.

    0 Not allowed! Not allowed!
    Glen Beck is John the Baptist

  13. #13
    Expert Novice "Dangerous" Dan K's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Lost in constant migration
    Posts
    3,718

    Re: Suggest a shop for machine work?

    Quote Originally Posted by richw View Post
    First sand the polish the cumbustion area make it shine. Leave a spark plug in to protect threads.

    Get a pc of double thick glass

    Get wet sandpaper 220 Grit up on the glass this is a flat surface

    Wet sand head surface in a figure 8 motion rotating the head 90
    degrees every few motions. Use just finger tip pressure near the center Try not to push it so edges dig in

    Look at it and when all the surface is being cut by the sandpaper you are done. First you will usually see "high spots" near the bolt holes.

    Wash 3 times in hot water make sure all grit and sandings are removed.
    Thanks for the reply. Timely, considering I plan on doing it this weekend. Sweet.

    I’m a bit confused though, what is the glass for? Am I wrapping it in sandpaper so that it’s my “sanding block” so to speak? Unless I’m picturing this wrong, wouldn’t that only put paper pressure on the 4 corners of the glass, since the head is domed?

    I’m all about heeding some advice on the best way to sand down that head, just want to fully understand how I’m being told to do it.

    0 Not allowed! Not allowed!

  14. #14
    Soul Rider Paul_E_D's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    western, MA
    Age
    53
    Posts
    15,022

    Re: Suggest a shop for machine work?

    The glass is just to sand the mating surface flat. Sanding the dome itself by hand just requires patience. It's a little sketchy to do this because you will be changing the volume and shape in an uncontrolled way, but if you just go easy and take down the bumps you'll be fine. Don't try to sand the pits entirely away. Then you will have really altered things.

    0 Not allowed! Not allowed!
    Paul_E_D


  15. #15
    Expert Novice "Dangerous" Dan K's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Lost in constant migration
    Posts
    3,718

    Re: Suggest a shop for machine work?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_E_D View Post
    The glass is just to sand the mating surface flat. Sanding the dome itself by hand just requires patience. It's a little sketchy to do this because you will be changing the volume and shape in an uncontrolled way, but if you just go easy and take down the bumps you'll be fine. Don't try to sand the pits entirely away. Then you will have really altered things.
    Ah... now I gotcha, thanks. There's only one bump, the rest is all pitting. From what my local shop told me the pits are no big deal, just sand the one protruding burr off and I should be good to go.

    Do I want to sand the mating surface even if it's smooth? I figured after a good solvent cleaning it'd be set to go.

    0 Not allowed! Not allowed!

  16. #16
    Soul Rider Paul_E_D's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    western, MA
    Age
    53
    Posts
    15,022

    Re: Suggest a shop for machine work?

    Yeah, you overheated the bike. Just do it.

    0 Not allowed! Not allowed!
    Paul_E_D


  17. #17
    Expert Novice "Dangerous" Dan K's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Lost in constant migration
    Posts
    3,718

    Re: Suggest a shop for machine work?

    Thanks. Will do.

    0 Not allowed! Not allowed!

  18. #18
    Expert Novice "Dangerous" Dan K's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Lost in constant migration
    Posts
    3,718

    Re: Suggest a shop for machine work?

    Got her fired up today... runs better than it has in as long as I've owned it. Thanks for the help.

    0 Not allowed! Not allowed!

Similar Threads

  1. Local Machine Shop?
    By McBiggity in forum General Bike Related
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: 03-27-07, 02:28 PM
  2. Machine shop in RI or SE MA
    By Zero in forum General Bike Related
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 03-01-04, 10:51 PM
  3. Machine Shop?
    By Zero in forum General Bike Related
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 12-05-03, 08:36 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •