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LRRS ROUND 3 NOV 510 Collar Bone Mishap

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    LRRS ROUND 3 NOV 510 Collar Bone Mishap

    I was very excited to leave for the 92nd Classic because this would be my very first time both attending and participating in the vent. We packed and left early Thursday to join the racer practice to get some more seat time on the bikes and scrub in nw race rubber. Luckily we were running late and found out that practice didn’t start until 2PM so there was ample amount of time to set up our infield area. Over the two rounds we figured out that 4 canopies, 3 chairs, 2 tables and 1 fridge was the perfect numbers to have a good pit area. After setup was finished we got ready for practice.


    Making the infield a home away from home.

    The first session out I can already feel my brakes being cooked and cooked some more. There absolutely no power or bite left in them especially for my braking before T3. I rolled back into the pits and made my way towards S&C to which they recommend me some performance friction pads as I wanted a good initial bite but a progressive feel for trail braking. Glad I did cause the pads worked very well with my setup. For the remainder of practice I just tried new brake markers, different gears for different part of the track and tried to stay a steady pace for the two races the next day.


    The office was tough today with braking problems.

    Friday Race:

    Rain was forecast that evening but I didn’t think much of it but in retrospect we should’ve moved all our gear and lowered the canopies. I woke up to a flooded pit area where water was everywhere. One hour of cleanup and drying out meant missing morning practice – no biggie considering I had ample time the day before. I wondered the track watching others practice and jotting mental notes until it was my turn to race.

    Formula 1:

    As usual my nerves were building as I sat on pre-grid – maybe I should’ve gone out for practice that morning I thought to myself. The new lights went on and I will say after trial and error I think they nailed this on the head! I didn’t have the best of starts as I got ate up by everyone behind me, gridded 1C, something to work on. I made so many costly mistakes such as nearly hitting the wall coming out of 2 and forgetting my brake markers saw me finish 9th after the first lap. My poor performance saw me finish 10th by lap 2, I was in dire territories. I managed a close last round laptime of 1:27.990 before someone binned it and a restart was in order.

    I thought to myself ‘Fuck you cant mess up this time again’ so i put my head down as we gridded back up on the line. As the 3 board turn to the number 2 everyone put their bike into gear and their heads down myself included. As soon as the 2nd or 3rd light came on someone on my row jumped the start and had no choice but to keep going. I stayed put wondering if anyone would follow in tow but the lights went out and off I went. 3rd position into T1 and held that into the back straight. Front runner ran on as I put on the brakes but still they weren’t providing the stopping I needed as I lose two positions on the inside as we make the run up the hill.

    What happened next was almost instant. I shift into 3rd before I put on the brakes to tip it into 6, my line wide and arcing. It was near the apex I noticed in my peripheral a bike coming in tight and fast. This was it – I knew we were going to touch but when? Boom. His front end touched my rear hard enough I was forced to pick it up and rub wide. Our momentum carried us off track where another touch took place. I thought I could save it in the gravel but the front skidded and slid, making the bike catapult me over the bars. This is probably what flying feels like – well right before I face smashed into the gravel, my collarbone breaking instantly.

    Video of the crash:
    https://youtu.be/ASW4QUukC84

    The impact tossed me onto my right side as I grabbed both my collarbone and left ankle. The corner worker ran to my aid where I informed him of my situation and asked him to pull off my helmet. With the sun beaming on my face I knew my weekend was over.

    A trip to the ER revealed indeed a broken collarbone and bruised ligaments in my left ankle. A sling, soft cast, painkillers and some rest was what the doctor ordered. This is my first injury ever of this type so I am not familiar with the healing process but I can’t wait to start training again and making it back as soon as possible.


    These weren’t the kind of bands I wanted to rock last weekend.


    The difference in my right vs left cb area was apparent.


    What else can ya do?


    Looks better in photos.

    I want to thank all corner workers for what they do and continue to do as well as the medical team on track! Without you and what you do we couldn’t do what we love to do!


    Until next time!

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    Re: LRRS ROUND 3 NOV 510 Collar Bone Mishap

    Ian told me about your crash. Sucks man. Hopefully you get out of the novice class soon. Some of their lines are scary.

    The PF pads rock. I've been using them since I started track days. I just installed the 13 compound Saturday on my GSXR. Once they break in, they're awesome.

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    Re: LRRS ROUND 3 NOV 510 Collar Bone Mishap

    Heal up quick.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim View Post
    Ian told me about your crash. Sucks man. Hopefully you get out of the novice class soon. Some of their lines are scary.

    The PF pads rock. I've been using them since I started track days. I just installed the 13 compound Saturday on my GSXR. Once they break in, they're awesome.
    To the point Eric had to say something at the rider's meeting... SMH

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    Re: LRRS ROUND 3 NOV 510 Collar Bone Mishap

    Ah man, heal up quick! I'm hearing of too many breaking collar bones this season...

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    Re: LRRS ROUND 3 NOV 510 Collar Bone Mishap

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim View Post
    Ian told me about your crash. Sucks man. Hopefully you get out of the novice class soon. Some of their lines are scary.

    The PF pads rock. I've been using them since I started track days. I just installed the 13 compound Saturday on my GSXR. Once they break in, they're awesome.
    some of the lines in NOV class are hairy indeed - unfortunate that a teammate of mine ended his race short on saturday due to an incident of slow racer meets faster racer.

    i think sc had the carbon metallic .10 compounds which arent bad - much better than the hh sintered i had in there for sure

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    Heal up quick.



    To the point Eric had to say something at the rider's meeting... SMH
    thank you!

    Quote Originally Posted by rolker View Post
    Ah man, heal up quick! I'm hearing of too many breaking collar bones this season...
    it is indeed unsettling they filet my suit to get me out of it - ahhhhh

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    Re: LRRS ROUND 3 NOV 510 Collar Bone Mishap

    I liked your first race report better, heal up - we need MSG racing in the paddock.

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    Re: LRRS ROUND 3 NOV 510 Collar Bone Mishap

    Oh man.... Judging from that pic above, I hereby declare that your name is no longer Hung Phan.... you are now to known as Hanging Shoulder.

    That sucks, dude. Heal up soon!

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    Re: LRRS ROUND 3 NOV 510 Collar Bone Mishap

    Quote Originally Posted by cdovego View Post
    I liked your first race report better, heal up - we need MSG racing in the paddock.
    Haha there will be 2/3rd at the July round! But we all know we need the G!

    Quote Originally Posted by OreoGaborio View Post
    Oh man.... Judging from that pic above, I hereby declare that you are no longer Hung Phan.... you are now Hanging Shoulder.

    That sucks, dude. Heal up soon!
    Lmao. Thanks man!

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    Re: LRRS ROUND 3 NOV 510 Collar Bone Mishap

    Damn...that sucks! Heal up quick dude!!

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    Re: LRRS ROUND 3 NOV 510 Collar Bone Mishap

    They're gonna have to rename this event the Collarbone Classic.

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    Re: LRRS ROUND 3 NOV 510 Collar Bone Mishap

    I feel your pain, quite literally. You'll be back soon!

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    Re: LRRS ROUND 3 NOV 510 Collar Bone Mishap

    Quote Originally Posted by csmutty View Post
    Damn...that sucks! Heal up quick dude!!
    can i have some pie now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul_E_D View Post
    They're gonna have to rename this event the Collarbone Classic.
    at the rate its going

    Quote Originally Posted by carsick View Post
    I feel your pain, quite literally. You'll be back soon!
    im trying to come back for the aug round but it def threw a wrench into my plans for finishing all the rounds on my first go out

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    Re: LRRS ROUND 3 NOV 510 Collar Bone Mishap

    I don't know you, but I hope you heal soon man. Very unfortunate to be shut out due to circumstances outside your control.

    Whenever I hear of collar bone fractures, I always wonder if a Leatt or one of the newer airvests would have helped. I have no idea though.

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    Re: LRRS ROUND 3 NOV 510 Collar Bone Mishap

    Quote Originally Posted by xxaarraa View Post
    Whenever I hear of collar bone fractures, I always wonder if a Leatt or one of the newer airvests would have helped. I have no idea though.
    I believe Leatt are supposed to protect more against spine compression resulting in your shoulders/collarbone taking a bigger brunt of the impact... so more fractures if you land in a way that the head/spine is compressed.

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    Re: LRRS ROUND 3 NOV 510 Collar Bone Mishap

    Correct, the Leatt system transfers load from your neck into your shoulders. They try to direct as much as possible into the muscle, avoiding your collar bone but there is only so much you can do before 'bottoming out' on the clavicle. See my crash from last year, no Leatt and my collar bone likely would have been fine but I doubt my neck would have been from that side loading... :shudder:

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    Re: LRRS ROUND 3 NOV 510 Collar Bone Mishap

    I don't think any two offs are the same. Too many variables to start second guessing what one type of gear would or would not have done.

    Although I wear a Leatt. Worth the cost in my book.

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    Re: LRRS ROUND 3 NOV 510 Collar Bone Mishap

    Quote Originally Posted by xxaarraa View Post
    I don't know you, but I hope you heal soon man. Very unfortunate to be shut out due to circumstances outside your control.

    Whenever I hear of collar bone fractures, I always wonder if a Leatt or one of the newer airvests would have helped. I have no idea though.
    thanks man!

    Quote Originally Posted by isaac_ View Post
    I believe Leatt are supposed to protect more against spine compression resulting in your shoulders/collarbone taking a bigger brunt of the impact... so more fractures if you land in a way that the head/spine is compressed.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kurlon View Post
    Correct, the Leatt system transfers load from your neck into your shoulders. They try to direct as much as possible into the muscle, avoiding your collar bone but there is only so much you can do before 'bottoming out' on the clavicle. See my crash from last year, no Leatt and my collar bone likely would have been fine but I doubt my neck would have been from that side loading... :shudder:
    Quote Originally Posted by nhbubba View Post
    I don't think any two offs are the same. Too many variables to start second guessing what one type of gear would or would not have done.

    Although I wear a Leatt. Worth the cost in my book.
    the way i crashed, pretty much face dive into the gravel, at the bowl got me thinking bout an airvest suit or a leatt system, although i was under the impression the leatts are more of spinal than of collar area. either way i need a new suit/lid

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    Re: LRRS ROUND 3 NOV 510 Collar Bone Mishap

    Quote Originally Posted by nhbubba View Post
    I don't think any two offs are the same. Too many variables to start second guessing what one type of gear would or would not have done.

    Although I wear a Leatt. Worth the cost in my book.
    Well put. 2 riders with the same airbag vest or Leatt system could crash the same way but have different injuries. There's SO MANY variables. I use a Spidi Air Bag vest for track riding and I love it. Haven't deployed it yet. Fingers crossed.

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    Re: LRRS ROUND 3 NOV 510 Collar Bone Mishap

    injury update - actually broke my clavicle in multiple places. going back monday to see if surgery or sling will be the best decision.
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    I'm no doctor but, FUCK! I'd want screws and plates to make sure it goes back together in proper alignment.

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    Re: LRRS ROUND 3 NOV 510 Collar Bone Mishap

    Quote Originally Posted by sedanman View Post
    I'm no doctor but, FUCK! I'd want screws and plates to make sure it goes back together in proper alignment.
    Surgery is def on the table cause I don't want a drooping shoulder! This off is getting to be more painful than the actual pain! 😐😬

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    How are you going to eat with chopsticks now!?! :-(

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